Current Events > Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode 5 Topic *SPOILERS*

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RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

Some nice REVA-lations from this eppy! get it? Reva? Revalations lol

Next episode better be two hours. Lots to wrap up like
* Obi vs Vader rematch
* Returning Leia home
* What's going to happen with Luke on Tatooine
* Qui-Gon?
* Grogu scene? Maybe there will be another REVA-lation, Reva rescued Baby Yoda.

You're giving Disney too much credit...half of that wont happen.

CyricZ posted...

Wow you must be real fun at parties.

Wow, long time no see mr. Cyric. But yeah it is actually dumb, i mean Kenobi specifically rubs it in that shes 10 and needs protection but then leaves her to neglect. I mean dont they have fucking techs who routinely conduct maintenance?

CyricZ posted...

Reminder that a nine-year-old human won a major podrace against seasoned professionals.

The most force sensitive 9yo whos been into podracing and mechanics his whole life vs a sheltered princess that maybe has only ever repaired her droid at most dealing with a strange power unit on another planet. Right.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I'm definitely watching this show for all the throwbacks to the dumbest movies,in the franchise.

If you really think that that tells me everything. You could film 2 hours of literal turd and itd still be better than the sequel trilogy in the sense of them having any cultural relevance down the line. No one will remember those movies fondly, there will be no nostalgia, no redeeming factor. In fact contrary to what happened with prequels, the more time passes the more clear it is how bad, inconsistent and irrelevant the sequels are. And yet you claim theyre not somehow the dumbest movies in that universe.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

what the fuck does this mean in this context?

Just imagine that people can like posts on gfaqs.

Also apparently, getting stabbed with a lightsaber is no longer enough to die when its been a one-shot insta-kill in every other instance.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Just imagine that people can like posts on gfaqs.

Bruh did you just use a fucking twitter meme on gamefaqs?

This is exactly why we don't want a like button, lmao

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

If you really think that that tells me everything.

The prequels are transparently the worst things in the franchise. It never stopped being fun to mock them, and nobody who simps for them is fooling anyone anymore.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

nobody who simps for them is fooling anyone anymore.

They're only showing their rather specific age.

The best part of the Reva/Vader fight was Reva trying to souls roll around Vader and it going exactly as it would in a non video game fight.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

The prequels are transparently the worst things in the franchise. It never stopped being fun to mock them, and nobody who simps for them is fooling anyone anymore.

I have no love for the prequels at all. They are all terrible films. However, the worst mainline Star Wars film is clearly Rise of Skywalker and it's not even close.

I was perplexed as to why they only sent in two ships full of troopers. Like not only is this Obi-Wan, the guy you've been hunting down, this is a base that you want to take and people you want to take. Why didn't you send in every trooper!? Send Tie Fighters and other units, you have to have stronger guns than those to blow down a few doors.

There was a lot of stupid but I did enjoy watching Vader pull down that ship and tear it apart. I didn't like how the other ship just noped out so quick and Vader did nothing about it. So the pilot in the first ship is screwed though, right?
I don't get how Obi-Wan got away from the two troopers and why there were only two escorting him (or why they escorted him inside to begin with).

TLDR: I liked it but it was full of stupid.

Delta_Force posted...

I was perplexed as to why they only sent in two ships full of troopers. Like not only is this Obi-Wan, the guy you've been hunting down, this is a base that you want to take and people you want to take. Why didn't you send in every trooper!? Send Tie Fighters and other units, you have to have stronger guns than those to blow down a few doors.

There was a lot of stupid but I did enjoy watching Vader pull down that ship and tear it apart. I didn't like how the other ship just noped out so quick and Vader did nothing about it. So the pilot in the first ship is screwed though, right?
I don't get how Obi-Wan got away from the two troopers and why there were only two escorting him (or why they escorted him inside to begin with).

TLDR: I liked it but it was full of stupid.

The more troops you send the longer it takes to do that a small force is faster and vader Is impatient as fuck and the empire Arrogantly assumed this would be easy

Rather than throw a thermal detonator at the door as stormtroopers flow through it, hold on to it just in case you have to make a heroic sacrifice.

I don't understand all the people defending all the Disney Star Wars shit.

90 percent of the EU before Disney took over shits on anything Disney has put out since.

They need someone in charge with vision. Right now, they have no idea what they are doing and they keep fucking up Star Wars lore because they have no idea what Star Wars is even about.

I was really hoping this show would be more of a character study on Obi Wan. I don't know why I expected anything different than what we got.

Time to read some EU books. Try to get my love for Star Wars back.

Lord_Shadow posted...

The more troops you send the longer it takes to do that a small force is faster and vader Is impatient as fuck and the empire Arrogantly assumed this would be easy

That small force was just standing there doing nothing while 1 or 2 big guns were weakening the doors (at best).
If Vader was so impatient he should have gone in first and ripped the doors apart.
The Empire wasn't being impatient by half assing things here, first off the Empire had nothing to do with it, this was Vader, his Inquisitor and some troopers. Apparently a single Star Destroyer houses thousands of troopers and yet they sent in a few dozen to knock on the door? Flood the facility, hit them at every entrance, surround the planet (if you want to get the whole Empire involved), mobilize more troops dammit. This was a pitiful display at best.

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How did he convince her of doing something she had been plotting all along?

It sounded more like a "lets both take him down" but clearly that wasn't in the cards. Hell she could have helped Obi-Wan escape and ambush Vader in a small room. It probably wouldn't have worked but at least that would have made sense. I don't even understand why she attacked him when she did, she had no advantage. It was a moronic thing to do. She at least should have attacked Vader when he was pulling down the decoy ship.

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Which means what?
She was already enabling that to reach her goals.

Delta_Force posted...

There was a lot of stupid but I did enjoy watching Vader pull down that ship and tear it apart. I didn't like how the other ship just noped out so quick and Vader did nothing about it.

I assumed he was a bit drained. His arm was shaking while bringing down the first ship.

More importantly, there's a star destroyer off planet. Couldn't they just send some tie fighters after the 2nd ship?

Delta_Force posted...

How did he convince her of doing something she had been plotting all along?

It sounded more like a "lets both take him down" but clearly that wasn't in the cards. Hell she could have helped Obi-Wan escape and ambush Vader in a small room. It probably wouldn't have worked but at least that would have made sense. I don't even understand why she attacked him when she did, she had no advantage. It was a moronic thing to do. She at least should have attacked Vader when he was pulling down the decoy ship.

Kenobi was wrong. He thought Vader would be too preoccupied with Kenobi getting away, and Reva believed it.

theAteam posted...

I assumed he was a bit drained. His arm was shaking while bringing down the first ship.

More importantly, there's a star destroyer off planet. Couldn't they just send some tie fighters after the 2nd ship?

Well I can't speak to how drained he "could" be. I just don't see it happening but that's what they went for. Everything else about that scene was cool.

And yeah those guys should have been overwhelmed with just one Star Destroyer.

Glob posted...

However, the worst mainline Star Wars film is clearly Rise of Skywalker and it's not even close.

Nah, it has Klaud and Babu Frik. And I'm pretty sure Hux is peeing himself every time he's onscreen. It's a bad movie but it's a blast. The prequels couldn't even blast a mouse's butthole.

Vader couldn't stop the Tantive IV in Rogue One or the Millennium Falcon in TESB?

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

Vader couldn't stop the Tantive IV in Rogue One or the Millennium Falcon in TESB?

Those are probably more powerful ships

I still dont get why Reva had them firing that big ass gun into a door she could just slice through like butter.

It would have been much more effective if placed where it could fire on any ship leaving the hanger.

I think there's some force rule where you have to have pooped on the ship before you can wave it around.

divot1338 posted...

I still dont get why Reva had them firing that big ass gun into a door she could just slice through like butter.

It would have been much more effective if placed where it could fire on any ship leaving the hanger.

This show definitely didn't spend a lot of time on critical thinking in regards to plot holes and logic.

This episode was a fucking love letter to me as a gigantic Vader fan. Him forcing the transport to land and ripping it apart has to be the best force feat in live action, and then clowning Reva with her own saber was hilarious.

I feel like his duel with Reva is EXACTLY how a Vader vs Rey/Kylo duel would go lol.

It was also great to see Hayden back as Anakin and to see that both him and Ewan still have all their saber skills. 10/10 episode.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Nah, it has Klaud and Babu Frik. And I'm pretty sure Hux is peeing himself every time he's onscreen. It's a bad movie but it's a blast. The prequels couldn't even blast a mouse's butthole.

You missed the window to make a "bullseye womp rats with a T-16" joke. For shame.

...this reminded me that I need to watch Orville, for some reason.

Vader in the hanger of this episode brought me back to when he said this
https://youtu.be/FWTUvuUpwGM

This has been a fun show. Really fun seeing them fill in the bridge between Anakin and Vader a bit.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

The prequels are transparently the worst things in the franchise. It never stopped being fun to mock them, and nobody who simps for them is fooling anyone anymore.

You clearly have no understanding of SW or cinematography if you really think this. Cinema as a whole has gone way downhill since 20 years ago bar some very specific directors. Prequels felt only as bad as they did in the context of all the great/cool competing cinema that was coming out at that time, but theres no way any of the Disney era output is as good. Some come close, like R1, some parts of Mando and the throwbacks in Obi-Wan and a couple of other things, but overall none of it, and the main sequel trilogy in particular, leave you with the same feeling of satisfaction and awe as the prequels and OT did.

CyricZ posted...

They're only showing their rather specific age.

Arent you like 45?

is it me or Vader has been sucking throughout this show?

dude cant put out a fire and lets a ship escape. lol

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

is it me or Vader has been sucking throughout this show?

bruh

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Cinema as a whole has gone way downhill since 20 years ago bar some very specific directors. Prequels felt only as bad as they did in the context of all the great/cool competing cinema that was coming out at that time, but theres no way any of the Disney era output is as good.

Lmao what on Earh

Like all most all Star Wars shows, it had some super cool moments, like Vader forcing the spaceship to the ground and then ripping it apart, but then it has awful writing, a terrible plot full of holes and 2-dimensional characters...

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

overall none of it, and the main sequel trilogy in particular, leave you with the same feeling of satisfaction and awe as the prequels and OT did.

lol oh my God.

Arent you like 45?

I'm 42, thanks. The point I was making is that prequel simps were kids when they came out, which is why they remember them fondly and go to bat for them.

I wasn't even referring specifically to you with that, but if you want to wear that hat proudly, be my guest.

and btw, wouldnt it have made more sense for Vader to promote Reva to grand inquisitor or whatever after they captured Obi-Wan and Leia?

i know it sounds nitpicky but you know, it makes sense to promote someone after the job is done. lol

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

You clearly have no understanding of SW or cinematography if you really think this.

Proudly on the former, and LOL I have better taste than you on the latter.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Cinema as a whole has gone way downhill since 20 years ago bar some very specific directors.

This is the best time for movies since like, the 70s. You just have crummy taste and only watch baby movies from Hollywood.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Prequels felt only as bad as they did in the context of all the great/cool competing cinema that was coming out at that time, but theres no way any of the Disney era output is as good.

The prequels felt like fucking garbage because they were crummy movies. They feel even worse now that I'm older and have had even more experience with movies. And the sequels are better and more fun.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Some come close, like R1, some parts of Mando and the throwbacks in Obi-Wan and a couple of other things, but overall none of it, and the main sequel trilogy in particular, leave you with the same feeling of satisfaction and awe as the prequels and OT did.

Yeah, the prequels left me with a sense of awe alright.

Awe my balls.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

is it me or Vader has been sucking throughout this show?

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

and btw, wouldnt it have made more sense for Vader to promote Reva to grand inquisitor or whatever after they captured Obi-Wan and Leia?

The running theme of this show is that everyone is playing everyone else.

Ben knows how Vader will react to basically anything. Vader knows Reva is going to turn on him. Reva played Flea into being a patsy.
Hell, even Bail is playing Ben, to some extent.

I've been pretty tepid on the series for the most part, but the Vader segments make up for it. For whatever reason I love seeing Vader lose his temper (something that previously only really came into play during the opening act of ANH), and that's come out a lot in this show: him stalking through the mining town slaughtering randos (even if that did cross into the realm of puppy-kicking senseless cruelty), him storming into the room and force-choking Reva at the end of Ep 4, him force-grabbing the ship.

An earlier poster brought up canon inconsistencies ('why didn't he Force-grab [insert ship]?'), and while that criticism is valid, I'm personally willing to write it off as Vader only giving enough fucks to muster a vulgar display of power like that when he's really, really pissed off.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

And the sequels are better and more fun.

This line invalidates everything else you said. You could be right about all else, and the prequels might be the second biggest pile of shit, but sequels are objectively just that much worse; they dont have any of the cool peaks of the prequels like the duels, great new memorable tech and ships, original worlds that make sense and the overall lore and the setting, and their lows are just as bad at best. Guy thinks he watched 2 indie movies and is now an expert.
Also i was mostly referring to western/Hollywood movies in my original comment, which were indeed much better back in the day than now, sorry for not being specific enough.

CyricZ posted...

I wasn't even referring specifically to you with that, but if you want to wear that hat proudly, be my guest.

I do realize all the shortcomings of the prequels and that much was clear way back when the RedLetterMedia reviews came out. Still, its another sign of maturity when despite all of that youre still able to filter out all the good things in any media and in the prequels specifically and it turns out theres quite a lot.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

This line invalidates everything else you said.

That's very convenient. How lucky for you!

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

You could be right about all else, and the prequels might be the second biggest pile of s***, but sequels are objectively just that much worse; they dont have any of the cool peaks of the prequels like the duels, great new memorable tech and ships, original worlds that make sense and the overall lore and the setting, and their lows are just as bad at best. Guy thinks he watched 2 indie movies and is now an expert.

Aw man, there's nothing fucking boring about getting some new space boats. And fantastic new planets like Tatooine, Tatooine again, The Big City, and the underwater level.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Also i was mostly referring to western/Hollywood movies in my original comment, which were indeed much better back in the day than now, sorry for not being specific enough.

I was, too. If anything, Asian cinema could be said to be on the more noticeable downturn.

DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Still, its another sign of maturity when despite all of that youre still able to filter out all the good things in any media and in the prequels specifically and it turns out theres quite a lot.

It's not maturity. It's copium.

You can like the movies all you want. No one's stopping you.

Just don't pretend that makes you an authority on their comparative quality.

Finally got around to watching it just now.

Vader vs Reva was fantastic. They do have a lot to wrap up in the finale though so I'm beginning to wonder if the rumors of a surprise season 2 announcement are actually legit.

littlebro07 posted...

Finally got around to watching it just now.

Vader vs Reva was fantastic. They do have a lot to wrap up in the finale though so I'm beginning to wonder if the rumors of a surprise season 2 announcement are actually legit.

Apparently, Ewan McGregor and all the cast and crew want a season 2, but that it was originally just supposed to be 1 season.

There's no way they're not doing a season 2.

CyricZ posted...

It's not maturity. It's copium.

You can like the movies all you want. No one's stopping you.

Just don't pretend that makes you an authority on their comparative quality.

Its not copium. Having good parts doesnt make them perfect. But you cant deny they have them. If anything, the amount of training they went through for the duels alone is amazing enough and yes it totally makes a movie better, its also one of the major downsides of the newer films/series, the battles and duels are just piss poor and even more dumbed down than however unrealistic the ones in the prequels felt.

Also the fact they were good enough to be relevant and talked about that theyve become cultural phenomena as meme goldmines and through nostalgia is noteworthy in itself. I highly doubt any of the sequels will be culturally relevant in 15-20 years, early 2000s was a different time and every big thing made a bigger impact, the attention spans and information flow of nowadays just inherently wouldnt allow for anything to stick around for that long

how is this show getting worse each episode lol

bevan306 posted...

how is this show getting worse each episode lol

Ive enjoyed the whole thing but can understand why people dislike it, but I felt like this was easily the best episode so far