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Antifar
02/09/22 11:31:21 AM
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against an affordable housing proposal in his Ohio town
https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/video-yellow-springs-votes-no-on-housing-plan-after-chappelle-others-speak-up/WFSD7UXAYVECLOFCZPWU4IV4FE/

Oberer Homes can move forward with a new development in Yellow Springs, but without an affordable housing component initially promised to the village, after council voted against the villages own plan Monday night.

The village and Oberer had worked together to produce a plan that would include duplexes and affordable housing along with single-family homes in a 53-acre area along Spillan Road at the south edge of town.

The village initially asked for the development to advance affordable housing in the village, including an area that the village would later be able to develop into affordable housing, as well as more duplexes and townhomes.

But Monday night, after complaints from numerous residents, village council voted 2-2 with one abstention on the revised planned unit development zoning.

That means the zoning reverts to what was previously approved, with 143 single-family homes on the lot, with the homes starting at about $300,000, according to village documents. The village annexed about 34 acres of the land into the village last summer.

The development that council voted on Monday night would have included 64 single-family homes, 52 duplexes and 24 townhomes with an additional 1.75 acres to be donated to the community for affordable housing to be built later.

Multiple Yellow Springs villagers, including entertainer Dave Chappelle, got involved against the project. Chappelle even threatened to pull his business interests from the village, which include a plan for a restaurant called Firehouse Eatery and comedy club called Live from YS. Chappelles company, Iron Table Holdings LLC, bought the former Miami Twp. fire station at 225 Corry St. in December.

Chappelle repeated his threat again on Monday night in the city council meeting.

I am not bluffing, he said. I will take it all off the table.

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gunplagirl
02/09/22 11:34:18 AM
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Piece of shit human being a piece of shit, go figure

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sondast
02/09/22 11:36:13 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Piece of shit human being a piece of shit, go figure


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eston
02/09/22 11:36:30 AM
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I hope his eatery gets sued by Firehouse Subs

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Kegran
02/09/22 11:38:19 AM
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I don't blame him. I see from the article it would have established a home owner's association.
Those are a nightmare and generally charge ridiculous fees.
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voldothegr8
02/09/22 11:41:15 AM
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Other villagers cited concerns with traffic flow, problems with a proposed homeowners association and issues with water management, but several villagers said they also felt that council had not included them in the process with Oberer.

One resident, Matthew Kirk, a member of the citizens board who worked on the project, said he was initially excited but his view later soured. He argued that the plan was really two projects rather than one: a single-family home development next to a condo development.

I think its important to kind of understand the framing and also understand how those products attract different homebuyers, Kirk said.

Fair, next

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CADE FOSTER
02/09/22 11:44:40 AM
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Hoa can suck fat dick fuck un
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SweetieBeIle462
02/09/22 12:15:28 PM
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There used to be an awesome patch of desert land near my folks neighborhood for decades amd was amazing for jogging, biking, and dog walikng but a few years ago it was turned into affordable housing high rises.

It fucking sucks ass what it's done to the peace there.

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CRON
02/09/22 12:16:14 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
There used to be an awesome patch of desert land near my folks neighborhood for decades but a few years ago it was turned into affordable housing high rises.

It fucking sucks as what it's done to the peace there.
Would you feel the same if they were luxury high rises?

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TheGoldenEel
02/09/22 12:17:47 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
There used to be an awesome patch of desert land near my folks neighborhood for decades amd was amazing for jogging, biking, and dog walikng but a few years ago it was turned into affordable housing high rises.

It fucking sucks ass what it's done to the peace there.
Yeah it sucks to live in a place that other people want to live in too

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Gwynevere
02/09/22 12:19:27 PM
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I mean yeah

Chapelle has been rich for long enough he's just completely disassociated and forgotten the feeling of actually struggling to live and pay for shit

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SweetieBeIle462
02/09/22 12:20:42 PM
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CRON posted...
Would you feel the same if they were luxury high rises?

Not nearly as much but the feeling would still be negative.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/09/22 12:21:25 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
There used to be an awesome patch of desert land near my folks neighborhood for decades amd was amazing for jogging, biking, and dog walikng but a few years ago it was turned into affordable housing high rises.

It fucking sucks ass what it's done to the peace there.
People have to live somewhere.

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SweetieBeIle462
02/09/22 12:24:25 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
People have to live somewhere.

True and this is inevitable as population climbs.

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Prestoff
02/09/22 12:25:18 PM
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Did it say what his reasoning was for being against it?

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PatrickMahomes
02/09/22 12:29:00 PM
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If I've learned anything about news and headlines in adulthood, it's to look for the why.

Headline and article: "Person says NO to affordable housing"

I even read the whole OP and didn't get a "Why."

Anyone have more detail as to why there are objections? Clearly it's not just Chappelle either, as there was a 2-2 vote with one abstaining.

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CADE FOSTER
02/09/22 12:37:30 PM
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It lowers property value that's probably why
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CRON
02/09/22 2:53:24 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
Not nearly as much
Ah, so you have a problem with the poor. Thanks for being upfront about it.


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Unsugarized_Foo
02/10/22 8:19:33 PM
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Good on him. One less chance for landlords to be a parasite to poor people

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AceMos
02/11/22 5:03:03 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
There used to be an awesome patch of desert land near my folks neighborhood for decades amd was amazing for jogging, biking, and dog walikng but a few years ago it was turned into affordable housing high rises.

It fucking sucks ass what it's done to the peace there.

you better never have once complained about the homeless

NOT ONCE

for the rest of your life you are not allowed to ever complain about the homeless

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Allanon23
02/11/22 5:04:49 PM
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ITT: People who didn't read why he was against the plan.

The "affordable housing" were homes worth $350k-600k. Not affordable for the average middle class in Ohio family at all.

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AceMos
02/11/22 5:08:44 PM
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Allanon23 posted...
ITT: People who didn't read why he was against the plan.

The "affordable housing" were homes worth $350k-600k. Not affordable for the average middle class in Ohio family at all.
and he did not demand they be made CHEAPER

he wanted them gone alltogether

he did not demand they offer more land

he only cares about how it would effect the property value of his property


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Giant_Aspirin
02/11/22 5:10:43 PM
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Allanon23 posted...
ITT: People who didn't read why he was against the plan.

The "affordable housing" were homes worth $350k-600k. Not affordable for the average middle class in Ohio family at all.

source?

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FLAMING EVIL HOMER
02/11/22 5:13:50 PM
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Off-topic, but what actually raises property value?


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AceMos
02/11/22 5:14:28 PM
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FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Off-topic, but what actually raises property value?
rich ppl in there every increasinge fforts to screw over the poor

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CyricZ
02/11/22 5:17:16 PM
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AceMos posted...
and he did not demand they be made CHEAPER

he wanted them gone alltogether

he did not demand they offer more land

he only cares about how it would effect the property value of his property
I've been hearing the allotted affordable housing section would be 1.7 acres, which is tiny, and it would be done for the sake of getting a tax break.

Which means that someone against this would be someone wanting more affordable housing in that area, not less.

But I've yet to see that that's what's happening.

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AceMos
02/11/22 5:19:48 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I've been hearing the allotted affordable housing section would be 1.7 acres, which is tiny, and it would be done for the sake of getting a tax break.

Which means that someone against this would be someone wanting more affordable housing in that area, not less.

But I've yet to see that that's what's happening.
prove it prove he wants MORE land and cheaper houses

https://twitter.com/ExileGrimm/status/1491496240214913029

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Guide
02/11/22 5:21:42 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Fair, next

yeah can't argue with those details

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CyricZ
02/11/22 5:24:34 PM
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AceMos posted...
prove it prove he wants MORE land and cheaper houses
Well that's what I'm saying. There's no evidence of that. None that I've seen yet anyway.

Here and in other topics we get people being all NIMBY about this, then the additional info comes out and now suddenly people are switching gears to "well it's a crap allotment of affordable housing" as justification for opposing this.

Sounds a bit sus.

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Oubliettes
02/11/22 5:26:46 PM
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Yellow Springs is a tiny (literally a little over 2 square miles) hippy/new age community (we're talking crystals and essential oil stores, hiking trails, etc.) in the fuckin middle of a bunch of farm land and a state park. Not sure what good affordable housing would do anyone out there. Think the biggest employer out there is the new age college, but I think they might have closed.

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BilalPowell
02/11/22 5:43:02 PM
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Homeowners don't want "affordable housing" in their neighborhoods. Ruins their property value.

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AceMos
02/11/22 5:45:45 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

ok then why is he not pushing for cheaper housing

why is his only concern how it would effect the value of his property

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Guide
02/11/22 6:07:33 PM
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AceMos posted...
why is his only concern how it would effect the value of his property
i ain't seeing that tho

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Solid Snake07
02/13/22 1:16:04 PM
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Jumping to conclusions: the topic

this was not an affordable housing project. It was a real estate development that involved a piece of land to be set aside for development of affordable housing at a later date.

but I guess Dave Chapelle hates the poor is a better headline so fuck any other context.

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Cocytus
02/13/22 1:17:19 PM
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Fuck Dave Chappelle.
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professor_jack
02/13/22 8:19:18 PM
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It's a 53-acre proposal with "1.75 acres to be donated to the community for affordable housing to be built later."

That's 3.3% "affordable housing to be built later"

And the proposal, as far as I can see, does not build any of the affordable housing, just donates the land as some kind of tax write-off for the 96.7% non-affordable suburban sprawl development.

Framing this as "Dave Chappelle is against affordable housing." is either ignorant or bad faith.

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Scotty_Rogers
02/13/22 8:21:52 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Piece of shit human being a piece of shit, go figure


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professor_jack
02/13/22 8:22:38 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
but I guess Dave Chapelle hates the poor is a better headline so fuck any other context.


I'm am increasingly becoming aware of the proportion of people who react to topic titles and/or headlines as if they are gospel truth. These people seem borderline resentful of context.

I believe this comes from a social environment where people would rather react to 100 stories with the most surface reductive understanding of the stories than react to 5-10 stories with any sort of detailed understanding of the actual facts.

It does not reflect well for society, I blame mostly the business model of social media, not sure why it infects people on CE though since CE doesn't have the same incentive structure.

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SuperShake666
02/13/22 8:23:31 PM
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FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Off-topic, but what actually raises property value?

Rich white folks gentrifying a poor neighborhood.

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