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cjsdowg
02/04/22 4:05:58 PM
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Like people are like resigned for it to happen, since in our current system there isn't much we can do.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/04/22 4:06:47 PM
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Like what like are you like referring to

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theAteam
02/04/22 4:07:24 PM
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Almost half the country is cheering it on

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Solar_Crimson
02/04/22 4:07:50 PM
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We really only have two options:

  • Continue to vote in the other political party that has been mostly limp-dicked about holding the GOP accountable.
  • Outright armed rebellion against a party and its supporters who would marry their guns if they could.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/04/22 4:09:20 PM
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Things like redistributing incomes are ugly; poor conservatives don't want income to be redistributed, and basically, democracy dies when inequality is rampant.

Everyone knows this but it's probably too late. Wonder what the most recent post on r/latestagecapitalism is.

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EventualDecline
02/04/22 4:11:40 PM
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Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.

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Sackgurl
02/04/22 4:38:57 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Like what like are you like referring to

  • IL S.B. 2949, MA H. 762, MA H. 792, MA H. 812, MA H. 3878, MA H.D. 2559, MI S.B. 285, MI S.B. 303, NE L.R. 3CA, NY A.B. 4326, NY A.B. 4901, NY A.B. 8180, NY S.B. 1853, NY S.B. 6450, NY S.B. 7368, OH H.B. 387, PA H.B. 1300, PA H.B. 1334, PA H.B. 1800, PA H.B. 853, PA H.J.R. 1596, PA S.B. 422, PA S.J.R. 735, WI A.B. 201, WI A.B. 306, WI S.B. 204.
  • AZ S.C.R 1005, MO H.B. 1454, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 780, MO S.B. 861, MO S.B. 900, NH H.B. 1153, SC H.B. 4622.
  • SC H.B. 4622, NH H.B. 1153, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 900.
  • MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO H.B. 1454.
  • FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
  • FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
  • AZ H.B. 1003, AZ S.B. 1485, AZ S.B. 1819., AZ S.C.R. 1005, AZ H.B. 2720, AZ H.B. 2800, AZ H.B. 2826.
  • MI S.B. 277, MI S.B. 303, MI S.B. 304, MI H.B. 4966.
  • PA H.B. 1300.



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uwnim
02/04/22 4:41:08 PM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.
Open borders increase freedom. Thats pretty compatible with Democracy.

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s0nicfan
02/04/22 4:42:05 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
* IL S.B. 2949, MA H. 762, MA H. 792, MA H. 812, MA H. 3878, MA H.D. 2559, MI S.B. 285, MI S.B. 303, NE L.R. 3CA, NY A.B. 4326, NY A.B. 4901, NY A.B. 8180, NY S.B. 1853, NY S.B. 6450, NY S.B. 7368, OH H.B. 387, PA H.B. 1300, PA H.B. 1334, PA H.B. 1800, PA H.B. 853, PA H.J.R. 1596, PA S.B. 422, PA S.J.R. 735, WI A.B. 201, WI A.B. 306, WI S.B. 204.
* AZ S.C.R 1005, MO H.B. 1454, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 780, MO S.B. 861, MO S.B. 900, NH H.B. 1153, SC H.B. 4622.
* SC H.B. 4622, NH H.B. 1153, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 900.
* MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO H.B. 1454.
* FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
* FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
* AZ H.B. 1003, AZ S.B. 1485, AZ S.B. 1819., AZ S.C.R. 1005, AZ H.B. 2720, AZ H.B. 2800, AZ H.B. 2826.
* MI S.B. 277, MI S.B. 303, MI S.B. 304, MI H.B. 4966.
* PA H.B. 1300.

Uhh... I'm assuming this is a copy/paste of some kind, but I picked one at random from that list and it was a bill around late payments in housing parks from 2018.

NH H.B. 1484
https://legiscan.com/NH/text/HB1484/id/1656601
This bill requires that manufactured housing parks not charge a late fee for payments within 7 days of the due date. The bill also requires notice of early payment discounts and exceptions for tenants receiving monthly social security benefits.

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SOME of these are election related, but about half the ones I checked were random bullshit that had nothing to do with stealing democracy. Where did you even get this list from?

MO S.B. 695
https://www.senate.mo.gov/18info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=69471862
This act increases the membership on the Missouri State Capitol Commission from eleven to fifteen members, by adding four additional members of the general public with two appointed by the President Pro Tem of the Senate and two appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The membership of the Commission is also modified so that the minority leaders of the House and Senate will appoint the minority party members of the Commission.

SC H.B. 4622
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess121_2015-2016/bills/4622.htm
TO AMEND THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, BY ADDING CHAPTER 58 TO TITLE 48 SO AS TO ENACT THE ADVERTISING LITTER CONTROL ACT, TO CREATE A CIVIL PENALTY FOR A PERSON THAT DISTRIBUTES ADVERTISING MATTER AFTER BEING NOTIFIED TO CEASE DISTRIBUTION TO A CERTAIN ADDRESS, TO DEFINE THE TERM ADVERTISING MATTER, AND TO ESTABLISH FURTHER PENALTIES FOR FAILURE TO PAY CIVIL FINES.

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ScazarMeltex
02/04/22 4:42:11 PM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.
Luckily there hasn't been any election fraud and we don't have open borders.

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Antifar
02/04/22 4:42:36 PM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.
20 year old account with 7 years worth of karma

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Lost_All_Senses
02/04/22 4:43:47 PM
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With Democrats help

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uwnim
02/04/22 4:44:43 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Luckily there hasn't been any election fraud and we don't have open borders.
Theres always some election fraud, but not enough to be worth worrying about most of the time. A couple people voting for their dead relative is irrelevant.

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divot1338
02/04/22 4:48:13 PM
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I propose we start calling them banana republicans.

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Sackgurl
02/04/22 5:01:02 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
SOME of these are election related, but about half the ones I checked were random bulls*** that had nothing to do with stealing democracy. Where did you even get this list from?

you're clicking links to bills from the wrong year. state houses use the same numbers for different bills from different years. all the bills i listed are for either the current or last session.

source is the brennan center

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Sackgurl
02/04/22 5:03:29 PM
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s0nicfan posted...


MO S.B. 695
https://www.senate.mo.gov/18info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=69471862
This act increases the membership on the Missouri State Capitol Commission from eleven to fifteen members, by adding four additional members of the general public with two appointed by the President Pro Tem of the Senate and two appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The membership of the Commission is also modified so that the minority leaders of the House and Senate will appoint the minority party members of the Commission.

Effective Date:August 28, 2018

https://www.senate.mo.gov/22info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=71260292

Effective Date:
August 28, 2022

as an example

i suggest you add "election" to each individual search

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s0nicfan
02/04/22 5:03:33 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
you're clicking links to bills from the wrong year. state houses use the same numbers for different bills from different years. all the bills i listed are for either the current or last session.

source is the brennan center

Ah okay. That clarifies so much.

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/22 5:03:33 PM
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Would be cool if there was an opposing party to fight against them.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/04/22 5:05:54 PM
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So are the 2022 and 2024 election results legitimate or naw?

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HannaMontana
02/04/22 5:07:15 PM
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Democracy is as safe as its ever been lol. What you talking about willis!!
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DirkDiggles
02/04/22 5:08:44 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
* IL S.B. 2949, MA H. 762, MA H. 792, MA H. 812, MA H. 3878, MA H.D. 2559, MI S.B. 285, MI S.B. 303, NE L.R. 3CA, NY A.B. 4326, NY A.B. 4901, NY A.B. 8180, NY S.B. 1853, NY S.B. 6450, NY S.B. 7368, OH H.B. 387, PA H.B. 1300, PA H.B. 1334, PA H.B. 1800, PA H.B. 853, PA H.J.R. 1596, PA S.B. 422, PA S.J.R. 735, WI A.B. 201, WI A.B. 306, WI S.B. 204.
* AZ S.C.R 1005, MO H.B. 1454, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 780, MO S.B. 861, MO S.B. 900, NH H.B. 1153, SC H.B. 4622.
* SC H.B. 4622, NH H.B. 1153, MO S.B. 633, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO S.B. 738, MO S.B. 900.
* MO S.B. 670, MO S.B. 668, MO S.B. 679, MO S.B. 695, MO H.B. 1454.
* FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
* FL H.B. 99, MO S.B. 695, NH H.B. 1473, NH H.B. 1484, SC H.B. 4550, SC H.J.R. 4551, TN S.B. 1657.
* AZ H.B. 1003, AZ S.B. 1485, AZ S.B. 1819., AZ S.C.R. 1005, AZ H.B. 2720, AZ H.B. 2800, AZ H.B. 2826.
* MI S.B. 277, MI S.B. 303, MI S.B. 304, MI H.B. 4966.
* PA H.B. 1300.

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Ruvan22
02/04/22 5:10:43 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
So are the 2022 and 2024 election results legitimate or naw?

You do realize elections can be unethically swayed without fraud, right?
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/04/22 5:13:05 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
You do realize elections can be unethically swayed without fraud, right?

The topic title has the word steal, which means not legal

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masterpug53
02/04/22 5:13:16 PM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.

It's funny because the second thing you mentioned is the only group that believes the first is a problem, or that the third actually happened in 2020.

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Bishop9800
02/04/22 5:18:32 PM
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divot1338 posted...
I propose we start calling them banana republicans.


I second this.......

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Sackgurl
02/04/22 5:33:05 PM
#26:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
So are the 2022 and 2024 election results legitimate or naw?

well the 2024 election hasn't happened yet, but the 2022 election results (at least on the federal level) appear to have been legitimate in spite of the state legislature efforts by republicans to rig their contests

i think it would not be a stretch to say that the state legislature elections in a large number of republican dominated states are not legitimate, however. they don't just set districts for their federal representatives, but also for themselves, so republican state legislatures can pick their own voters and cement permanent control of their legislature. state constitutions haven't been updated to prevent the techniques they're putting into place.

hence the cheating accusations: "We cheated, and still lost?! They must have cheated even MORE!"

anyway i answered your question so please do not pretend in the future that there are not ongoing efforts on the state level to disenfranchise voters

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EventualDecline
02/04/22 6:00:30 PM
#27:


uwnim posted...
Open borders increase freedom.


Not sure I follow your pretzel logic, but either way, open borders is illegal. So I guess Republicans can do illegal stuff also. Who are you to judge, when youre already on record supporting illegal activity?


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EventualDecline
02/04/22 6:01:24 PM
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Antifar posted...
20 year old account with 7 years worth of karma

So you think more karma = good? Yeah, thats not how it works, bud.


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EventualDecline
02/04/22 6:03:25 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
It's funny because the second thing you mentioned is the only group that believes the first is a problem, or that the third actually happened in 2020.

So youre saying that only Republicans are illiterate? Interesting. So all immigrants to the U.S. are capable of reading and writing in English? I doubt that spurious claim will hold up in court.


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Eramir
02/04/22 6:09:24 PM
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How much did you pay for that GameFAQs @EventualDecline , Tails?

We know you bought that account lmao
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EventualDecline
02/04/22 6:13:26 PM
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Eramir posted...
How much did you pay for that GameFAQs @EventualDecline , Tails?

We know you bought that account lmao

No idea who tails is, but gamefaqs is probably the only forum on the internet where most users think that nearly every account that disagrees with them is an alt. Thats a bizarre, and uniquely gamefaqs thing.

Also, do you have a rebuttal to anything I said, bro?


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Antifar
02/04/22 6:27:23 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

For instance, imagine how this country would be if we treated inter-state borders the way we treat our border with Mexico.

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Bishop9800
02/04/22 8:30:07 PM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure how democracy is supposed to work with open borders, a dumbed-down illiterate populace, and election fraud. Explain it to me.


What election fraud? Care to explain?

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angeleyes94
02/04/22 9:07:06 PM
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EventualDecline posted...


No idea who tails is, but gamefaqs is probably the only forum on the internet where most users think that nearly every account that disagrees with them is an alt. Thats a bizarre, and uniquely gamefaqs thing.

Also, do you have a rebuttal to anything I said, bro?



Sure, whatever you say Tails.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/04/22 9:11:47 PM
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lol Tails

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CableZL
02/04/22 9:12:04 PM
#37:


Bishop9800 posted...
What election fraud? Care to explain?
  • Trump pressured the Georgia secretary of state to manufacture votes for him
  • Rudy Giuliani lead the effort to sent fraudulent electors to the states Trump lost in attempt to get the states to elect Trump any way.

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Bishop9800
02/04/22 10:44:44 PM
#38:


CableZL posted...
* Trump pressured the Georgia secretary of state to manufacture votes for him
* Rudy Giuliani lead the effort to sent fraudulent electors to the states Trump lost in attempt to get the states to elect Trump any way.

care to comment @EventualDecline

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nexigrams
02/04/22 10:51:30 PM
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It's always been a sham, people are just tired of pretending. I'm convinced the entirety of Republican working class support comes from people who know exactly what they're doing, but don't give a shit because either way nothing changes and they're always gonna work 70 hours a week for not enough money to make ends meet. So they're trolling. They're doing it to, "own the libs." Tear it all down, it's a joke anyways. Might as well have some fun at the expense of people who take themselves too seriously on the way down.

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EventualDecline
02/05/22 12:13:03 AM
#40:


CableZL posted...
* Trump pressured the Georgia secretary of state to manufacture votes for him
* Rudy Giuliani lead the effort to sent fraudulent electors to the states Trump lost in attempt to get the states to elect Trump any way.

So now voter fraud suddenly exists, as long as its the kind that you believe exists and wont get you modded? Ok. Also, as Trump said at the time, the Georgia secretary of state didnt address or respond to any of the election fraud claims that Trump brought to him. He just said that that theyre not true, without proving anything. Thats why Trump was talking to him the way he was.

As for Giuliani, what about the Republican vote counting observers who werent allowed to watch the votes being counted?

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EventualDecline
02/05/22 12:15:20 AM
#41:


Bishop9800 posted...
care to comment @EventualDecline

Suspiciously, you didnt call out @uwnim and @masterpug53 for not responding to me. Its almost like you didnt care if they responded to me, but felt that Im somehow obligated to respond to you.

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uwnim
02/05/22 12:18:56 AM
#42:


Wait, what.

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Bishop9800
02/05/22 12:32:09 AM
#43:


EventualDecline posted...
Suspiciously, you didnt call out @uwnim and @masterpug53 for not responding to me. Its almost like you didnt care if they responded to me, but felt that Im somehow obligated to respond to you.

nice cop out......

Also they did respond to you. You're the one who claiming there;s wide spread voter fraud but cant prove it.

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Ruvan22
02/05/22 12:37:33 AM
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EventualDecline posted...
So now voter fraud suddenly exists, as long as its the kind that you believe exists and wont get you modded? Ok. Also, as Trump said at the time, the Georgia secretary of state didnt address or respond to any of the election fraud claims that Trump brought to him. He just said that that theyre not true, without proving anything. Thats why Trump was talking to him the way he was.

As for Giuliani, what about the Republican vote counting observers who werent allowed to watch the votes being counted?

A) Nobody said it existed, Trump and company kept saying it did without proof
B) Trump's specific language was "I just need you to find me some votes" - that is NOT bringing claims. While Trump DID make allegations of fraud, he didn't want to provide any proof AND the allegations brought by his lawyers were found to not have merit.
C) So are you saying it was OK for Guilani to send fake electors?
D) The Republican observers WERE allowed to watch, just not in the way THEY wanted, but according to existing regulation (same as Democrat observers)
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catboy2
02/05/22 12:38:44 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Would be cool if there was an opposing party to fight against them.

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uwnim
02/05/22 12:47:09 AM
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EventualDecline posted...
Not sure I follow your pretzel logic, but either way, open borders is illegal. So I guess Republicans can do illegal stuff also. Who are you to judge, when youre already on record supporting illegal activity?
Open borders aren't illegal. If a country wants open borders they can do so. Some countries already have partially open borders.

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CableZL
02/05/22 3:28:00 AM
#47:


EventualDecline posted...
So now voter fraud suddenly exists, as long as its the kind that you believe exists and wont get you modded?
We know voter fraud exists. It just doesn't happen on a widespread scale like Trump is claiming. Multiple people have been caught because they voted twice in the 2020 election.

EventualDecline posted...
Ok. Also, as Trump said at the time, the Georgia secretary of state didnt address or respond to any of the election fraud claims that Trump brought to him. He just said that that theyre not true, without proving anything. Thats why Trump was talking to him the way he was.

That's a blatant lie and you know it. Georgia did multiple recounts. Also, voting machines have paper trails, so it's not like the vote tallies that they report aren't verifiable.

EventualDecline posted...
As for Giuliani, what about the Republican vote counting observers who werent allowed to watch the votes being counted?
This is another falsehood. Vote counting observers from both parties were absolutely allowed to watch the votes being counted. These people are identified, registered, and verified to be watchers well ahead of time. The people who weren't allowed in were just random Trump supporters who were throwing hissy fits because they were mad that the votes were [still being counted | finished being counted].

Trump was demanding that states stop counting votes when he was winning, and he was demanding that states keep counting votes where he was losing. His dumb supporters followed right in line and demanded both simultaneously in different areas.

Just like the electors. Members of the electoral college in each state are identified well in advance of an election. You can't just show up at the doorstep with forged paperwork and claim to be an elector.

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pegusus123456
02/05/22 3:46:59 AM
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CableZL posted...
We know voter fraud exists. It just doesn't happen on a widespread scale like Trump is claiming. Multiple people have been caught because they voted twice in the 2020 election.
For Trump lmao

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Maninstagnate
02/05/22 6:00:08 AM
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Democrats really haven't done anything about it. Feel far less free now a days than ever and they are the ones in charge.
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angeleyes94
02/05/22 7:30:39 AM
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Repubs can never win again lost a lot of their base due to covid misinformation.

Dreamers and existing dreamers are finally getting a chance to vote for the country they work so hard in.

Maybe a new party will form once repubs collapse. They either have to get with the times or fade away into obscurity.

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