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WaterLink
06/21/22 11:34:24 AM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Group Leader
Damn. If there's one person I wish I remembered to include, it's the group leader from Jesse's therapy sessions. This guy has quite a sad backstory of his own. He ran over his own daughter when he was drunk and killed her. But he worked hard to get to get better and now where he is today is helping others. He's compassionate, even if by the book, and he's straight and to the point. But even he can't overlook Jesse selling meth to other addicts, and that's the last we see of him in the series. Damn good character. Ranking: top 25

For some reason when I was reading this I thought "didn't he use again at one of the meetings?" but then I remembered that was a Bojack Horseman subplot, who Aaron Paul was a voice actor on coincidentally

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Cocytus
06/21/22 11:38:09 AM
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Did Skinny Pete's uncle get mentioned yet?
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TheOnionKnight
06/21/22 11:44:33 AM
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Kinda weird to me that Ted and Lydia are last place. They may not be the best characters on the show, but they're at least memorable. I don't even recognize the names of some of the other characters on the list, and the little summaries don't help me remember either.

Maybe I should watch the show again if my memory is apparently this bad. =/

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ViewtifulJoe
06/21/22 12:01:30 PM
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Walt > Hank > Saul > Gus > Jesse > Skyler > Mike > Tuco > Marie > Todd

Contemplated moving Saul down a little and Skyler up a little. Haven't watched in a few years.

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Relient_K
06/21/22 12:09:44 PM
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Basically all the main characters left. My favorites are probably Mike, Saul, Hank, and Gus, in that order.

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Crayon_Lover
06/21/22 1:58:22 PM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
Kinda weird to me that Ted and Lydia are last place. They may not be the best characters on the show, but they're at least memorable. I don't even recognize the names of some of the other characters on the list, and the little summaries don't help me remember either.

Maybe I should watch the show again if my memory is apparently this bad. =/
I just rewatched it a couple months ago and still don't know some of them so don't feel bad lol

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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 2:30:25 PM
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#10 Donald Margolis
Donald Margolis is the most heartbreaking and tragic man in Breaking Bad.

Part of what makes Don such a wonderful character is how simple he is. Hes not secretly a meth kingpin, hes not with the DEA and hes not in with the cartel. Hes not a ruthless drug dealer or a vicious murderer. Hes an air traffic controller who happens to be a father. And thats all there is to know about him. Addiction is a terrible, terrible disease. Its even worse when a loved one has it, and we all do the best we can to deal with it. Don does the best he can to help his daughter with it. Theres something reassuringly beautiful, sincere, and real about his plight. This isnt a man who is torn apart by pride and jealousy over his lot in life. This isnt a man who ruthlessly and selfishly craves revenge on someone. He just wants to help and understand his daughter.

The other part that makes Don a wonderful character is, John de Lancies acting in this role is fantastic. I empathize with Don so much. You can just feel his heart snap when he sees Jane get stretchered away. You can see how much he loves her when he talks about her to Walt. You dont need any other characters to point out what a compassionate father and a decent human being he is because its reflected in John de Lancies acting.

Then of course, because hes a compassionate father and a decent human being, he gives Jane another chance. He finds out that he relapsed, and hes angry and hes frustrated because any father would be but he gives her another chance.

How could he have known what we know about Walter White?

How could he have known that very same man he opened up to in the bar is toxic and dangerous to every single person he crosses paths with? There was absolutely no way he could have known that. Now, he could have had the insight to see that Jane is in a bad place and I need to be stern. But spotting these things are always, always easier said than done. Calling the police on your own child is not a very easy thing to do.

Walts actions affect innocent and undeserving people, too, and Don is one of the earliest examples of that. He lets Jane choke to death, and Donald makes a mistake at work, and the airplanes collide together over the top of his house. The fate of Donald Margolis is one of the few mysteries left in the world of Breaking Bad. The last we hear about him is that he attempts suicide and is rushed to the hospital, but hes never mentioned ever again after this. Id like to find out, even if the truth is as realistically gut-wrenching as Donald himself.
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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 2:30:45 PM
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#9 Skyler White
In her words, this ones gonna be a doozy, so hold onto your hats.

I put Skyler in the top ten. Eat me.

Is Skyler likeable? No, she isnt. But Im not so sure shes supposed to be.

Do I understand Skyler Whites character traits and motivations? Id at least like to think so

Is Skyler well-written? Ehh, you knowsometimes

Lets start at the very, very beginning.

In season 1, I strongly, strongly disliked Skyler. Early on, Anna Gunn portrayed her as an out-of-touch, cringy soccer mom and this characterization was just awful. Every other line that came out of her mouth just made me want to slap myself in the face. She wasnt remotely likable. I think the writers also realized that it was terrible, because these traits quickly disappeared and by like, the middle of the second season when she starts to suspect Walt is up to no good, she was almost a completely different character.

The truth is, Skyler is just as muddled morally as her husband. Because you know what? She likes being a criminal. Shell cook Teds books, shell come up with convoluted, fake stories about gambling to cover her ass. Shell launder her drug kingpin husbands money and shell enjoy doing it. The only difference between her and Walt is that she doesn't get her own hands dirty. The only things she ever murders in the entire show are Holly's lungs. But she's an accomplice in everything Walt does, which makes her almost just as bad as he is.

Until it hits her that Walt has taken it too far.

Then Skyler spends most of the last season guilty and depressed, smoking like a chimney in oversized, baggy clothes, usually quietly laying around the dark, dark house. This shift in her character is quite abrupt and difficult to register. It doesn't help us sympathize with her that even Skyler herself doesn't seem to know why she went along with Walt in the first place, telling Walt Jr later that she'll be asking herself why for the rest of her life. She tells Walt that shes waiting for his cancer to come back because thats the only way out. But after her brother in law finds everything out, she sniffs out Hank's insincerity and decides to stay loyal to Walt. Because she realizes that Hank only cares about bringing down Walt at any cost, and not about her or the family. Probably the wrong decision, but Skyler is just as bad at making decisions as her husband.

In the end, Skyler gets off pretty good. Sure, shes gotten hit hard by the RICO act and is living in a tiny apartment, still smoking her lungs off and clearly very depressed. But shes alive, not in prison (which, honestly, she definitely deserved, I'll get to that in a minute) and she still has her children and her sister, being extremely good-natured, still wants a relationship with her. Ive heard someone say once that every character in this show gets what they deserve. So much disagree with that. Don should still be alive and should still have his job and daughter. Skyler, being a piece of shit criminal, should be behind bars with her husband. Hank shouldve lost his badge and probably never be a cop again for beating up Jesse just because he needed to blow off some steam. Walt Jr shouldve got to live with Hank and Marie.

Fuck is she a hard one to peg down.

Theres a good reason everyone talks about whether or not they like Skyler. She is incredibly polarizing. But I only came to appreciate her when I realized that, yes Skyler is an unlikeable, hypocritical criminal, but being an unlikeable, hypocritical criminal is what makes her a damn good character. Skyler is smart, man. She's a sharp, sharp woman. She can sniff out her husband's bullshit like no other can. Shes crafty, conniving, shrewd and clever. She can act her way into and out of some bad predicaments. She's just as good at lying and manipulating people as her husband is. She loves and cares about her family, but isn't nearly as good at protecting them as she'd like to convince herself that she is.

And no I don't sympathize with Skyler. Not one single bit. Fuck Skyler and Skyler deserves to be in prison. If she did the right thing when she first found out what Walt was doing, she could have done a lot of good and saved a lot of lives. But just like her husband, Skyler truly doesn't care about anyone except for herself and her family. Because Skyler is incredibly id-driven. Ill get back with my drug dealer husband and become his accomplice because it makes me feel good. Ill smoke this cigarette while pregnant because itll make me feel better. She was okay with suggesting Walt off Jesse because, again, Skyler doesnt really care that much about anyone outside of her family.

Skyler is a bad human being, complex and muddled, who continues to amaze and fascinate me. There's so much to unpack with her and there's so much to think about. Everything a good and just person should do, she doesnt do. Everything a great character should do, she does.
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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 6:08:26 PM
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#8 Tuco Salamanca
Enter the most unstable and unpredictable character in the entire Breaking Bad universe.

Its his intensity, unpredictability, and his insanity that makes Tuco Salamanca so compelling to watch. From the moment he first appears, you get one look into his eyes and you automatically register that Tuco is someone to be dreaded. Theres an uneasiness when Walt and Jesse are working with him, as if you just know at some point hes going to completely snap. And then he beats No-Doze to death, before pleading and begging with Walt to save his life in a remorsefully disturbing scene. Like yes, Tuco has loved ones and people he cares about, but he has no freaking regard when it comes to his own anger.

Tuco will get really quiet at times, speaking in almost a hushed, sinister tone. Then hell explode with angry and you dont want to make Tuco angry. See, if Chuck McGill is lawful evil, and Gus Fring is neutral evil, then Tuco is pure, 100% chaotic evil. Grilled still holds up as one of the best episodes in Breaking Bads history. Youd believe that Tuco would beat his own henchman to death and then beg for his life to be saved. Youd believe that Tuco would stalk Walt and Jesse, before kidnapping them out into his cabin. Youd have believed that Tuco wouldve shot Jesse dead or won that shootout with Hank. You believe that this man is a violent, murderous, resilient psychopath who it will take nothing short of a train (or a very well-aimed bullet to the head) to stop.

Tuco is the perfect early antagonist for Walter White. Its intelligence and science versus pure anger, violence and chaos. Walt certainly cant outmuscle Tuco, and he can barely be reasoned with, even if youre Saul Goodman. But Tuco isnt the brightest bulb in the closet, and he can be outsmarted. When outsmarting him doesn't work, throw a rock at his head and shoot in him in the stomach. That'll at least make him blink. Tuco has the resources and the capital to help Walt provide for his family, but Walt has to control him and keep him calm first. Season 5B Walt probably would have hired Tuco as a hitman the same way that Walt hired the neo-nazis. But season 2 Walt is just left bewildered and disgusted.

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WaterLink
06/21/22 6:41:48 PM
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Tuco is what really got me into the series. The whole Krazy 8 saga honestly wasn't that great imo, even though it was early and the show was just getting its feet wet, I almost put the show down when I first watched it but when Tuco came into the fold is when I first got really hooked. Like I got anxiety and stuff watching him through the screen because he was so unhinged and unpredictable. Great villain, a shame he was killed off so early but maybe it was for the best

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Derwood
06/21/22 6:52:18 PM
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If you hate Skyler, it says a lot about you.
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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 8:59:08 PM
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#6 Hank Schrader

Hank, Hank, how do you even describe Hank? Hes an extraordinarily competent detective, with fantastic deduction skills that somehow almost seem superhuman. His deduction skills almost seem unbelievable and unrealistic at times. This man, using nothing but his wits, uncovers the identities of the two biggest drug kingpins in the American Southwest. Hes one of the few men to stand face-to-face with Tuco Salamanca, Leonel, and Marco Salamanca and live to tell the tale. Hank is a badass who also happens to be funny and loveable. I enjoy seeing him geek out over his new collection of minerals just as Im excited to see him in a firefight. Im entertained by seeing him banter with Gomie at work just as I enjoy seeing him spend time with Walt Jr.

Now, Hank is far from perfect. But in his defense, he seems more self-aware of his flaws and shortcomings than most people are. He stops short of calling Jesse and apologizing for that ridiculous beating he gave him, but he does express sentiment that it wasnt the right thing to do. He doesnt seem to have much empathy for addicts in general, treating them condescendingly whenever he meets them. He can be proud, and in some ways his pride is what leads to his downfall. Hes the closest thing this show comes to having a hero an extremely flawed and unscrupulous hero, but the only one we have who is actively trying to do something that resembles the right thing.

Number six was the hardest cut to make, by far. Its because theres only Walt, Jesse, Hank, Gus, Mike and Saul left. All are fantastic, and someone has to go. Dont take this to mean that I dont think Hank is great. But I had to let go of somebody. Hank falls not because of his own merits, but because of the merits of other characters. Ill explain more about this in the next entry.

#7 Todd Alquist

Oh, Toddwhat a delightful, terrifying young man.

Todd Alquist is a late arrival into the series. We first meet Todd in the final season, where hes working for a pest control company that also robs its clients. Todd is a young upstart criminal, eager to learn and more than ready to get his feet wet. Walt, being a natural teacher at heart, picks up on this right away and takes this little demon under his devils wing.

Todd made it this far because his moral compass is complex and fascinating in a way that I never envisioned before and still have trouble wrapping my head around. Todd will chain you up in his basement and make you his meth slave, but treat you to ice cream for a job well-done. Hes polite, mild-mannered, and unsettlingly childlike, but foresees no problem in murdering children. He will shoot an innocent woman in the head, but apologize for it first as if what hes about to do is a mild inconvenience for her. Todd is like if Flynn were raised by neo-nazis. I cant call him ill-intended because I dont know if he realizes what hes doing is wrong. His entire character is like a walking uncanny valley. Todd almost looks, talks, and behaves like your normal average joe, but theres something there thats unsettling and creepy about him.

I wasnt quite certain who to put first, Todd or Tuco. Tuco has better highs (no pun intended), and I much prefer Grilled to El Camino. Todd has the fascinating moral complexities and unsettling creepiness that make him a marginally better character in my eyes. But if you think Im wrong and should flip them, theres a very good argument for that.

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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 11:00:25 PM
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#5 Saul Goodman
Saul is ahead of Hank because of Bob Odenkirks ability to enhance everything he touches. Every scene that has Saul Goodman in it is more fun to watch. Because Saul doesnt have his own storylines in this show, hes able to support and enhance the other characters. Every character Saul meets is enhanced. He offers rare insight into the mind and inner-workings of Walter White in many meetings that resemble psychotherapy sessions. He has great scenes with Hank. He has great scenes with Jesse. He has awesome chemistry with Mike. Even Skyler has some of her best and most memorable moments when shes interacting with Saul.

Also, Hank is competent in a way that feels unbelievable at times. Hes always piecing together evidence and sniffing out criminals, putting one foot in front of another and never backtracking, never second guessing, never making mistakes. Saul Goodmans competence seems a lot more realistic. Sure, Saul is well-connected and can talk Walt and Jesse out of just about any situation the protagonists find themselves in. But Saul has limits, and by season 5B, hes clearly done with Walts crumbling empire. Hanks death and Flynns phone call to the police is the tipping point. Saul sees the writing on the wall, packs up and extracts himself before he can be arrested.

And Saul is just so entertaining by himself. Funniest character on the show. Hes loyal, endearing, and charismatic. Who doesnt love Saul Goodman?

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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 11:06:58 PM
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Here we are. The holy grail of Breaking Bad characters. You could put any of these four as number one and youd be able to make a fair and convincing argument.

#4 Mike Ehrmantraut
Never underestimate an old guy in a game where men tend to die young.

Mike brings his trademark stoicness, professionalism, and hyper-competence to bring the world its coolest character and one of its most likable. Hes just an old badass who has been in the game long enough to have seen it all, done it all. Hes very good at what he does. Not much scares or intimidates him anymore. Even seeing poor Victors throat slashed before his eyes merely brings him to a startled stare. This is the story of Walt and Jesses rise from low-level dealers to revered drug lords. Mike is the main character who has decades of harrowing, soul-breaking experiences in his past and whose story is already almost over. Hes now just looking to secure some money for his granddaughter before retiring off into the sunset.

Talk about a stark contrast to Walt, right? Hey, here you go. Heres a guy who actually wants to provide for his family. Mikes no saint, but the fact that his motivations are actually not selfish make him easier to like. He has a moral code that he carries to his grave he refuses to hurt innocent civilians, and while hes a cold-blooded murderer, he prefers a simple bullet to the head over cruelty and grotesque violence. He eventually grows a soft spot for Jesse and they have a unique friendship. And hes just so cool. Theres no other way to put it. He can be sitting in his car with a pair of binoculars and a pimento sandwich, and hes still just the coolest old guy imaginable.

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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 11:12:51 PM
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#3 Gustavo Fring
When I was writing this list, in the back of my mind I asked myself who could you not possibly have Breaking Bad without, and who could you leave out? You can leave out Saul or Mike. Itd be a lot less fun without them but theyre not integral to the story. You could even leave out Hank. Sure, Hanks death is the catalyst that finally breaks Skyler and Walt Jr and leads to Walt on the lamb. But there are surely other ways they could write that.

The more I think about it, you cannot leave out Gus Fring. Because Gus Fring is integral to the evolution of Walter White.

We are first introduced to Gustavo Fring as a man who, similarly to Walter White, is living a double life as a criminal, hiding in plain sight. But then and there, is where the similarities completely and emphatically end. Gus is very careful and neat while Walt is emotional, erratic and sloppy. Gus has an entire network of distributors, henchmen, employees and associates. Walt employs the bare minimum of people he needs in his drug network because hes greedy and doesnt want to pay them.

Heres the interesting twist in the rivalry between Walter White and Gustavo Fring. Walter White does not hate Gustavo Fring. I dont think he does! Walt reveres Gus Fring. Everytime Walt speaks to Gus, he does so with the most awe, contempt, and respect. He wants to be Gus. But because theyre so fundamentally different, Walt can never be Gus.

And I dont think Gus saw Walt as his rival, in the way that Walt wanted to be Guss rival. Guss rival was always Hector. Gus saw Walt as an asset unreliable, unpredictable, but one whose quality of meth was necessary for success.

Gustavo Fring is absolutely brilliant. The character design, Giancarlos unbelievable acting, everything. Hes a ruthless sociopath and more than capable of producing incredible violence, but prefers professionalism to savage brutality, which makes him a perfect fit for a partnership with Mike.. I love how they kept his past open-ended. Adds an air of mystery that suits this character very well. Hes a unique, mysterious and imposing villain and the greatest antagonist that this show has to offer.

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SauI_Goodman
06/21/22 11:14:59 PM
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the longer this list gets and no skylar the more it becomes a joke.

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TheHoldSteady
06/21/22 11:19:15 PM
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#2 Jesse Pinkman
Jesses character evolution is a mirror effect of Walter Whites. As Walt becomes more and more greedy and entrenched in the riches and the power that the empire business affords him, Jesse slowly grows more and more uncomfortable with it. Hes clearly not okay with the body count that he and Walt have left in their path.

If Walter White is the backbone of Breaking Bad, then Jesse is its heart. As the world grows darker and Walter White falls further and further into evil and corruption, Jesse is the one who seeks light at the end of the tunnel. The relationship between Walt and Jesse falls apart because they both end up wanting different things. Walt seeks self-gratification. Jesse seeks redemption. As Walt breaks bad, Jesse tries to break good. And how would Jesse even begin to redeem all the terrible things hes done? All the lives hes ruined? Its no wonder hes manically tossing his blood money around in the dark. Theres no way to even begin to make things right again. Jesse wants to be the good guy, but the damage has already been too severe.

And for someone who started out as a comic relief character, Jesse just suffers so much throughout the series. Unless you dont have a soul you just have to feel for him. Hes talked into dissolving the corpse of his longtime friend, hes beaten up by Tuco, beaten up by Hank, is disowned by his parents, wakes up beside the corpse of the woman he deeply loves and cares about, is nearly assassinated by Mike, is forced into murdering a man who didnt have it coming, is constantly manipulated and taken advantage of the one guy who doesnt hate him or want him dead, is tortured and enslaved by neo-nazis, watches another girlfriend die. This poor fucking guy goes through so fucking much.

#1 Walter White
Okay Ive shit talked Walter enough throughout this list. Hes the best character.

The thing about Walt everyone talks about is his character evolution. Ill say that my favorite thing about Walter White is how fluid he can be. They can write him as an anti-hero, or they can make him the main antagonist. Walt can be a terrifying menace. He can be a badass scientist. He can be a teacher. He can be sad and pathetic. He can be remorseful and heartfelt. Bryan Cranston has excellent comedic chops and so Walt can be downright hilarious as well. He has fantastic chemistry with every other actor on the show (except for Lydia).

I dont make it any secret here that I think Walt is a prideful, self-centered, egotistical, manipulative piece of shit. This show wouldnt have happened if he wasnt these things, because he wouldve just taken the money from Gray Matter to pay for his cancer. Hes a terrible human being, but hey so is everyone else in this top ten except for Donald. I dont need to rank him lower because of all the countless lives hes ruined, for killing Mike and Gus, for getting Hank killed and ruining Skylers life and yada yada yadahes an incredibly engaging and interesting protagonist turned antagonist with iconic character evolution and who is the backbone of this great show.

You know what this shows only flaw was? When Walt finally became the main antagonist in 5B, there was no protagonist there to face him and take him down. It couldve been Hank, but Hank was too swallowed by his pride and anger to be a proper hero. There was Jesse, but Jesse was too remorseful and damaged by that point to actually believably be the one who would take down Heisenberg. This lead to Walt reverting to anti-hero and Jack being introduced as yet another antagonist for him to face. What we got was still great, but I feel like a properly built protagonist character taking down Heisenberg couldve been even better.

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dmaster342
06/21/22 11:22:07 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
the longer this list gets and no skylar the more it becomes a joke.

She was #9.

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au_gold
06/21/22 11:22:54 PM
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Good topic.

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Derwood
06/21/22 11:34:38 PM
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IMO, Jesse is way too high. He's one of my least favorite character on the show. Hank, Mike, Gus, etc. should all be higher
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jumi
06/21/22 11:40:03 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...

#23 Walter White Jr.
Walt Jr is the second main cast member to fall, though it's more for what he could've been than what he is. Overall, we see Flynn's character evolve from a sweet, average teen who worships the ground his father walks on into the one who is willing to leap from his crutches to protect his mother from Walter and call the police on him. That scene is absolutely grueling, and a heartbreakingly beautiful tale of what became of this once normal family. Walt Jr is the very last member of the White/Schrader family to find out Walt's secret, but he's the only one who calls the police on him instead of keeping it secret and he does it immediately. Props kid, props.

But...man, it's Walter White, one of the greatest TV characters of all time. You've got his son and I can just think of a thousand angles you could've taken with Walter White's son. The direction they took isn't bad, but it definitely feels like they could've done more with the character concept.

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NoxObscuras
06/22/22 12:30:25 AM
#73:


TheHoldSteady posted...
#1 Walter White
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MabusIncarnate
06/22/22 12:35:51 AM
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Great list, gonna read through this later. My top 3 are probably Walt, Mike, and Saul.

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Collat
06/22/22 12:54:48 AM
#75:


TheHoldSteady posted...
I just wanted someone with a little more umph as Walt's final enemy. It's all good and he's a good character, that's why I put him in the top 25

I really think they should have introduced him earlier. Makes me think they got cold feet on making Walt go full villain.

Being introduced halfway through the last season just kind of makes him a proxy antagonist for Lydia because shes not going to get her hands dirty like that.
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tripleh213
06/22/22 2:57:45 AM
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Fantastic list

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Collat
06/22/22 3:06:09 AM
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I'd probably put Gus ahead of Jessie, but the top 4 is pretty much a lock with Hank and Saul just behind them. Can't argue with that too much.
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Relient_K
06/22/22 8:18:42 AM
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Fun read. Makes me want to do a rewatch.

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DarkChozoGhost
06/22/22 8:29:06 AM
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Walt can't take the top spot for me because of how frustratingly stupid he often is, when he's supposed to be intelligent. Like when he didn't put the tracker on Gus's car. They were watching him and obviously could deal with it, why the hell would he think he needed to be sneaky?

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Southernfatman
06/22/22 8:48:04 AM
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Great list. Hope you do one for Better Call Saul once it's done.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
Walt can't take the top spot for me because of how frustratingly stupid he often is, when he's supposed to be intelligent. Like when he didn't put the tracker on Gus's car. They were watching him and obviously could deal with it, why the hell would he think he needed to be sneaky?

I like that about him. He's super smart, but also can be a complete doofus when it comes to certain things like that especially within the crime world. Him being that way helped him in the long run because the veterans of the game would underestimate him which would lead to Walt getting up on them.

Plus it can be hilarious, like the door scene at Saul's office where he gets into with Francesca. He doesn't recognize at first that she's extorting him and when he finally leaves, instead of opening the door, he crawls back though the bottom part that he broke. Or him and Jesse carrying the barrel instead of rolling it.

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ScarfForLife
06/22/22 11:25:40 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Great list. Hope you do one for Better Call Saul once it's done.

I like that about him. He's super smart, but also can be a complete doofus when it comes to certain things like that especially within the crime world. Him being that way helped him in the long run because the veterans of the game would underestimate him which would lead to Walt getting up on them.

Plus it can be hilarious, like the door scene at Saul's office where he gets into with Francesca. He doesn't recognize at first that she's extorting him and when he finally leaves, instead of opening the door, he crawls back though the bottom part that he broke. Or him and Jesse carrying the barrel instead of rolling it.

Agreed. Being super smart doesn't make you incapable of mistakes.

Also, love Mike so much. He's been great in BCS too. Just a badass that doesn't flinch at all. Dude sticks a gun in his face? Calmly stares at it and addresses Gus.

His death sucked. It was one of the first times I hated Walt.


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TheHoldSteady
06/23/22 7:50:19 AM
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One bump
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PatrickMahomes
06/23/22 9:17:32 PM
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to 500

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06/23/22 9:39:31 PM
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Quality topic. Now watch the Sopranos and do that. While youre watching, Ill finally watch The Wire in preparation for when you do that one.

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TheHoldSteady
06/23/22 11:13:13 PM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
Kinda weird to me that Ted and Lydia are last place. They may not be the best characters on the show, but they're at least memorable. I don't even recognize the names of some of the other characters on the list, and the little summaries don't help me remember either.

Maybe I should watch the show again if my memory is apparently this bad. =/

I think it's better to be forgettable and bland than outright poorly written, which I think Ted and Lydia are. Being forgettable and bland means I'm neutral towards that character. Being poorly written means I actively dislike that character.

Lydia reminds me of Mandy from The West Wing. It's awkward the whole time because you know it's not working. Ted is just aggressively stupid and that's a poor character motivation to have. Which is his only character motivation. He refuses to pay his back taxes because he's very very dumb and for no other reason and it goes on for like half a season.

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PatrickMahomes
06/23/22 11:35:06 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Lydia reminds me of Mandy from The West Wing. It's awkward the whole time because you know it's not working.
Which sucks because Mandy's first scene was fucking great. I thought her chemistry with Bradley Whitford was great too but it just didn't work with the rest of the cast.

What a phenomenal show that is too

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06/23/22 11:39:29 PM
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NightRender posted...
Every single one of Group Leader's scenes is great.

is he also the dude played by Winn Duffy from Justified?

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TheHoldSteady
06/23/22 11:50:00 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Which sucks because Mandy's first scene was fucking great. I thought her chemistry with Bradley Whitford was great too but it just didn't work with the rest of the cast.

What a phenomenal show that is too

Mandy the first few episodes was actually really good but then she just became the staff member who argued for political, immoral solutions to problems instead of the moral, just solutions and got saddled with stupid plots that even the best actors in that show wouldn't have been able to salvage

Idk, she had potential
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pegusus123456
06/24/22 1:10:21 AM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
He refuses to pay his back taxes because he's very very dumb and for no other reason and it goes on for like half a season.
To be fair, I think that's true of most people IRL who don't pay their taxes lol.

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