Current Events > Women disgruntled over transgender woman in change room and spa

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toyota
07/04/21 2:40:53 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgnepX54Lg

Tricky situation. How would the spa place even deal with this?

Isnt it pretty much a given that change rooms and bathrooms are divided via Sex rather than Gender?
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Zikten
07/04/21 2:42:20 AM
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This is only an issue because Americans have a stupid hangup about public nudity.

Oooooh you saw a dick. Omg!!!!!
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viewmaster_pi
07/04/21 2:43:05 AM
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sweeet another 500 topic

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refmon
07/04/21 2:45:52 AM
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lmao why are all the comments in the video praising her

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BlockAddition
07/04/21 2:47:32 AM
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Zikten posted...
This is only an issue because Americans have a stupid hangup about public nudity.

Oooooh you saw a dick. Omg!!!!!
lol

Sounds like you're an advocate for public exposure

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R1masher
07/04/21 2:51:58 AM
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Zikten posted...
This is only an issue because Americans have a stupid hangup about public nudity.

Oooooh you saw a dick. Omg!!!!!

yes, this is an American only problem mainly because a lot of these American penises are circumcised so when you see an American dick you think Oooooh an aroused penis


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hockeybub89
07/04/21 2:55:22 AM
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I can't imagine giving a fuck about who is in the spa if they aren't literally doing perverted shit.

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Dathrowed1
07/04/21 3:12:16 AM
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BlockAddition posted...
lol

Sounds like you're an advocate for public exposure
Would turn out badly especially given our obesity rates

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 3:14:50 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I can't imagine giving a fuck about who is in the spa if they aren't literally doing perverted shit.

What happened to women giving and refusing consent beforehand?


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carljenk
07/04/21 3:16:30 AM
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R1masher posted...
yes, this is an American only problem mainly because a lot of these American penises are circumcised so when you see an American dick you think Oooooh an aroused penis
Yeah this disgusting genital mutilation needs to end.

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Solid Snake07
07/04/21 3:21:00 AM
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I feel like if you're a pre op trans woman you should probably not put your dick on full display in female only areas like that.

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ThanksUglyGod
07/04/21 3:36:00 AM
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"Eeek! A penis!"
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SomeLikeItHoth
07/04/21 3:41:16 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I can't imagine giving a fuck about who is in the spa if they aren't literally doing perverted shit.
Would you give a fuck if said person was your own teenaged daughter? Hmm? What then? What would you tell her if she went to you and said this happened to her?

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-GalacticBass-
07/04/21 3:46:41 AM
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Absolutely deranged, upside down, society.

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ModLogic
07/04/21 3:47:37 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Would you give a fuck if said person was your own teenaged daughter? Hmm? What then? What would you tell her if she went to you and said this happened to her?
if he is consistent with what he has been posting. he would call her a bigot.

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LeoRavus
07/04/21 3:48:38 AM
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Yeah, it should be understood that even if you're transgender you don't pull your dick out in the lady's locker room. It's basic common sense.

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BoyOfBattle
07/04/21 4:18:16 AM
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ahh i love catfighting SJWs =)

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 4:33:27 AM
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It seems in this situation that if you support the cis woman's right, you are transphobic. If you support the pre-op woman's right, you are misogynistic. Both rights are infringing upon the other.

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LeoRavus
07/04/21 4:46:12 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
It seems in this situation that if you support the cis woman's right, you are transphobic. If you support the pre-op woman's right, you are misogynistic. Both rights are infringing upon the other.
This seems like a clear case of don't show your dick in the women's section. I don't think it has to do with gender identity at all.

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Flauros
07/04/21 4:48:31 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
This seems like a clear case of don't show your dick in the women's section. I don't think it has to do with gender identity at all.
"Thats what other women signed up for by going to a spa!"

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Thompson
07/04/21 4:51:31 AM
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If we truly are God's creations, he would've not given us disgusting sexual organs.

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LeoRavus
07/04/21 4:54:35 AM
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Thompson posted...
If we truly are God's creations, he would've not given us disgusting sexual organs.
God must love me cuz my dick is a masterpiece.

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masticatingman
07/04/21 4:55:49 AM
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Zikten posted...
This is only an issue because Americans have a stupid hangup about public nudity.

Oooooh you saw a dick. Omg!!!!!
No, its not.

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 5:06:38 AM
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Maybe I am wrong, for I am not a woman - but doesn't a cis woman seeing a stranger's penis without giving consent invoke the same feelings of discomfort and uneasiness whether it belonged to a man or pre-op transgender woman? And no I don't mean the cis woman was staring, just the simple act of a cis woman being around a stranger's uncovered penis. The woman doesn't know who the stranger is or their intentions.

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LeoRavus
07/04/21 5:08:00 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Maybe I am wrong, for I am not a woman - but doesn't a cis woman seeing a stranger's penis without giving consent invoke the same feelings of discomfort and uneasiness whether it belonged to a man or pre-op transgender woman? And no I don't mean the cis woman was staring, just the simple act of a cis woman being around a stranger's uncovered penis. The woman doesn't know who the stranger is or their intentions.
Dude that's what the entire video was about.

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spikethedevil
07/04/21 5:34:39 AM
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Weve already had a 500 topic about this.

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hockeybub89
07/04/21 5:40:15 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
This seems like a clear case of don't show your dick in the women's section. I don't think it has to do with gender identity at all.
Why even have gendered sections or get weirded out by nudity?

Unless we're implying that anyone with a penis is probably a rapist?

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 5:50:10 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Why even have gendered sections or get weirded out by nudity?

Unless we're implying that anyone with a penis is probably a rapist?

Nobody is saying everyone with a penis is probably a rapist, just that people have a right to who they see naked and who sees them naked. People are generally weirded out by seeing the other genitalia of a stranger in public and society has not yet progressed past that.

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UnfairRepresent
07/04/21 5:52:53 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Why even have gendered sections or get weirded out by nudity?

Unless we're implying that anyone with a penis is probably a rapist?
"Why is culture and society the way it is?" is a lazy response to this scenario

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hockeybub89
07/04/21 5:58:13 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Nobody is saying everyone with a penis is probably a rapist, just that people have a right to who they see naked and who sees them naked. People are generally weirded out by seeing the other genitalia of a stranger in public and society has not yet progressed past that.
Is that an actual right? Is anyone outraging if they see an ugly person with the same genitalia as them in a locker room? What's the difference? This always comes off as very discriminatory and demeaning towards anyone with a penis, be it a man or a pre-op trans woman.

UnfairRepresent posted...
"Why is culture and society the way it is?" is a lazy response to this scenario
But that is my response. I think we need to abolish gendered locker rooms, bathrooms, etc. At the very least, there should be nothing punishable if there isn't any actual abuse going on. We never changed society by just conforming to it and accepting its quirks.

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yemmy
07/04/21 5:58:21 AM
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Flauros
07/04/21 6:00:56 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
But that is my response. I think we need to abolish gendered locker rooms, bathrooms, etc. At the very least, there should be nothing punishable if there isn't any actual abuse going on. We never changed society by just conforming to it and accepting its quirks.
Fucking what?

You know how bad that kind of shit would go over, especially when adolescents are involved?

This is fucking unhinged. All in the sake of not hurting the fee fees of a fraction of the percent of the population?

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 6:04:38 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Is that an actual right? Is anyone outraging if they see an ugly person with the same genitalia as them in a locker room? What's the difference?

When you go into a locker room, you're giving consent to being naked around other naked people who have the same genitalia as yourself. Whether those other people are old or young, ugly or attractive doesn't come into it. I cover myself up when changing underwear to swimming shorts or drying myself. Some men though are happy to walk around the changing room naked without a care in the world for who sees.

One swimming pool I go to has a mixed gender changing room but you're only allowed to be naked within your own cubicle. You still have to shower with your bathing costume on. That's how it should be for changing rooms.

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UnfairRepresent
07/04/21 6:10:42 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
But that is my response. I think we need to abolish gendered locker rooms, bathrooms, etc. At the very least, there should be nothing punishable if there isn't any actual abuse going on. We never changed society by just conforming to it and accepting its quirks.
Thats extremely short sighted and arrogant

You're not the only person in the universe

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Lorenzo_2003
07/04/21 6:15:03 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Weve already had a 500 topic about this.

Did it resolve the conflict?

I didnt see the end, so I dont know.

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yemmy
07/04/21 6:23:21 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Did it resolve the conflict?

I didnt see the end, so I dont know.

Lol

Is a conflict ever resolved on here? Or the internet in general.

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CyricZ
07/04/21 7:08:13 AM
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The gun is good the penis is evil.

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Fony
07/04/21 7:19:03 AM
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She really shut that CEman up in the video, lol.

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indica
07/04/21 7:21:05 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Thats extremely short sighted and arrogant

You're not the only person in the universe
Repeat these words to yourself

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I4NRulez
07/04/21 7:48:00 AM
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I read a comment on reddit saying the spa doesn't allow nudity in the spot they were at. So the Trans person was breaking the rules.

I couldn't confirm it though

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Bass_X0
07/04/21 7:54:16 AM
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This always comes off as very discriminatory and demeaning towards anyone with a penis, be it a man or a pre-op trans woman.

Gendered changing rooms have always been intentionally discriminatory towards anyone who doesn't have the specified genitalia required to enter. Its the whole point why gendered changing rooms exist and is firmly ingrained and accepted by most of society. By comparison, transitioning from one gender to another is a very recent and modern thing so society has yet to adapt.

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Joyroctillery
07/04/21 8:08:34 AM
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toyota posted...
Isnt it pretty much a given that change rooms and bathrooms are divided via Sex rather than Gender?
No, and you know it.
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Joyroctillery
07/04/21 8:10:18 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
It seems in this situation that if you support the cis woman's right, you are transphobic. If you support the pre-op woman's right, you are misogynistic. Both rights are infringing upon the other.
No it isn't. The women are being transphobic and should be ignored.
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Bass_X0
07/04/21 8:24:22 AM
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Joyroctillery posted...
No it isn't. The women are being transphobic and should be ignored.

its not transphobic for a woman to not want to to be naked around someone, especially a stranger, who has a penis who is also naked. Someone with a penis needs to ask a woman to give consent to see that penis.

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Joyroctillery
07/04/21 8:26:49 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
its not transphobic
Yes, it is. Moving on.
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Bumjuice001
07/04/21 8:27:02 AM
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They should just have a penis room and a vagina room. No questions asked but if you fall in between than its your choice.
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Bass_X0
07/04/21 8:28:44 AM
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Joyroctillery posted...
Yes, it is. Moving on.

no its not. Youre denying a woman the right to refuse to give consent to see a penis of a stranger.

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CyricZ
07/04/21 8:29:41 AM
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Bumjuice001 posted...
They should just have a penis room and a vagina room. No questions asked but if you fall in between than its your choice.
You're going to send a pre-op trans man to "the vagina room"?

One thing that's amusing about these topics is people think literally far enough to slam into the brick wall ahead of them.

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Bumjuice001
07/04/21 8:31:38 AM
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CyricZ posted...
You're going to send a pre-op trans man to "the vagina room"?

One thing that's amusing about these topics is people think literally far enough to slam into the brick wall ahead of them.

If thats their equipment than yes.
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