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StealThisSheen 07/23/21 11:23:04 PM #52: |
As somebody who lived near Cleveland, local natives absolutely found it offensive, especially Chief Wahoo. And while they limited the use of Wahoo lately, the association was still there.
EDIT: Not so anecdotally, the Lake Erie Native American Council praised this name change and spoke of the damage the name caused previously. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 07/23/21 11:27:44 PM #53: |
Out of curiosity, what "damage" did the name cause?
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StealThisSheen 07/23/21 11:29:35 PM #54: |
Google their statements yourself so you can attempt to belittle the feelings of a group of people of which you do not belong some more.
You already called indigenous people of Ohio "mentally deficient," so you might as well swing for the fences. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 07/23/21 11:30:02 PM #55: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
The more that unemployed, low IQ Twitter users bitch and moan about meaningless platitudes, the harder it is to address actual instances of inequality or racism.Addressing small instances of racism does not change the ability to deal with larger instances of racism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 07/23/21 11:35:34 PM #56: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Addressing small instances of racism does not change the ability to deal with larger instances of racism.Wasting time and public attention on things that are questionably and mostly not at all racist absolutely changes the ability to deal with larger instances of racism. This is literally the inverse of the Trump strategy of flooding media with small scandals to divert attention from the ones that are actually harmful and dangerous. If someone is actually "woke" and not just pretending to be for Internet Social Justice Points, they would automatically be against this. Want to solve inequality and racism? Address the root causes, specifically poverty and education. It's a lot harder to convince people that there are real issues when morons are shouting from the Twitter rooftops about "insensitivity" in the name of a fucking baseball team that was named 120+ years ago. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/23/21 11:38:57 PM #57: |
You do realize the biggest push against Cleveland's name was actually from local indigenous groups, right. Public outcry overall had mostly died down.
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ChainLTTP 07/23/21 11:43:29 PM #58: |
StealThisSheen posted...
You do realize the biggest push against Cleveland's name was actually from local indigenous groups, right. Public outcry overall had mostly died down.Cleveland Gaslighters No native group gives one shit about "redskins" let alone "indians" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/23/21 11:50:04 PM #59: |
What you two should probably do to really prove your point is find the contact information for said groups, which is easily found via five seconds of Googling, tell them they don't actually give a shit, and then also tell them what you really think of them while also leaving your name and address.
You know, to really show you know what you're talking about. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 07/24/21 1:15:58 AM #61: |
I already had those two posters tagged but fuck.
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BlAcK TuRtLe 07/24/21 2:04:36 AM #62: |
StealThisSheen posted...
What you two should probably do to really prove your point is find the contact information for said groups, which is easily found via five seconds of Googling, tell them they don't actually give a shit, and then also tell them what you really think of them while also leaving your name and address.The problem with "groups" is that they are comprised of people collecting a paycheque that need to spend all of their working hours looking for justification to keep getting paid. The entire industry is centered around inventing things to get upper middle class white millenials worked up Talk to real people for a change, instead of just blindly believing the compromised opinion of Twitter "activists". Talk to some native or black people and see if they care more about useless platitudes, or if they'd rather society focus on the problems of poverty and education regardless of race/ethnicity. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 07/24/21 3:02:58 AM #63: |
Why does it have to be this or that?
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StealThisSheen 07/24/21 3:28:07 AM #64: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
The problem with "groups" is that they are comprised of people collecting a paycheque that need to spend all of their working hours looking for justification to keep getting paid. The entire industry is centered around inventing things to get upper middle class white millenials worked up I literally grew up near Cleveland, dude. I lived there for most of my life. I've literally already talked to these people. And I'm going to believe them a hell of a lot more than I'm going to believe you, for obvious reasons. Can you come up with an actual argument for why people can't focus on both, instead of starting with "No indigenous people actually care!" and ending with "Okay but those indigenous people don't count!" EDIT: I know you're just going to "rabble rabble THE TWITTER rabble rabble," but the Cleveland American Indian Movement has been protesting outside of the stadium for fifty-one years. I'm pretty sure they weren't centered around working up people that weren't even born yet. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarkS222222222222222 07/24/21 3:29:41 AM #65: |
Shoulda went with Cleveland Factories for accuracy
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Leafeon13N 07/24/21 4:24:05 AM #66: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Wasting time and public attention on things that are questionably and mostly not at all racist absolutely changes the ability to deal with larger instances of racism.No, it doesnt. The Cleveland baseball team was not about to use their resources in any other way to solve poverty or whatever. And they certainly dont want their fanbase thinking about racism if their team name is the Indians. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 07/24/21 4:25:47 AM #67: |
Other side of this, the owners here clearly thought it was in their financial interest to change the team name.
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StealThisSheen 07/24/21 4:29:30 AM #68: |
BT secretly wanted the team to become the Cleveland ACAB. The truth comes out.
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TheRock1525 07/24/21 4:31:08 AM #69: |
"Not at all racist." --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 07/24/21 11:13:20 AM #70: |
why are you responding to BT like he's capable of any emotion except hate?
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Leonhart4 07/24/21 11:16:50 AM #71: |
Leafeon13N posted...
Other side of this, the owners here clearly thought it was in their financial interest to change the team name. Ding ding ding The answer to all your questions is money --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 07/24/21 12:56:12 PM #73: |
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woke liberal garbage whose entire business model is race grifting and pushing segregation back on black people.What does this mean? Genuine question. --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 07/24/21 3:27:42 PM #74: |
It means nothing. It's basically Ulti Mad Libs.
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banananor 07/24/21 5:38:28 PM #76: |
tbh minor league teams know where it's at when it comes to names
They have the Isotopes Yard Goats Chihuahuas Jumbo Shrimp Wahoos Rumble Ponies etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_League_Baseball#Major_League_affiliations --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/24/21 5:39:11 PM #77: |
I like how reformed Ulti always lasts barely a day every time, like clockwork
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kevwaffles 07/24/21 6:40:13 PM #78: |
He reformed again? Must have missed that.
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Leonhart4 07/24/21 7:09:05 PM #80: |
Our local minor league team when I was growing up was (and still is) called the Lookouts.
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Maniac64 07/24/21 7:38:55 PM #81: |
Roughriders and Kernals were where I grew up.
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MrGreenonion 07/24/21 7:48:09 PM #82: |
There are multiple baseball teams named after what color socks they wear. New York's basketball team is named after pants. Montreal's hockey team's name means "people from Canada", and while they still had one so did Vancouver's.
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LeonhartFour 07/24/21 9:24:33 PM #83: |
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I mean I did reform, doesnt mean I have to deal with people who are obsessively pro censorship. changing a team's name isn't censorship --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 07/24/21 9:43:18 PM #84: |
There used to be a baseball team named for a race of people! Weird name
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MZero 07/24/21 10:42:05 PM #86: |
MrGreenonion posted...
Montreal's hockey team's name means "people from Canada", and while they still had one so did Vancouver's. I'm confused, do the Vancouver Canucks not exist anymore? also Minor League baseball is doing it right. I'm also quite fond of the B.League (Japan's professional basketball league) names. Here are some of my favorites: Crane Thunders Orange Vikings Diamond Dolphins Bee Trains Ballooners Samuraiz (yes spelled with a z) Tryhoop Okayama Earth Friends Tokyo Z --- MZero, to the extreme I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 07/24/21 10:48:16 PM #87: |
I am now a fan of the Diamond Dolphins. That is amazing.
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LeonhartFour 07/24/21 10:50:15 PM #88: |
there's literally a team called the Houston Texans
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NFUN 07/24/21 10:50:32 PM #89: |
bee trains 4 life
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StealThisSheen 07/25/21 12:03:38 AM #90: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Huh? Isn't blocking people also a form of censorship in that you aren't giving them a chance to speak for themselves in response to you? It's really no different than turning comments off on Twitter/Youtube. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 07/25/21 12:38:52 AM #91: |
StealThisSheen posted...
He blocked me for providing sources that debunked his nonsense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 07/25/21 3:01:06 PM #93: |
as a clevelander and a life long indians fan
i love the new name the logos they have presented so far are awful, but i love the name --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise Currently Playing: Subnautica Below Zero ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 07/25/21 3:07:48 PM #94: |
MrGreenonion posted...
There are multiple baseball teams named after what color socks they wear. New York's basketball team is named after pants. Montreal's hockey team's name means "people from Canada", and while they still had one so did Vancouver's.vancouver still has a team...... --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise Currently Playing: Subnautica Below Zero ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 07/25/21 3:09:08 PM #95: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Isn't blocking people also a form of censorship in that you aren't giving them a chance to speak for themselves in response to you? It's really no different than turning comments off on Twitter/Youtube.he blocked me after i was on this board for like a day cause i was arguing with him about last of us 2 i'm convinced its a record --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise Currently Playing: Subnautica Below Zero ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 07/25/21 5:22:31 PM #96: |
Wtf he blocked me again. For asking a genuine question??
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MoogleKupo141 07/25/21 5:29:12 PM #97: |
he accused you of marking the post you were asking about
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StealThisSheen 07/25/21 6:00:02 PM #98: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
When its flagrant harassment or obsessive post marking, no. Still sounds like censorship to me, but hey, if you're coming out as pro censorship, good to know That said, it was probably not Waluigi that marked it, considering you can't quote posts you've marked. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 07/25/21 8:53:06 PM #99: |
Ulti should just assume if ever he gets moderated that it is because I logged into an alt and marked it. Then he can continue to talk with the remaining people who are still willing to have a conversation with him.
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Tom Bombadil 07/25/21 9:02:17 PM #100: |
Last night I went to a game between the Atomic Pork Chops and the Milkmen.
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Maniac64 07/25/21 9:21:33 PM #101: |
Tom Bombadil posted...
Last night I went to a game between the Atomic Pork Chops and the Milkmen.They should change it every night. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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