Poll of the Day > 20 y/o HEALTHY Kid is DEAD despite his Mom BEGGING him to get VACCINATED!!!

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20 y/o Healthy College Student, Tyler Gilreath from North Carolina DIED of COVID-19 despite his mother BEGGING him to get the vaccine but he was hesitant after reading stories of the dangers of the MRNA vaccine causing Micardis among young males and that he was HEALTHY enough to survive it if he caught it!!

He was a sophomore at North Carolina-Wilmington who died yesterday morning after fighting the disease for nearly a month when he caught the virus just after returning to college in August.

He promised his mother, Tamra Demello that he would get vaccinated once he arrived at the school but quickly developed complications shortly after testing positive

She said "I cajoled, encouraged, threatened and nagged for him to get vaccinated. I did everything i could possibly think of."

He developed a 100 degree fever despite being healthy and having no pre-existing conditions.

But his infection morphed into a sinus infection combined with a staph infection that moved to his brain causing severe swelling and damage

He was rushed to the hospital by his roommates when they found him unresponsive as a CAT scan revealed an abscess ruptured into his brain and there was no blood flow and was irreversible

On Sept. 25, his parents were told that he would likely die from brain damage and he was taken off life support on Tuesday

Tamra said her son loved computer science, wake board, water ski and snow ski and during his freshman year when COVID shut down classes, he was in the CADETS at Virginia Tech but returned to NC to go to UNCW

She is encouraging parents to do whatever it takes when convincing their children to get vaccinated and said "Legally, they are adults. You really can't actually make them go. But i would use whatever guilt tactic i could possibly come up with. I would try taking them to see if they would go. I would say just get this message out and if it can even save one person who is on the fence, or if a parent can us it to say, lok how shattered this whole family is, this probably won't happen to you but if there's any remote possibly that it could, it's a shot"

Colleges nationwide are continuing to crackdown on anti-vaxxers with some issuing fines of $200 a week for weekly testing

Anti-vaxxers will also lose their on campus WIFI PRIVILEGES and the consequences don't end there as some even kicked out more than 100 students who failed to submit their vaccination documentations with 134 not doing so at Virginia Tech who were ousted.

Do you think it's time to get a harder stance on anti-vaxxers by creating covid passports to enter areas such as restaurants, theatres and social events?

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These easily preventable deaths are so sad. So needless

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Clench281 posted...

These easily preventable deaths are so sad. So needless

You know what other deaths are easily preventable, deaths from war, starvation and exposure due to homelessness.

BEERandWEED posted...

You know what other deaths are easily preventable, deaths from war, starvation and exposure due to homelessness.

So you agree we should make more of an effort to avoid preventable deaths?

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BEERandWEED posted...

You know what other deaths are easily preventable, deaths from war, starvation and exposure due to homelessness.

They are, and it's therefore also deplorable that they continue to happen, but preventing even one death from any of those things is still several orders of magnitude more difficult than getting two shots.

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adjl posted...

They are, and it's therefore also deplorable that they continue to happen, but preventing even one death from any of those things is still several orders of magnitude more difficult than getting two shots.

You are also presuming that the shot would have prevented this person's death. That is not guaranteed.

If we stop killing for profit, feeding to sustain and housing to maintain, there would be substantially less death, guaranteed.

Staph infection from covid?

I'm guessing he got that from the hospital

BEERandWEED posted...

You are also presuming that the shot would have prevented this person's death. That is not guaranteed.

There are no guarantees in life but he most likely would still be alive. Stop behaving like a troglodyte.

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B-b-b-but it won't hurt you if you're young and healthy!

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Ducky has been big on the fear mongering lately, why don't you post any stories about some Florida man anymore?

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Very unfortunate. He should have gotten all the jabs and every booster shot available. RIP

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OhhhJa posted...

Staph infection from covid?

Yeah that sounds odd. Like I wonder if maybe he got the staph infection from the hospital environment.

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jramirez23 posted...

Yeah that sounds odd. Like I wonder if maybe he got the staph infection from the hospital environment.

That's what I was thinking

BEERandWEED posted...

You are also presuming that the shot would have prevented this person's death. That is not guaranteed.

Most available data is showing somewhere in the range of a 500-1000-fold reduction in the risk of death. It's not guaranteed (almost nothing is), no, but describing this death as easily preventable is completely accurate. This is very readily comparable to somebody being killed in a car accident because they weren't wearing their seat belt.

BEERandWEED posted...

If we stop killing for profit, feeding to sustain and housing to maintain, there would be substantially less death, guaranteed.

Now you're comparing a statistical reduction in death to an individual case. If the entire world were to be vaccinated against Covid, there would be substantially fewer Covid deaths, guaranteed. Meanwhile, you cannot necessarily guarantee that any individual death from violence, starvation, or exposure would be prevented by peacekeeping, food, or housing initiatives.

Also, once again, taking two shots is not remotely comparable to the difficulty and effort involved in eliminating war, famine, and homelessness. Heck, it's not even comparable to the difficulty and effort involved in ensuring that one person is saved from those things. Nor, for that matter, is this one kid getting vaccinated in any way mutually exclusive of global efforts to reduce the impacts of those things. It's not a good analogy, and it's not a matter of choosing to focus on one over the other, so why are you even bringing it up?

jramirez23 posted...

Yeah that sounds odd. Like I wonder if maybe he got the staph infection from the hospital environment.

The way duckbear's described it, it sounds like he developed the infection before he got to the hospital, which isn't that unbelievable. S. aureus is pretty commonly found on the skin and in the upper respiratory tract; pretty much anything that compromises the integrity of those areas creates the risk of it getting into other parts of the body and creating an infection (hospital-acquired staph tends to be associated with intravenous and urinary catheters, since they risk introducing external pathogens into the blood). In this case, Covid's damage to his sinuses created an opportunity for the staph to move in and cause further trouble.

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This topic must be a shit show, I can't see 60% of posts


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Dark_SilverX posted...

Very unfortunate. He should have gotten all the jabs and every booster shot available. RIP

Could have still got it.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Could have still got it.

adjl posted...

Most available data is showing somewhere in the range of a 500-1000-fold reduction in the risk of death. It's not guaranteed (almost nothing is), no, but describing this death as easily preventable is completely accurate. This is very readily comparable to somebody being killed in a car accident because they weren't wearing their seat belt.

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Still doesn't change anything to what I said.

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Nor does what you said change anything about the fact that being vaccinated would have dramatically reduced the risk of this outcome and that "he should have gotten the shot" is therefore a completely accurate statement. Why say something with no actual semantic value?

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adjl posted...

Nor does what you said change anything about the fact that being vaccinated would have dramatically reduced the risk of this outcome and that "he should have gotten the shot" is therefore a completely accurate statement.

As is he could have still got it. Your responses are pointless here.


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wwinterj25 posted...

As is he could have still got it. Your responses are pointless here.

As are yours. So kindly shut up.

wwinterj25 posted...

As is he could have still got it. Your responses are pointless here.

Not at all. A vague, unquantified "he could still have died from it" that fails to account for how remote that possibility is risks misinforming people that don't know what to believe about the vaccine's efficacy, leading them to believe that it's less effective than it actually is. As somebody who does understand the situation and does know what to believe, I have a responsibility to intervene and keep those people from being misinformed. That's not pointless at all.

You, on the other hand, are saying something that not only contributes nothing of value (literally everyone already understands that the vaccine is not going to be perfect, 100% protection), but actively makes the situation works by potentially misinforming people. Again, I ask: Why would you do that?

SantaKhala posted...

https://openvaers.com/index.php

Use your words if you're trying to make a point. Don't just dump data with no context and hope it will speak for itself. It's very difficult to help you understand the situation better if you don't indicate your current understanding so the people with which you're discussing the matter can identify the holes in your knowledge that are interfering with it.

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Arcturusisnow posted...

As are yours. So kindly shut up.

Nah. Who even are you?

adjl posted...

As somebody who does understand the situation and does know what to believe, I have a responsibility to intervene and keep those people from being misinformed. That's not pointless at all.

You're aware folk can still die from covid even with the jabs so you're arguing for the sake of it as always. You also don't need to reply to my posts at all and type a often condescending post that makes no difference to what I typed. You do this often. Why is this? Does it make you feel intelligent? It makes me think otherwise.

You, on the other hand, are saying something that not only contributes nothing of value (literally everyone already understands that the vaccine is not going to be perfect, 100% protection), but actively makes the situation works by potentially misinforming people. Again, I ask: Why would you do that?

It's not misinformation though. You've literally just agreed with what I typed and your posts are nothing of value too as you're saying what "literally everyone already understands" but act like you're informing people for so reason. Probably a personal problem.

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Someone get this BeerandWeed idiot banned.

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BEERandWEED posted...

You are also presuming that the shot would have prevented this person's death. That is not guaranteed.

If we stop killing for profit, feeding to sustain and housing to maintain, there would be substantially less death, guaranteed.

He would've had a dramatically statistically relevant lower chance of a) getting it and b) developing complications leading to death from it. ignoring that is infantile and complete misinformation at this point.

Yes, we need to stop killing for profit as well, we also need to sustain public housing and generally implement policies that will lead to less death. Guess what, that'll include vaccine mandates. Cheers, brickbrain.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

He would've had a dramatically statistically relevant lower chance of a) getting it and b) developing complications leading to death from it. ignoring that is infantile and complete misinformation at this point.

He's not wrong though. The guy could have still died. Nobody is ignoring he could have survived more with jabs here as far as I know.


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wwinterj25 posted...

He's not wrong though. The guy could have still died. Nobody is ignoring he could have survived more with jabs here as far as I know.

And AFAIK, nobody is saying he would have definitely survived. I believe they are trying to say he chances would have drastically increased
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LinkPizza posted...

And AFAIK, nobody is saying he would have definitely survived. I believe they are trying to say he chances would have drastically increased

I guess everyone is right then. Good stuff!

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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think it's time to get a harder stance on anti-vaxxers by creating covid passports to enter areas such as restaurants, theatres and social events?

Those are already a thing.

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wwinterj25 posted...

You're aware folk can still die from covid even with the jabs so you're arguing for the sake of it as always.

No, I'm arguing for the sake of providing a complete picture. On its own, "Vaccinated people can still die of Covid" is a quantitatively vague statement that grossly exaggerates that risk by failing to indicate how negligible it really is. There are many people out there (including some in this very topic) that believe the vaccine provides little protection, which is just plain untrue. That belief should be disputed at every possible juncture, not validated with vague comments that can be interpreted as validating it.

If anything, you're the one arguing for the sake of it. Everyone knows it's not perfect protection. Chiming in to say that contributes nothing that everyone doesn't already know, while running the risk of confusing those that aren't sure how the actual numbers play out. So, again: Why?

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adjl posted...

That belief should be disputed at every possible juncture, not validated with vague comments that can be interpreted as validating it.

It doesn't change the fact no matter how much you rush out with a pitch fork.

So, again: Why?

Mostly because it's true but also because I can. I don't care if a comment has been said before, adds nothing(to you) or about your need to have every comment be meaningful for whatever reason. This is a public forum so I'll post what I like. Even more so when it's a fact to the topic. Don't like it? Tough. I hope that clears it up you you.

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wwinterj25 posted...

It doesn't change the fact no matter how much you rush out with a pitch fork.

That doesn't mean it's not a bad idea to validate it.

wwinterj25 posted...

Mostly because it's true but also because I can.

You can also put a pair of Hello Kitty panties on your head, duct tape toilet paper streamers to your ears, and run down the street yelling "booga booga." Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

wwinterj25 posted...

This is a public forum so I'll post what I like. Even more so when it's a fact to the topic. Don't like it? Tough.

If you're going to be that irresponsible, you should expect people to correct you as needed and stop getting uppity about it.

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adjl posted...

You can also put a pair of Hello Kitty panties on your head, duct tape toilet paper streamers to your ears, and run down the street yelling "booga booga."

Not a bad idea. It'll be more interesting than your posts.

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