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Choco
07/08/21 2:56:00 PM
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Jonathan ARYAN Tronathan




Discuss.

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Turbam
07/08/21 2:56:21 PM
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IIRC, he changed his ways

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Choco
07/08/21 2:57:32 PM
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Turbam posted...
IIRC, he changed his ways
did he?

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J03can
07/08/21 2:58:30 PM
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I think he had some shitty takes but learned from them which is all I ask from people with shitty takes

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FabIe
07/08/21 2:58:42 PM
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Choco posted...
did he?

He acknowledged he had bad info, was presented with facts, and apologized. Idk where though I just remember that he did.

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Zikten
07/08/21 3:00:10 PM
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I still don't know enough about him or the infamous incident to make a decision. I never cared about John Tron. I didn't discover Game Grumps until he was already replaced by Danny
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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 3:01:31 PM
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Never to my knowledge apologized for saying shitty things, so color me skeptical of any professed change.

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Trumble
07/08/21 3:03:32 PM
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The only thing I really know about the dude is that he has (or had?) a conure.

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Nemu
07/08/21 3:06:40 PM
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His talking point was definitely parroted from some racist nonsense from what I remember, but I don't think he really did anything else. He was definitely going down a bad ideological path, but ascribing racist to him when he hasn't had any other issues since is a bit silly. It's like the people to this day that still shit on Pewdiepie, acting like he's the worst person in the world.
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DoctorPiranha3
07/08/21 3:07:50 PM
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He doesn't seem like a legitimate racist dude, just ignorant in some things he's said
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Choco
07/09/21 7:25:29 PM
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Freddie_Mercury
07/09/21 7:39:50 PM
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Nukazie
07/09/21 7:42:16 PM
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no

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Badmotorfinger
07/09/21 7:44:41 PM
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au_gold
07/09/21 7:44:41 PM
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Doesnt he literally want an ethnostate?

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Slayer_22
07/09/21 7:45:06 PM
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He's funny af regardless.
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Choco
07/10/21 10:59:37 AM
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Phantom_Nook
07/10/21 11:03:20 AM
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Not only is he racist, he's a Trump shill and pushed the election fraud horseshit. Fuck him.
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Choco
07/10/21 11:05:40 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
pushed the election fraud horseshit
did he? i thought he stopped talking about political stuff at some point

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Phantom_Nook
07/10/21 7:39:28 PM
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Choco posted...
did he? i thought he stopped talking about political stuff at some point

Here's some info. Read through at your leisure.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/jrh0j2/youtube_gamer_and_trump_supporter_jon_rich_blacks/
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Kingbuffet
07/10/21 7:47:32 PM
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Racist and self hating, kind of sad tbqh
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Slayer_22
07/10/21 9:44:00 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...


Here's some info. Read through at your leisure.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/jrh0j2/youtube_gamer_and_trump_supporter_jon_rich_blacks/

Half those links lead to deleted posts.
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Ser_Jaker
07/10/21 9:47:17 PM
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You can say what you want about Jontron's political or racial beliefs but his Flextape episodes will stand up as masterpieces.

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Prestoff
07/10/21 9:51:26 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Half those links lead to deleted posts.

I'm assuming it is either Jon deleting his own posts or the mods doing it.

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Axiom
07/10/21 9:53:38 PM
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I knew this guy was a piece of shit but I didn't know about half the stuff in here
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cjsdowg
07/10/21 9:57:05 PM
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Very much so. I don't know how people can say no. I am not suggesting you stop liking him if you like him. But at least be honest .

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MrMallard
07/10/21 10:13:56 PM
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Regardless of what he recanted and apologized for, him pushing white genocide rhetoric was a genuine fucking disgrace and I lost a lot of love and respect for him for doing that. That's something that sticks to you like napalm. And you hear people go "he apologized, he was duped by racist friends and he doesn't feel like that any more!" - but the same people who are batting for JonTron are the people who were trying to downplay what he said earlier. I also find it unlikely considering the way he shitposts on Twitter.

Then you have his history of yelling slurs, there are three or four occasions during his stint on Game Grumps where he yells the n-word and they censor it with an elephant cry. So he's been comfortable throwing around slurs for years.

JonTron might not be a racist any more - for all I know, he's gotten better and is trying to make amends. But him espousing white nationalist rhetoric was a serious breach of trust, it only served to highlight his previous racism, and that's hard to come back from. Whether he's a racist or not doesn't matter - whether he's apologized or not doesn't matter. I don't like him any more. I don't trust him.

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Webmaster4531
07/10/21 10:44:19 PM
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Just his career.
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sevihaimerej
07/10/21 10:49:50 PM
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MrMallard posted...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Regardless of what he recanted and apologized for, him pushing white genocide rhetoric was a genuine fucking disgrace and I lost a lot of love and respect for him for doing that. That's something that sticks to you like napalm. And you hear people go "he apologized, he was duped by racist friends and he doesn't feel like that any more!" - but the same people who are batting for JonTron are the people who were trying to downplay what he said earlier. I also find it unlikely considering the way he shitposts on Twitter.

Then you have his history of yelling slurs, there are three or four occasions during his stint on Game Grumps where he yells the n-word and they censor it with an elephant cry. So he's been comfortable throwing around slurs for years.

JonTron might not be a racist any more - for all I know, he's gotten better and is trying to make amends. But him espousing white nationalist rhetoric was a serious breach of trust, it only served to highlight his previous racism, and that's hard to come back from. Whether he's a racist or not doesn't matter - whether he's apologized or not doesn't matter. I don't like him any more. I don't trust him.
He's forever tainted then? What in your opinion could ever remove that taint?

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Slayer_22
07/10/21 10:56:22 PM
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Prestoff posted...


I'm assuming it is either Jon deleting his own posts or the mods doing it.

I don't believe so, the responses seem like they're someone different entirely, it's hard to get the context. Likely the mods deleted it though.
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Pogo_Marimo
07/10/21 10:56:54 PM
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J03can posted...
I think he had some shitty takes but learned from them which is all I ask from people with shitty takes


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PC-Builder_Pony
07/10/21 11:00:32 PM
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Gotta admit his rant was long, it was like reading again through this one long gone subreddit...

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Winrawr
07/10/21 11:01:55 PM
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He's a racist. I think people underestimate the intensity in belief it requires for someone to talk about race theory and preventing immigrantion in public areas.

Imagine the things he believes but didn't say. Now it is all just pr control. If he has genuinely changed, good but we can't ever know that
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ViewtifulGrave
07/10/21 11:02:36 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Here's some info. Read through at your leisure.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/jrh0j2/youtube_gamer_and_trump_supporter_jon_rich_blacks/
Lol someone called him a Persian Uncle Ruckus.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/10/21 11:05:00 PM
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I think he is ignorant. I don't think he has hatred for anyone in particular.

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Wii_Shaker
07/10/21 11:06:24 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
He doesn't seem like a legitimate racist dude, just ignorant in some things he's said

I thought this too, wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt but his track record speaks for itself.

It's a shame because I like his gaming content. I just simply cannot support a racist, even if it's intended to be jokey.

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_Rinku_
07/10/21 11:09:24 PM
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FabIe posted...
He acknowledged he had bad info, was presented with facts, and apologized. Idk where though I just remember that he did.
This is a horrible take especially from a mod.

He never actually apologized. He gave the pitiful excuse that he wasn't prepared for the debate and never recanted the blatantly racist and bigoted things he said. That's not an apology.
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Freddie_Mercury
07/10/21 11:44:18 PM
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iPhone_7
07/11/21 12:21:36 AM
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Remember when they targeted gamers by removing him from Yooka Laylee? IIRC it was a hidden Easter egg toilet character with a few lines. Except the voice lines are a bunch of gibberish on repeat, like in Animal Crossing when the villagers talk.

They targeted gamers, GAMERS

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