Current Events > The modern day shit in Assassin's Creed needs to stop

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It's so god damn boring, takes you out of the main game, and oh my god does it SUUUUUUUUCK

Just do historical games without this filler. I get it, it's part of the games' DNA and past. But it's time to laser out this particular gene

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I would've been for it if they didn't completely ruin the modern stuff around III. It was definitely building up to a full blown modern Assassin's Creed. So much for that.

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If they had led up to some climactic modern day battle, it might have been worth it. But it doesn't sound like they ever did. I have this idea for a final AC game where the past is Adam and Eve, the first Assassins, and the modern setting is about the final apocalyptic battle between Assassins and Templar

Are they still doing that. I thought they would have gotten rid of that shit awhile ago after everyone got tired of it and they killed Desmond off

The only AssCreed I ever completed was the first one. I remember there being tons of hype around the game, then one of the trailers or something hinted at the modern day/sci-fi stuff and everyone who was hoping for a straight up historical game got pissed.

Axiom posted...

Are they still doing that. I thought they would have gotten rid of that shit awhile ago after everyone got tired of it and they killed Desmond off

Yeah except Desmond is actually alive now or something... but in like a computer program? Who knows.

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Imagine asscreed gameplay but with the watchdogs hacking stuff

hnnngg

Fuck the lore. They just shove this crap in every one of them. They've even shortened the sections now to the point that they may as well not be there

because they shouldn't

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

Imagine asscreed gameplay but with the watchdogs hacking stuff

hnnngg

I would hate that shit

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I got about an hour in to the very first AC

didn't like the modern stuff

noped out

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LanHikari10 posted...

Yeah except Desmond is actually alive now or something... but in like a computer program? Who knows.

Lol of course. I groaned every time you were pulled out and had a section of just walking and listening but at least they tried to build something with him. I feel like they probably want to get rid of it but don't know how

Smackems posted...

Fuck the lore. They just shove this crap in every one of them. They've even shortened the sections now to the point that they may as well not be there

because they shouldn't

Yeah, I've been playing through Valhalla...definitely happy that they're practically non-existent now

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The first AC game I fully played through was 4 and the modern day stuff was kinda bland. Then I Played Origins and decided to go through the whole series... really got invested into the modern day lore and loved it until I finished 3 and realized they just abandoned it all.

Actually I am really glad they revisited the plot starting with Valhalla.


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LanHikari10 posted...

I would've been for it if they didn't completely ruin the modern stuff around III. It was definitely building up to a full blown modern Assassin's Creed. So much for that.

I felt exactly the same throughout those first set of games, and I was excited for that game. I thought that would be what followed up 3.

I agree, but oddly enough there's a decent amount of the fanbase that likes the modern day sci fi bull shit. Yeah, I don't get it either. I absolutely fucking hate when almost everytime the story starts to get interesting they pull you out and completely stall the momentum.

I haven't played vahalla but odyssey and origins seemed to distance themselves from the modern stuff more than all the previous games. I'm not sure why they won't stop pussy footing about it and just cut it. They clearly don't know what to do with it and know a lot of fans aren't into it.

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JimmyFraska posted...

I felt exactly the same throughout those first set of games, and I was excited for that game. I thought that would be what followed up 3.

The even stupider thing is that, from what I understand, they ended up wrapping up everything about Juno, Minerva, etc in a comic book in between a couple of the games, so it didn't even get resolved in a way that most people will even experience.

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Darkninja42 posted...

The even stupider thing is that, from what I understand, they ended up wrapping up everything about Juno, Minerva, etc in a comic book in between a couple of the games, so it didn't even get resolved in a way that most people will even experience.

I remember when I first played Black Flag after 3, I was really confused by the modern day, first person, game developer bullshit.

I think it could still be cool, if they embraced more of the conspiracy war in the shadows kinda thing, but it may be too late now.

Zikten posted...

If they had led up to some climactic modern day battle, it might have been worth it. But it doesn't sound like they ever did. I have this idea for a final AC game where the past is Adam and Eve, the first Assassins, and the modern setting is about the final apocalyptic battle between Assassins and Templar

Yeah, that's what a lot of us were hoping for. Through the Bleeding Effect of the Animus, Desmond was slowly gaining abilities from his ancestors. The next logical step (we thought anyway), was to have him start assassinating the modern day Templars to try and stop their plans that way.

But after they killed Desmond I lost all interest in the modern day stuff.

LanHikari10 posted...

Yeah except Desmond is actually alive now or something... but in like a computer program? Who knows.

I'd heard a bit about this. I just bought Valhalla for $26, so I'll be learning more about that weirdness soon enough lol

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DuranOfForcena posted...

the modern day stuff was the best part of the narrative for me in the first few AC games, maybe up til Brotherhood or III. i'm sad to see so many people hate it.

It wasnt compelling to me at all. Although I wasnt interested in the MC of AC1 either. All I really cared for was Ezios story of vengeance. AC3 MC had an alright story as well

Sounds like the modern plot is too complicated for some people
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The first civilization stuff is cool though I'll say that. But just explore that without the modern bs

blablablax17 posted...

Sounds like the modern plot is too complicated for some people

The word you're looking for is lame

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LanHikari10 posted...

I would've been for it if they didn't completely ruin the modern stuff around III. It was definitely building up to a full blown modern Assassin's Creed. So much for that.

I didn't mind the modern day stuff in 1-3. 3 fucked up big time story wise tho. I felt like they broke up the gameplay well enough. Black Flag's was dumb and it was basically non-existent in the France one iirc (didn't beat it). Other than that, only played a little of Valhalla and it's pretty bad there too.

I don't think we'll ever get a modern day AssCreed game.
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blablablax17 posted...

Sounds like the modern plot is too complicated for some people

I can deal with complicated. But being simultaneously convoluted and uninteresting is a problem.

They also killed off the only two modern day characters that were developed and anyone cared about for shock twist endings like 10 years ago.

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Smashingpmkns posted...

I didn't mind the modern day stuff in 1-3. 3 fucked up big time story wise tho. I felt like they broke up the gameplay well enough. Black Flag's was dumb and it was basically non-existent in the France one iirc (didn't beat it). Other than that, only played a little of Valhalla and it's pretty bad there too.

I don't think we'll ever get a modern day AssCreed game.

Ironically, Valhalla is the most interesting it's been since 2 imo. But it still sucks buzzard ass

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Theres only been like a combined 20 min of modern day gameplay from the past three ac games tho

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it's getting too big for anything they could possibly deliver on, if it's going in the direction i think it's going, which is christianity

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viewmaster_pi posted...

it's getting too big for anything they could possibly deliver on, if it's going in the direction i think it's going, which is christianity

???

What do you mean? I highly doubt ubisoft is going to be going in any direction that directly undercuts a religion practiced by billions.

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I know nothing about the series, but I bet they make Jesus a Templar

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Honestly I was disappointed every time the story pulled me to modern day. I wanted to pirate it up some more damn it! With a rollicking Randy dandy-o

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Making a game like Spiderman or Mirror's Edge with like an Aeon Flux/Ultraviolet vibe (PN83, Cyberpunk'ish) is kinda like the final frontier for Assassin's Creed.

Would have made sense to try it around the Fassbender film

big spoilers if anyone actually cares, but obviously the apple of eden and various other things referenced are christian, or rather, isu (ancient alien) but most recently, king charles the fat is possessed by a demon in the valhalla dlc, and it turns out the norse gods were all isu, and valhalla was a matrix simulation, effectively disproving their entire religion

so yeah, my point is i don't see them committing to it, but it's obviously where they're headed

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viewmaster_pi posted...

big spoilers

lmao I might have to play this franchise that sounds so gloriously fucking stupid

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I don't mind what it's become but it's not what I wanted. Most gamers don't agree with me that 1>2, so it is what it is. That means it probably wouldn't be what I want either way.

Crazy when things go your way isnt it? Or the inverse. Trends.

Lordgold666 posted...

Theres only been like a combined 20 min of modern day gameplay from the past three ac games tho

Too much. Cut the gameplay and the modern story

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Smackems posted...

Too much. Cut the gameplay and the modern story

That just becomes Sekiro.

hidden tiger

pegusus123456 posted...

lmao I might have to play this franchise that sounds so gloriously fucking stupid

He's condensing the fun stuff though. For every revelation there's a thousand lines of boring dialogue and 20 minutes of boring ass gameplay in modern day

The historical settings and main gameplay are what the series is all about, set to the backdrop of an ancient civilization that doesn't need the modern shit to be interesting

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Assassin's Creed's initial audience was bouncing hard off the SotC & SotN vibes.

Borgia's story & Juniper was never meant to be told...

2 did way too much

I feel like theyre still trying to recoup off of that game

Smackems posted...

The historical settings and main gameplay are what the series is all about, set to the backdrop of an ancient civilization that doesn't need the modern shit to be interesting

in fact, learning about the various historical civilizations and religions and how they involve the in-game lore would have made wondering what was going on in the present very interesting and mysterious

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viewmaster_pi posted...

in fact, learning about the various historical civilizations and religions and how they involve the in-game lore would have made wondering what was going on in the present very interesting and mysterious

The Adam & Eve video is where I dropped off

Something, something MGS4

The modern day stuff was the only thing that held my interest with the series.

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Dead Space 2 had the same problems as AC2 Imo

Yes, we noticed the change in direction.
No, you are not Resident Evil 4. At all.

After the Desmond games, the direction for what the hell they do with AC games has been a complete mess.

For example, they make a game called "Origins" and then literally have the next game set in time earlier than Origins.

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After III they should have dropped it, for sure.

I only played part 1, but I was under the impression modern day was the overarching story of the franchise.

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

I only played part 1, but I was under the impression modern day was the overarching story of the franchise.

That's what it seemed but eventually it was obvious that the devs didn't even know where they wanted to go with it and now they just keep putting it in randomly cause they feel obligated when really no one wants it in there

Axiom posted...

That's what it seemed but eventually it was obvious that the devs didn't even know where they wanted to go with it and now they just keep putting it in randomly cause they feel obligated when really no one wants it in there

Well, I think they were building up to doing modern day stuff, but the quality of that was lower than the actual game settings in the past, so it wasn't popular with the fans, so they abandoned it.

I think they should have stuck the course and given us at least one modern game before going back to different periods.

Here we go! This is what I was trying to remember yesterday.

Basically Nolan North, the voice actor for Desmond, explains that the original plan was for Assassin's Creed to only be 6 games. And by the final game, Desmond would be the ultimate assassin in the modern day. But the original writer, Patrice Dsilets, was having disagreements with Ubisoft. So he stopped working on the games and they brought in new writers and changed things.

Here's Nolan explaining this (7 years ago)

https://youtu.be/_QuCngnxqbQ?t=34

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