Current Events > Ukraine president says he's been told Russia will attack Wednesday

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That's not nice of them

CaptainStrong posted...

That's all America should do. I don't want to go to the brink of nuclear war over some random country two thirds of Americans can't even point out on a map. If Russia wants Ukraine so bad, they can fucking have it for all I care.

Lol there will never be a real nuclear war. No leaders, especially ones like Putin, would ever take the chance of losing their life in a retaliatory strike. They care too much about themselves.

BilalPowell posted...

Most Americans can't point out America on a map. Guess we should let Russia take over America too.

My point was it's an irrelevant country to most Americans. It's not worth getting involved in when the risk is nuclear war and complete destruction of this planet.

And there's no way most people in America can't point it out on a map. I know America is full of dumbasses, but there's no way it's that stupid.

COVxy posted...

Feel like a joke is usually followed by some indication that you made a joke.

This is that indication
https://twitter.com/vplus/status/1493306416525942785

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1493318642754334723

It's hard to make jokes work in translation.

IndorilGawain posted...

Apparently! Really makes other leftists look like hypocrites when they're happy to (rightfully) condemn American aggression yet willing to excuse anything Russia does or pretend it's all propaganda.

Are you okay dude? No leftist does this. You might be confusing tankies for leftists, which they aren't

UnholyMudcrab posted...

"If Russia wants Ukraine so bad, they can fucking have it for all I care"
"If Russia wants the Baltics..."
"If Russia wants Finland..."

If Russia tries to take over Finland, Finland and the rest of the European Union should fight, not America.
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

What a total straw man. Just because I don't want to fight for some random eastern European country doesn't mean I don't want to fight for my own country.

They keep moving the goalposts

OVERGOATED posted...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-attack-by-end-week/

Dude, they're doing it ironically.

tweet deleted?

Antifar posted...

This is that indication
https://twitter.com/vplus/status/1493306416525942785

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1493318642754334723

It's hard to make jokes work in translation.

I cannot reconcile the Ukrainian president flippantly mocking the possibility of Russian attacks when Russia has literally stationed an army at the border and are ready to attack at a given notice.

Not sure why you are so readily doing so.

why would russia attack in winter? Isn't that a bad idea?

Ubergeneral3 posted...

why would russia attack in winter? Isn't that a bad idea?

Russia's at their best in winter. It's everyone else who can't attack in winter

BilalPowell posted...

Russia's at their best in winter. It's everyone else who can't attack in winter

This stereotype is outdated. The mud was a bigger hindrance than the winter.

ChainedChained posted...

This stereotype is outdated. The mud was a bigger hindrance than the winter.

And now you're making it sound like it was a cakewalk in the winter if only it hadn't rained

Whoever is predicting wrong right now is going to look like a real fool in a couple of weeks

Was OP fake news? Why did NBC news delete the tweet?

COVxy posted...

I cannot reconcile the Ukrainian president flippantly mocking the possibility of Russian attacks when Russia has literally stationed an army at the border and are ready to attack at a given notice.

The alternative is reconciling Ukrainian media and advisors saying he was being ironic despite that not being the case.

https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1493287086266408966?

Assuming this translation is correct, it could well be that he is referring to media reports rather than intel. "They say it's happening Wednesday, we'll make Wednesday a show of our pride."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes?wprov=sfla1

That sounds patriotic, not ironic.

Do Ukrainians not like Ukraine?

COVxy posted...

That sounds patriotic, not ironic.

The irony is in the first sentence, not the second. It'd be like Trump saying to his crowd that he heard someone call them deplorable.

Have we forgotten that Russia has been consistently fucking around in Ukraine since 2014?

BilalPowell posted...

Russia's at their best in winter. It's everyone else who can't attack in winter

Not really. They get cold and freeze to death like everyone else.

The difference is in the aggressor nation not being prepared for it. In both Napoleon and Nazi Germanys case, the two prominent examples of this, they were fitted for summer combat. With the Germans specifically, their vehicles were not suited for the cold weather, and it meant tanks and trucks would break down. Couple this with the intense mud, and you have a logistical nightmare of people without good enough winter clothing and supply issues preventing food and stuff from getting to troops.

Its not that Russia is better at winter fighting, its more that the big invasions we point to are invasions that were not prepared for it.

Point in case, the Mongolians attacked in the winter, and with a mere scouting force, and absolutely wrecked havoc throughout Russia. Theyd even utilize the lakes being frozen to move even more effectively and stuff like that.

Similar thing happened in Finland just before the European theatre of WW2 blew up, where the Soviets were absolutely embarrassed after a brutal winter campaign.

Its not that the Russians are some god tier winter warriors, and more that French and German people wearing summer outfits and with tools not designed for cold weather didnt fare well when they unexpectedly were still deep in Russia when the winter hit. Thats a logistics and overall strategic failure by them, not an indication that General Winter is a major advantage to the Russians.

https://thehill.com/homenews/594246-russia-announces-withdrawal-of-some-troops-near-ukraine

Ukraine kept rolling 6's.

Really seems like Russia will not invade The Ukraine

Over the next few weeks the USA will say we diverted an invasion even though they were the ones who have been saying Russia will invade

If Russia does invade (which would obviously be a bad thing) they would have to do it before mid-late March when the ground will thaw and be too soft for tanks and troops to easily pass

Gwynevere posted...

Are you okay dude? No leftist does this. You might be confusing tankies for leftists, which they aren't

They say the same thing about liberals lol

Russia way of getting a false start on a play to get 10 yards free

It's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
Only people who think Ukraine belongs to Russia say the Ukraine.

I am worried for the ukraine

Thompson posted...

It's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
Only people who think Ukraine belongs to Russia say the Ukraine.

The ukraine is actually the weather in England

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

The ukraine is actually the weather in England

Now that's funny

Thompson posted...

It's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
Only people who think Ukraine belongs to Russia say the Ukraine.

I believe thats just a talking point recently started that people in Ukraine really dont give a fuck about

Tell the president there isn't gonna be 100 presidents

Must have been the wrong Wednesday.

buddhamonster posted...

Not really. They get cold and freeze to death like everyone else.

The difference is in the aggressor nation not being prepared for it. In both Napoleon and Nazi Germanys case, the two prominent examples of this, they were fitted for summer combat. With the Germans specifically, their vehicles were not suited for the cold weather, and it meant tanks and trucks would break down. Couple this with the intense mud, and you have a logistical nightmare of people without good enough winter clothing and supply issues preventing food and stuff from getting to troops.

Its not that Russia is better at winter fighting, its more that the big invasions we point to are invasions that were not prepared for it.

Point in case, the Mongolians attacked in the winter, and with a mere scouting force, and absolutely wrecked havoc throughout Russia. Theyd even utilize the lakes being frozen to move even more effectively and stuff like that.

Similar thing happened in Finland just before the European theatre of WW2 blew up, where the Soviets were absolutely embarrassed after a brutal winter campaign.

Its not that the Russians are some god tier winter warriors, and more that French and German people wearing summer outfits and with tools not designed for cold weather didnt fare well when they unexpectedly were still deep in Russia when the winter hit. Thats a logistics and overall strategic failure by them, not an indication that General Winter is a major advantage to the Russians.

The Russian winter excuse is a cold war-born huge cop-out for Napoleon and Germany getting their butts whooped by Russia in the wars. I'm not the best at math but I'm pretty sure WW2 lasted more than 1 winter? This isn't an uncommon excuse either, a lot of countries that lose wars like to blame every external factor but themselves. The lost cause scenario for the confederates, exaggerating the enemy's numbers during a loss, the weather, etc. The basis of the story is that the US needed the ex german generals to inform them on how to beat the Soviets since they obviously fought a war against them. Like most people they didn't want to blame themselves so they blamed winter and dead/imprisoned people lol.

So how's the invasion going?

BilalPowell posted...

So how's the invasion going?

You haven't heard?

Me niether

Ukraine has had 6 presidents

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