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MrMallard
02/11/22 5:43:26 PM
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...and gay people still aren't allowed to donate blood due to the HIV pandemic in the 90's and HIV/AIDS being considered a "gay disease".

https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/07/more-straight-than-gay-people-catching-hiv-for-first-time-in-decade-16050148/

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BilalPowell
02/11/22 5:44:57 PM
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Just gay men. They don't care if gay women donate blood.

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/22 5:46:33 PM
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Gays are almost certainly a hell of a lot more cautious now, while the straights have essentially forgotten it.
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CRON
02/11/22 5:47:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
the straights
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/5/AARv9PAAC6jd.jpg


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Jiek_Fafn
02/11/22 5:49:14 PM
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This is about the UK. You guys live in a topsy turvy land where straights don't have Hulu but they can get AIDS.

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gunplagirl
02/11/22 6:05:19 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Just gay men. They don't care if gay women donate blood.
Unless those women are trans then they consider us gay men regardless of who we sleep with.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/11/22 8:54:22 PM
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Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.

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Norman_Smiley
02/11/22 8:58:12 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.

My thought as well.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/11/22 8:58:51 PM
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MrMallard posted...
and gay people still aren't allowed to donate blood

wait what
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/11/22 8:58:53 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.

1.2%45% is more or less than 50%the rest

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yemmy
02/11/22 9:00:18 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.

Yes. This is because it spreads a lot easier via anal sex.


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Flauros
02/11/22 9:02:43 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.
So they are using raw numbers over per capita?

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SydneySweenHero
02/11/22 9:03:32 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.
This >_>

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SydneySweenHero
02/11/22 9:04:47 PM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
wait what
Their rationale behind it is that the HIV virus is undetectable for 6 months from when you first contract it.

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Imit8m3
02/11/22 9:08:01 PM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
wait what
Gay sex can spread HIV like wildfire compared to straight sex. HIV can be passed thru blood exposure. And there is a small window of time that HIV is undetectable before a full blown infection. This would, in effect, bypass the HIV test performed on all blood donations. Therefore, all high risk behavior, ie. Gay sex, is a permanent deferal.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/11/22 9:10:37 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
Gay sex can spread HIV like wildfire compared to straight sex. HIV can be passed thru blood exposure. And there is a small window of time that HIV is undetectable before a full blown infection. This would, in effect, bypass the HIV test performed on all blood donations. Therefore, all high risk behavior, ie. Gay sex, is a permanent deferal.

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MrMallard
02/11/22 9:25:10 PM
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It turns out that gay men can donate blood, but they have to abstain from sexual contact for three months before they're allowed to donate. Up until 2021, they had to abstain from sexual contact for 12 months.

If there was a blanket ban on anal sex for all blood donors, that'd be one thing. The root of that ban would still come from the remnants of a 30 year old pandemic that saw the scapegoating of the queer community, but it would at least be a sweeping ban that affected everyone equally. To single out gay people when the majority of the disease's infection figures are coming about in straight people shows how discriminatory and unfair this law really is.

Because after all, straight people can and do have anal sex as well. Not to mention that HIV isn't solely transmitted through anal sex, with it being transmissible through vaginal and oral sex. It may spread easier via anal sex, but again, straight people have anal sex too. But do all blood donors face an abstinence period before giving blood, even when the majority of new HIV transmissions are between straight people? No. It's discriminatory.

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garan
02/11/22 9:27:20 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.


That's not a higher infection rate than gay men-- title is blatantly false.
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Guide
02/11/22 9:31:41 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Topic title seems very misleading? Article says that of all the new HIV cases in 2020, 50% were among straight men/women, compared to 45% among gay men. However gay men only make up like 1.2% of the population there? So they still have an extraordinarily higher infection rate than straight people.

Is this rooted in recent sources? I can't really argue against the 3 month thing if so.

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Esrac
02/11/22 9:51:23 PM
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Guide posted...
Is this rooted in recent sources? I can't really argue against the 3 month thing if so.

The article mentions the numbers come from the UK Health Security Agency.

TC is being deceptive, because HIV infection rates have been insanely disproportionatly high for MSM/Gay men for decades.

Its even bigger in the US, where MSM make up about 70% of HIV infections.
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dioxxys
02/11/22 10:08:17 PM
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yemmy posted...
Yes. This is because it spreads a lot easier via anal sex.
S*** really maybe I should get that prevention medication that has a crazy high rate of protection

I'm straight but I love the booty hole
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SauI_Goodman
02/11/22 10:12:51 PM
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Questuon about blood donation since it was brought up.i noticed on the form the last time i donated it asked if you have been woth a prostitute (sex worker) in the last 12 months. I have been with some many years ago but not in 12 months. If i had checked yes would i be disqualified? I imagine they could just check a small sample of it before issuing it.

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thronedfire2
02/11/22 10:15:01 PM
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0x4B616E6A6F posted...
I never knew this.

you can't donate blood within 6 months of getting a tattoo either iirc

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yemmy
02/11/22 10:43:45 PM
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dioxxys posted...
S*** really maybe I should get that prevention medication that has a crazy high rate of protection

I'm straight but I love the booty hole

Yes

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Imit8m3
02/11/22 10:56:26 PM
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dioxxys posted...
S*** really maybe I should get that prevention medication that has a crazy high rate of protection

I'm straight but I love the booty hole
I think it's because the semen stays in the rectum, and gets absorbed just like all fluid is absorbed in the "booty hole".
If you're doing the inseminating, it should be safer than the other way around.

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SauI_Goodman
02/11/22 10:57:50 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
I think it's because the semen stays in the rectum, and absorbed as all fluid is absorbed in the "booty hole".
If you're doing the inseminating, it should be safer than the other way around.
not if blood gets inside the pee pee hole

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Robot2600
02/11/22 11:04:56 PM
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not even just gay men, but also bi men.

and fuck them im not gonna lie to donate blood.

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Robot2600
02/11/22 11:06:19 PM
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also the trend isn't too surprising. men having sex with men take AIDS more seriously than the straights.

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gunplagirl
02/12/22 12:10:18 AM
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Oh, here's the thing. A straight girl could go and get a train ran on her every weekend, anal only, and she'll still be able to donate blood.

A gay guy would have to practice abstinence for a year or longer to do so in the US. Doesn't matter if he's monogamous.

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dioxxys
02/12/22 12:42:59 AM
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Do I need PrEP if I am loyal to a singular girl or is HIV a sleeping around kind of thing?
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/12/22 12:50:27 AM
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Like 65% of the country isnt eligible to donate blood

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HairyQueen
02/12/22 12:53:49 AM
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CRON posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/5/AARv9PAAC6jd.jpg
What's wrong with the straights?

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Funkydog
02/12/22 5:30:39 AM
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In the UK at least, being gay is irrelevant now and no longer a question that is asked when donating blood.

All down to if you've had anal sex (regardless of orientation) recently, if you are a sex worker (now or in the past) or your drug use (with a few other things related to hepatitis etc)

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/12/22 9:08:43 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I regret to inform you the straights are at it again.

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