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pogo_rabid
12/25/21 6:49:30 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/ro1rg9/breaking_news_steam_has_been_banned_in_china_the/

The store has been included in the "wall" list along with the community
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nfearurspecimn
12/25/21 7:04:32 AM
#2:


holy fucking shit

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Doom_Art
12/25/21 7:07:35 AM
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Good. Sick of Chinese nationalists review bombing shit on there

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Collat
12/25/21 7:18:22 AM
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Good.
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Kaiganeer
12/25/21 7:20:39 AM
#5:


this is actually good for the people that use steam
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Cheater87
12/25/21 7:21:03 AM
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Isn't there a special Chinese version of Steam coming out?

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ssjevot
12/25/21 7:28:40 AM
#7:


Cheater87 posted...
Isn't there a special Chinese version of Steam coming out?

There already is one. But no one in China uses it because it has almost no games in it. The Switch is the same thing, no one in China wants an actual Chinese Switch because it has shit for games. PS4 you can just switch your store region. My wife had a Hong Kong Switch and PS4, and her Steam account is somehow set to China but not the Chinese client (this is what most people are doing, it's very weird that they get away with just explicitly having a Chinese region for the international client). You need a VPN for all of them though, always have.

The important thing here is you are already playing Steam/PSN/Switch/whatever online games with people using a VPN to get around the firewall. Chinese gamers were never on international servers legally to begin with and this changes nothing. They will just continue using VPNs.

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Jiggy101011
12/25/21 7:38:52 AM
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Why is this a good thing?

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mattfrank
12/25/21 7:44:27 AM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
Why is this a good thing?

Chinese/China bad.

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ssjevot
12/25/21 7:45:55 AM
#10:


Jiggy101011 posted...
Why is this a good thing?

People think it will somehow make the Chinese people they play against online who are using VPNs stop playing for some reason. The reason they don't want to play with Chinese people is because xenophobia. They will respond with some stereotype like Chinese cheat, as though every Chinese gamer is cheating. This is considered socially acceptable.

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iPhone_7
12/25/21 7:54:51 AM
#11:


Its the Russians that are cheaters in multiplayer. They have made GTA online on PC such a horrible experience. Live-editing the map, dropping planes everywhere, joining a server only to get repeatedly killed and unable to even make it out of the garage. Its the one game where theyve really pissed me off. Pc master race

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MedeaLysistrata
12/25/21 10:02:50 AM
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Why is this a big deal to Americans? Silly Q

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hockeybub89
12/25/21 10:15:46 AM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Why is this a big deal to Americans? Silly Q
"Why is oppression and censorship a big deal if it's not personally affecting you?"

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Dingydang166
12/25/21 10:23:56 AM
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Ban em from everything else too. No more chinese gold farmers/account boosters in MMOs would be heaven. Then let's do the same to Brazil and we can enter The Golden Age.
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nfearurspecimn
12/25/21 10:24:19 AM
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Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.

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MedeaLysistrata
12/25/21 10:29:51 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Why is oppression and censorship a big deal if it's not personally affecting you?"
They targeted gamers... So it kind of is affecting you

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Dakimakura
12/25/21 10:30:17 AM
#17:


nfearurspecimn posted...
Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.

Steam isn't that good

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CountDog
12/25/21 10:36:11 AM
#18:


Here's china's steam store. Is it actually using steam. Or is it a knock off?

https://store.steamchina.com/

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Gamerguymass
12/25/21 10:41:51 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.

The idea would be the more shit the CCP bans the more likely the Chinese people would get sick of it and increasing the chances they would be willing to stand up to them.

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Jagr_68
12/25/21 10:43:42 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Isn't there a special Chinese version of Steam coming out?

Epic Store

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kingdrake2
12/25/21 10:57:33 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
dropping planes everywhere on players


damn.

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R_Jackal
12/25/21 11:08:03 AM
#22:


ssjevot posted...
People think it will somehow make the Chinese people they play against online who are using VPNs stop playing for some reason. The reason they don't want to play with Chinese people is because xenophobia. They will respond with some stereotype like Chinese cheat, as though every Chinese gamer is cheating. This is considered socially acceptable.
It's mostly Russians that get that cheating thing thrown at them(as mentioned in this topic, there is a reason for that and it is GTA V). The "ban Chinese" thing is mostly because of the review bombing and there have been some games outright bullied off Steam and in some case lag(PUBG at its height was the biggest example of this) and the general bad rep from MMOs, but MMO communities tend to be super fucking toxic to everything.

But yeah, this is being cheered and it really shouldn't be. Mostly because it's not solving anything and just making things worse for others.
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Pogo_Marimo
12/25/21 11:12:21 AM
#23:


Dakimakura posted...
Steam isn't that good
Out of your god damn mind.

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SauI_Goodman
12/25/21 11:15:56 AM
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Is it because its a way for the outaide world to communicate with china? And big brother doesnt want that.

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MedeaLysistrata
12/25/21 11:16:05 AM
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It wasn't banned I guess

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nfearurspecimn
12/25/21 11:21:29 AM
#26:


Gamerguymass posted...
The idea would be the more shit the CCP bans the more likely the Chinese people would get sick of it and increasing the chances they would be willing to stand up to them.
you think so? I don't

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kingdrake2
12/25/21 12:05:20 PM
#27:


nfearurspecimn posted...
you think so? I don't


i agree with him. it's a form of control (the iron grip on the populace) and the citizens cant do a thing about it.

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BlackOmnimon
12/25/21 12:34:09 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
you think so? I don't

Gamers rise up

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GameGodOfAll
12/25/21 12:35:49 PM
#29:


Fuck 'em.

Sell Devotion now you cowards.

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Collat
12/25/21 1:37:33 PM
#30:


nfearurspecimn posted...
Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.

Pretty sure they got real problems to worry about.

ssjevot posted...
The reason they don't want to play with Chinese people is because xenophobia.

Pull your head out of your ass.
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Kloe_Rinz
12/25/21 10:48:42 PM
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The more we cut off China the better. Less reliance on them is good. Its unfortunate for the Chinese people, but the CCP truly needs to get fucked and disappear.
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Wedge Antilles
12/25/21 10:59:35 PM
#32:


ssjevot posted...
People think it will somehow make the Chinese people they play against online who are using VPNs stop playing for some reason. The reason they don't want to play with Chinese people is because xenophobia. They will respond with some stereotype like Chinese cheat, as though every Chinese gamer is cheating. This is considered socially acceptable.

I played a lot of PUBG over the years and your comment reminded me of this.

https://dotesports.com/pubg/news/pubg-99-percent-cheaters-from-china-21147

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Very_Unreliable
12/25/21 11:03:15 PM
#33:


ssjevot posted...
They will respond with some stereotype like Chinese cheat, as though every Chinese gamer is cheating. This is considered socially acceptable.

I have literally NEVER heard anyone say this and I think you've said this and are just projecting. I've marked all of your posts.

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Maeiv
12/25/21 11:06:29 PM
#34:


Isnt Dota 2 huge in China?

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ModLogic
12/25/21 11:06:36 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its unfortunate for the Chinese people
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OudeGeuze
12/25/21 11:20:16 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.
"Now"?
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AngusBurner
12/25/21 11:31:18 PM
#37:


So what is China's actual aim with banning.... quite literally everything? Eventually there will be no entertainment left to ban. Is this what they want? Just work work work work till you drop? Sucks if so.
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TrowaBarton7
12/25/21 11:33:03 PM
#38:


The original message on that Reddit post was deleted by the moderators.

More fake news about China?

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ssjevot
12/25/21 11:36:06 PM
#39:


Very_Unreliable posted...
I have literally NEVER heard anyone say this and I think you've said this and are just projecting. I've marked all of your posts.

The reddit post was literally flooded with comments like that.

And again no one has ever played with Chinese players using the Chinese version of Steam, because it doesn't have any of the games you are playing against Chinese people on. You are playing with them on the international version that they use a VPN to access and nothing will change that outside of them actually finding (and wanting to) a way to completely eliminate VPN usage.

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pogo_rabid
12/26/21 2:17:26 AM
#40:


Wedge Antilles posted...
I played a lot of PUBG over the years and your comment reminded me of this.

https://dotesports.com/pubg/news/pubg-99-percent-cheaters-from-china-21147
The funny part is, the pubg dev was claiming that people who wanted region locking were just xenophobic and there was no proof of the cheats coming from china beforehand. I'm glad pubg died down in popularity, shit dev and a shit game that didn't deserve it's success.

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Tyranthraxus
12/26/21 2:47:32 AM
#41:


I don't know about cheaters but basically all those fucking MMO spammers are Chinese. When Sega blocked Chinese IP addresses from accessing PSO JP the spamming vanished overnight. Never really saw a problem with cheating in online games. I don't think it's as common as people say it is. New accounts are likely to get matched with other new accounts in online games so you'll see the cheaters before the built in cheat detection systems gets around to banning them.

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MedeaLysistrata
12/26/21 2:50:43 AM
#42:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
The more we cut off China the better. Less reliance on them is good. Its unfortunate for the Chinese people, but the CCP truly needs to get fucked and disappear.
Noooo don't

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solosnake
12/26/21 3:04:32 AM
#43:


Epic Game Store:

Check Mate

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MrMallard
12/26/21 3:21:19 AM
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I'm surprised it took this long, because apparently the Tencent launcher has been fucking massive in China the past few years.

China wants to control information and communication, Steam is an American company where their juristiction over data doesn't apply. Tencent is a Chinese business which means that the CCP can take as much information as they can and monitor everything, because a part of being a business in China is agreeing to terms that give the CCP that level of involvement.

Not only that, but the gaming market is worth billions in China. Their gaming revenue last year was $43 billion, compared with America's $36 billion. Sources - https://www.statista.com/statistics/322200/video-game-revenue-in-china/, https://www.statista.com/statistics/500070/gaming-revenue-north-america/

I'll admit that that's a smaller gap than I was expecting, but regardless.

With Steam, Chinese developers and companies - whose sales may or may not be subsequently taxed by the CCP - share revenue with Steam due to the platform taking a cut. So by limiting the market to a single local platform, more money stays in China and the yearly revenue will almost certainly increase.

So for both the control of information that China is known for, and for the sake of video game profits in a $43 billion market, I can see why China would ban Steam and go all-in on the Tencent launcher.

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Jx1010
12/26/21 3:27:12 AM
#45:


nfearurspecimn posted...
Why are people saying good? Living in China is hell now.
Why u say that?

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ModLogic
12/26/21 3:56:09 AM
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cuz the zenz told him to

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pogo_rabid
12/26/21 4:04:04 AM
#47:


MrMallard posted...
Steam is an American company where their juristiction over data doesn't apply.
I think the takeaway from this is, whatever western based company continues to have their launcher allowed to operated in mainland china is directly working with the CCP.

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legendarylemur
12/26/21 6:21:14 AM
#48:


At one point people gotta realize how much bad comes with associating with the ccp. No matter how much brainwashing there is, there has to be a threshold where you gotta think ok... wtf is this

China loses one game after another and then just replaces the last thing with a significantly inferior copy that lacks any soul of the original. They also don't exactly create any games that the western or non-chinese eastern parts of the world absolutely wants over everything. Some degens will say Jensen Impact, but lol... not only is it not really that good of a game overall, there are already superior alternatives everywhere if you're willing to look. But it's a babby's first gacha for a lot of ppl so they're too addicted to quit. I say that as a gacha addict myself and am in full awareness of everything that's happening and the reasons for them.

Anyways lol get fucked ccp shills. World ain't exactly that fancy without video games

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Kloe_Rinz
12/26/21 6:51:39 AM
#49:


ModLogic posted...
he says as he votes for his best bud pauline hanson while shouting ONE NATION
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ModLogic
12/26/21 6:52:13 AM
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clearly the west proves otherwise

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