Current Events > Is Assassin's Creed Valhalla any good?

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Even if it's on PS4?

There hasn't been a good AC

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Master Kazuya posted...

There hasn't been a good AC

This is just plain wrong.

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I heard the entire game is set in England and yet there is a giant mountain in the game that exists nowhere in england

I don't know if the PS4 version is any good, but I really enjoyed it. I found it way more enjoyable than Odyssey. Still didn't have as interesting a story as Origins, but I did like what they did with the story, and it has easily the best gameplay of these three titles. I haven't played the DLC yet though, can't speak to that.

Zikten posted...

I heard the entire game is set in England and yet there is a giant mountain in the game that exists nowhere in england

There are parts that are set in Norway and elsewhere, too, it's not 100% England.

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It's not good. It's like a 6/10

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AC 2, Brotherhood, Black Flag, and Valhalla are all the better games in the series.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

AC 2, Brotherhood, Black Flag, and Valhalla are all the better games in the series.

Valhalla is better than Valhalla? @RiKuToTheMiGhtY

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I still prefer Rogue to Black Flag, despite the terrible dialogue.

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It means Valhalla is one of the better AC games.

@spikethedevil

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Fair enough.

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Master Kazuya posted...

There hasn't been a good AC

I like most of them.

I enjoyed what I played of it. Fell behind due to... Something, I don't quite remember. Then haven't gone back and finished yet. But I liked it.

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It was a fun time but tbh I just started skipping through all of the dialogue about halfway thru it

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SSJCAT posted...

It was a fun time but tbh I just started skipping through all of the dialogue about halfway thru it

Yeah it's kinda cool how they flesh out the supporting characters but I think you can also get through most of the main game without worrying too much about dialogue, except for one or two of the provinces and then the ending.

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Recent AC games have taken me like 8-12 months to complete them with breaks, but I still like them. They're just too damn massive.

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it's worse than odyssey but if you really have nothing else to play or nothing else to do, it's a timesink

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I went ahead and got it. I love it!

I enjoyed what I played of it, but it didn't hook me the way Odyssey did, and I haven't felt any real urge to return to it since setting it down

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Antifar posted...

I enjoyed what I played of it, but it didn't hook me the way Odyssey did, and I haven't felt any real urge to return to it since setting it down

Yeah, I love Odyssey too!

I'm curious why people liked Odyssey better?

Valhalla cut out a lot of the nonsense clearing camps to focus on individual, localized encounters with people across the world, plus you got to develop a settlement again, plus the combat was more fluid, plus they eliminated shitty inventory management, plus there was way more attention paid to the story (wasn't hard to do though since Odyssey didn't have... like any story).

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AC Origin's is better than both of them

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i don't see any changes they made from odyssey being good, just different. it dumbed everything down too much for its own good for me. i liked the loot, RPG elements and various effects to put together builds. if i knew they were just going to backpedal to pander to the "true fans," by removing all that, i wouldn't have even bothered with valhalla. there's hardly any gear variety and 90% of the perks are completely worthless, but the "true fans" never cared about that stuff, so it's an argument i can't even get a foot in the door with

not to mention the setting is crap, and the concept of some noble good guy viking who's also an assassin makes no sense. all the post launch content has been shitty tedious grinding stuff, too. plus, each update's added bugs that get patched with... different bugs

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i don't see any changes they made from odyssey being good, just different. it dumbed everything down too much for its own good for me. i liked the loot, RPG elements and various effects to put together builds. if i knew they were just going to backpedal to pander to the "true fans," by removing all that, i wouldn't have even bothered with valhalla. there's hardly any gear variety and 90% of the perks are completely worthless, but the "true fans" never cared about that stuff, so it's an argument i can't even get a foot in the door with

not to mention the setting is crap, and the concept of some noble good guy viking who's also an assassin makes no sense. all the post launch content has been shitty tedious grinding stuff, too. plus, each update's added bugs that get patched with... different bugs

It is idiotic, atleast Black Flag character made the connection to the actual AC LORE

Valhalla's character has NO connection at all

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Odyssey is such a fun game. Don't care how Not True to AC it is. Best in the series without a doubt.

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Cocytus posted...

I went ahead and got it. I love it!

Fantastic, it's on my list to get later... I've still yet to play through Odyssey

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i don't see any changes they made from odyssey being good, just different. it dumbed everything down too much for its own good for me. i liked the loot, RPG elements and various effects to put together builds. if i knew they were just going to backpedal to pander to the "true fans," by removing all that, i wouldn't have even bothered with valhalla. there's hardly any gear variety and 90% of the perks are completely worthless, but the "true fans" never cared about that stuff, so it's an argument i can't even get a foot in the door with

not to mention the setting is crap, and the concept of some noble good guy viking who's also an assassin makes no sense. all the post launch content has been shitty tedious grinding stuff, too. plus, each update's added bugs that get patched with... different bugs

Well now I'm *really* curious what you liked about the inventory system?

To me it was not rewarding just holding down X for ten minutes at a time when my inventory got full. I wound up not using more than a couple weapons over the whole length of the game, so yeah that system was dumbed down/streamlined but I think it probably also reflected how a lot of people play when given the choice - keep a weapon you like and upgrade it as you play.

And you are like... literally never an assassin. They don't try to portray it like that until maybe the very end, it's moreso like you're just working with them to help take down the Order.

I don't know. Odyssey to me was a massive fucking chore, the world was beautiful but there was zero story and any of the unique side content got drowned out through the oversaturation of generic fetch quest side content.

But again, I also didn't like clearing out the same bandit camp 500 times over like they encourage you to do in Odyssey, either. ALSO... the whole war mechanic was totally half-baked.

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It's become one of my favorites in the series, along with the Ezio trilogy and Origins.

The problem is, at least on PC, it's so buggy. Crashes constantly.

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I loved it.
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I'm in the middle of playing it as we speak. The game is really too damn long. I'm over 100 hours into it and don't yet see the finish line

I'm playing it right now and it's my 1st AC game

I like it but damn is it a long game, and I usually love long games. I'm 110+ hours in and I feel like I still have quite a ways to go.

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Hexenherz posted...

Well now I'm *really* curious what you liked about the inventory system?

i don't know what you mean, like selling or scrapping things you don't need? i mean that's just how games work when you find things. i don't understand why selling things for money is such a bad thing, but i see it brought up a lot. it wasn't overwhelming or hard to manage. you even had a storage box.

in valhalla they DO cram everything into your inventory, and the mess of runes is absurd, but i wouldn't be surprised if 90% of players just sell them all and don't even put them in their gear.

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bulletproofvita posted...

Fantastic, it's on my list to get later... I've still yet to play through Odyssey

Odyssey and it's DLC is definitely worth at least one whole playthrough, if not more.

Mike Xtreme posted...

I'm playing it right now and it's my 1st AC game

I like it but damn is it a long game, and I usually love long games. I'm 110+ hours in and I feel like I still have quite a ways to go.

That's reassuring.

viewmaster_pi posted...

i don't know what you mean, like selling or scrapping things you don't need? i mean that's just how games work when you find things. i don't understand why selling things for money is such a bad thing, but i see it brought up a lot. it wasn't overwhelming or hard to manage. you even had a storage box.

in valhalla they DO cram everything into your inventory, and the mess of runes is absurd, but i wouldn't be surprised if 90% of players just sell them all and don't even put them in their gear.

Yes, I am talking about selling or scrapping unnecessarily items. Almost *everything* in Odyssey was unnecessary, which is why it was a bad thing. I don't mind inventory management in games where you can actually interact with items in the real world or display them or something, but here it's just stuff taking up space.

Yes it wasn't *hard* to manage, it was just time consuming.

I agree that the Rune system in Valhalla suffered a similar problem but it was objectively not to the same extreme.

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Hexenherz posted...

Yes, I am talking about selling or scrapping unnecessarily items. Almost *everything* in Odyssey was unnecessary, which is why it was a bad thing. I don't mind inventory management in games where you can actually interact with items in the real world or display them or something, but here it's just stuff taking up space.

i don't know what to tell you, i mean... it's no different than fallout or skyrim or whatever other legit RPGs have lots of items. if you want something, keep it, if not, sell it. i don't know how that's "unnecessary" in a game where you need money and resources to buy and upgrade things

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Oddysey's inventory was definitely a bit much. It reminded me of the first Mass Effect's clusterfuck of an inventory

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Its fun imo.

Combat took a little to get used to but I became a fan.
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viewmaster_pi posted...

i don't know what to tell you, i mean... it's no different than fallout or skyrim or whatever other legit RPGs have lots of items. if you want something, keep it, if not, sell it. i don't know how that's "unnecessary" in a game where you need money and resources to buy and upgrade things

The difference between Fallout, Skyrim or any other RPG is that it is extremely obvious when an item will have some use or value to it and when an item is totally trash. In Odyssey, there is no visual distinction between loot items. You loot a body, you are likely to get either a weapon (requires an extra step to process) or a junk item (less hassle to sell). It was unnecessarily convoluted.

A game can also give you ways to generate money *without* requiring you to pick up endless amounts of items to sell or break down.

And even when they *do* rely on a system like what Odyssey used, there are some basic QOL methods they can include, such as a "mark as junk" option to allow you to sell or scrap in bulk. That is especially true of a game that already categorizes items by *type* - you could set it to automatically mark any Spears as junk if you're never going to use Spears, for instance.

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As a long time fan of the series, having played every game in the series, no, don't get Valhalla. It's easily the worst mainline entry in the entire series. It's so bloated, and took considerable steps back from even the two previous games. And with the series now going live service crap with infinite, I'm done with it lol.


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steveoSEK posted...

As a long time fan of the series, having played every game in the series, no, don't get Valhalla. It's easily the worst mainline entry in the entire series. It's so bloated, and took considerable steps back from even the two previous games. And with the series now going live service crap with infinite, I'm done with it lol.

yeah it took considerable steps back from the cliff that Odyssey had brought it to m i rite

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Hexenherz posted...

yeah it took considerable steps back from the cliff that Odyssey had brought it to m i rite

Yes, actually. Origins was quite good. Odyssey did several things right but took a huge nosedive in other ways which led to us getting Valhalla as it is.

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I do prefer it to Odyssey tbh

Odyssey and to a lesser extent Origins suffer from turning into shitty open world RPGs

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