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masterpug53
01/14/22 12:31:29 PM
#52:


OudeGeuze posted...
People who defend TLJ can't explain why it's good and instead just tell people that don't like it they have bad opinions and no taste.

I don't really have a horse in the TLJ race, so instead I'll frame my response to the above mentality around my preferred horserace, the Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas debate:

A Poster: 'So what exactly makes New Vegas so much better than Fallout 3?'
Me: *makes lengthy, detailed posts comparing the two, cites wikis to back up claims, to illustrate why I love and praise New Vegas while being immensely disappointed with 3. Gets ignored.*

(some time passes)

A Poster: "Can someone explain to me what makes New Vegas so much better than Fallout 3?"
Me: *makes lengthy, detailed posts comparing the two, cites wikis to back up claims. Gets ignored.*

(some time passes)

A Poster: "Can someone please explain why New Vegas gets all this hype over Fallout 3?"
Me: "Y'know, it's getting harder and harder to find the motivation to explain this over and over again. Here's a couple two-hour videos that pretty much cover the points I was gonna make."
A Poster: "Lol fuck off, I'm not watching that."

(some time passes)

A Bellend: "God why does no one ever bother to explain why they like New Vegas so much?"
Me: "Y'know, it's easier to just write you off as a cretin and go about my day."

(some time passes)

A Donny, Who Like a Child Wandering Into the Middle of a Movie Should Probably Shut the Fuck Up: "People who defend New Vegas can't explain why it's good and instead just tell people that don't like it they have bad opinions and no taste."
Me: "..."

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OudeGeuze
01/14/22 12:33:02 PM
#53:


masterpug53 posted...
I don't really have a horse in the TLJ race, so instead I'll describe my take on this phenomenon with my preferred horserace, the Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas debate:

Someone: 'So what exactly makes New Vegas so much better than Fallout 3?'
Me: *makes lengthy, detailed posts comparing the two, cites wikis to back up claims, to illustrate why I love and praise New Vegas while being immensely disappointed with 3. Gets ignored.*
(some time passes)
Someone: "Can someone explain to me what makes New Vegas so much better than Fallout 3?"
Me: *makes lengthy, detailed posts comparing the two, cites wikis to back up claims. Gets ignored.*
(some time passes)
Someone: "Can someone please explain why New Vegas gets all this hype over Fallout 3?"
Me: "Y'know, it's getting harder and harder to find the motivation to explain this over and over again. Here's a couple two-hour videos that pretty much cover the points I was gonna make."
Someone: "Lol fuck off, I'm not watching that."
(some time passes)
A Bellend: "God why does no one ever bother to explain why they like New Vegas so much?"
Me: "Y'know, it's easier to just write you off as a cretin and go about my day."
(some time passes)
A Donny, Who Like a Child Wandering Into the Middle of a Movie Should Probably Shut the Fuck Up: "People who defend New Vegas can't explain why it's good and instead just tell people that don't like it they have bad opinions and no taste."
Me: "..."
tbh fallout NV is objectively good and 3 is objectively donkey piss
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CyricZ
01/14/22 12:49:43 PM
#54:


OudeGeuze posted...
tbh fallout NV is objectively good and 3 is objectively donkey piss
Meaning what in the context of this discussion.

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YellowSUV
01/14/22 12:54:04 PM
#55:


Kuuko posted...
To be fair I dislike all of the sequel trilogy movies for different reasons.

This. They all have a unique flavor of being bad

Force Awakens - Just a rehash of the original Star Wars

Last Jedi - Shits on established lore and "subverts expectations" just because

Rise of Skywalker - Just a bad movie and the plot seems like it was written as a terrible fanfiction

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/14/22 12:55:25 PM
#56:


CyricZ posted...
I did explain myself.

Like four years ago.

I'm kinda sick of it.
This. I'm not doing it anymore, lol. I enjoyed the first genuinely good Star Wars movies since 1980 for the same reasons now as I did back then.

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OudeGeuze
01/14/22 1:05:52 PM
#57:


CyricZ posted...
Meaning what in the context of this discussion.
I did explain myself.

Like four years ago.

I'm kinda sick of it.
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CyricZ
01/14/22 1:07:43 PM
#58:


OudeGeuze posted...
I did explain myself.

Like four years ago.

I'm kinda sick of it.
If you're sick of it, maybe you should shut up about demanding things from other people who are sick of it.

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electricbugs2
01/14/22 1:16:21 PM
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As someone who likes every Star Wars related movie, even the shitty TV ones with Wilford Brimley, the weirdest thing to me about TLJ hate is the difference between the internet and IRL.

My good friend is a huge SW nerd and while TLJ is his least favourite of the main 9, he openly mocks people who think its the worst thing ever. Most people Ive met in person like it to some degree and just see it as another SW movie.

It only seems to be on the internet that people turn into rabid dogs over TLJ.

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Veggeta_MAX
01/14/22 1:38:11 PM
#61:


If you don't hate Star Wars then you ain't a real fan.

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Zeeak4444
01/14/22 3:08:36 PM
#62:


They should have stuck to one offs like rogue one and Solo.

both infinitely better than any of the ST

Shablagoo posted...
It has a 91% score on Rotten Tomatoes lol

yup, 91% off a whopping 483 critic reviews.

and a 42% with 100,000+ user reviews.

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InhumaneRaider
01/14/22 3:10:34 PM
#63:


Hot take (or maybe not)...but if it was a standalone movie, it'd probably the best Star Wars film we got in this past decade.

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COVxy
01/14/22 3:27:46 PM
#64:


Zeeak4444 posted...
yup, 91% off a whopping 483 critic reviews.

and a 42% with 100,000+ user reviews.

Hmm, let's look at another example where such a discrepancy exists:
https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii

I wonder...

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Xethuminra
01/14/22 3:41:16 PM
#65:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Imagine reading star war books.
I was just thinking the same thing.

What's interesting about Star Wars is the visual element + music
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au_gold
01/14/22 3:43:55 PM
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https://youtu.be/xQsOVYyXSnU

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TheOtherMike
01/14/22 3:46:25 PM
#67:


Haven't seen it. I watched TFA, literally couldn't remember anything about it a week later because it was so forgettable, and haven't bothered with any of the others since. As far as I'm concerned there are still only 3 SW movies.
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ChocoboMogALT
01/14/22 3:47:56 PM
#68:


InhumaneRaider posted...
Hot take (or maybe not)...but if it was a standalone movie, it'd probably the best Star Wars film we got in this past decade.
That's what I keep saying. I just rewatched the whole (main) series and The Clone Wars is by far the worst, with Phantom Menace short behind.
If you want to say the new trilogy has the worst story, fine. But saying TLJ is the worst movie, you're just wrong. The prequels had a story that surprisingly held up, but theyre mired in so much childish shit the movies don't work as movies. IMO, if your worried about the story of a children's space fantasy just read a book.

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Southernfatman
01/14/22 3:54:43 PM
#69:


Some people go on too much about hating it and act like jerks. Some on the other side act like jerks and act like everyone who doesn't like it is just stupid and are just fanboys who are mad that that it's different.

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/14/22 3:56:41 PM
#70:


COVxy posted...
Hmm, let's look at another example where such a discrepancy exists:
https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii

I wonder...
More pointedly, the IMDB rating for Last Jedi is a 6.9, with over 600,000 ratings. Its clear that there is a genuine mixture of reception for the movie, but IMDB is a more popular site than Rotten Tomatoes and its just a lot harder for g*mers to game the system for sincerely popular fare, unlike more niche and politically oriented fare like I Am Greta, or Dinesh D'Souza films.

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OudeGeuze
01/14/22 3:56:49 PM
#71:


Southernfatman posted...
act like everyone who doesn't like it is just stupid and are just fanboys who are mad that that it's different.
Which describes pretty much everyone defending the movie itt
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Master_Bass
01/14/22 3:58:48 PM
#72:


I think it's the best movie of that trilogy, but I do wish Luke was handled differently and the Jedi in general. I can appreciate some of what was done with Luke, though.

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Tropicalwood
01/14/22 4:04:06 PM
#73:


King0fSTL posted...
Imagine being so mad about a fantasy movie.
Space Fantasy to be specific. Since the Force is a fantasy element and not sciense fiction.

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legendarylemur
01/14/22 4:12:08 PM
#74:


I actually like the first half of TLJ. It's just the last half that's just flat out baffling

But out of the new trilogy, in hindsight it's the best one. Not really saying much cuz the other 2 are disasters. The 7th movie being a disaster mostly in hindsight because they just copied off the 1st movie without much of a plan

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Smackems
01/14/22 4:20:55 PM
#75:


I don't like the movie at all. But I ain't mad about it lol

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/14/22 5:41:14 PM
#76:


tbh, i thought Rise of the Skywalker was way worse. it's like they elevated the bullshit meter with that one...
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