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legendarylemur
07/07/21 9:40:05 PM
#151:


Yeah Matsuri has since voicechatted with viewers in Apex. But for some time Towa did it first and as the only one as an offensively cute Merry Christmas thing to her viewers on voice chat (plenty of girls have interacted with viewers in the form of text vs speech).

I'm sure Suisei could get her way whether or not the viewers like it, but she's collabed with guys b4. Those 2 guys who cook for other vtubers and do singing stuff with them. She appeared on their show with Toko and did a cover song with them, though nothing much after. Also guys have wrote all of their songs, and her artist is a guy. I feel like the more mainstream Holo becomes, the sentiment of guys not being allowed in their presence is gonna die out or at least be drowned. Not many in the Western crowd would ever tolerate that kinda anti-guy behavior either.

I dunno, bruh, these people have to be like one of those guys who will gaga at any girls past a certain threshold of attractiveness, but most people don't tend to flirt with professional connections, unless their proximity is just always so short on a daily basis, then some sketch starts to start.

Also would like to mention Towa-sama has been in multiple Apex tourneys with guys, so has Matsuri. In fact, Selly (a Korean guy with a female avatar btw, who speaks basic Japanese) and Towa's friendship was something that people found quite endearing actually, which I think supports my opinion that most of this sentiment is no longer really a thing anymore, and many some girls are just scared of a past tendency. Selly and Towa is teaming up again, now with Met, in the upcoming CR cup

Also shout outs to Met again, cuz her voice is cute as hell, and she also screams like a doofus and it's funi

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LordFarquad1312
07/07/21 9:52:45 PM
#152:


https://www.twitch.tv/elirapendora

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SkyUmbreon
07/07/21 10:02:14 PM
#153:


I think the issue with Towa would be that the other men aren't part of the same company, but Holostars is.

That being said, I think you're right. The people who would have had an issue left Towa's viewership after that incident and she's built a different fanbase.

And I forgot to mention, but Suisei actually HAS collaborated with Holostars. She and Roberu did a crossover episode of their respective radio shows, and another one is coming up next week.

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legendarylemur
07/07/21 10:07:16 PM
#154:


Oh dang, I didn't know about the radio show crossover. Sadly her radio shows rarely get comprehensive TL. Her and Roberu would be a very interesting chemistry lol. But yeah I think also ID collabing often with the Stars definitely also helped erase that sentiment.

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SkyUmbreon
07/07/21 10:12:59 PM
#155:


legendarylemur posted...
Oh dang, I didn't know about the radio show crossover. Sadly her radio shows rarely get comprehensive TL. Her and Roberu would be a very interesting chemistry lol. But yeah I think also ID collabing often with the Stars definitely also helped erase that sentiment.

Yeah. The archive is also behind a paywall.

From the minimal discussion on it that I found, Suisei asked Roberu to call her "Sui-chan" and Roberu insisted on calling her "Senpai" and she got annoyed at it (jokingly).

Then they traded some banter on twitter about Roberu basically forcing Suisei to act like a senpai and she said something like "I guess I'll have to act with the air of a senpai now..." or something like that. It's been a bit since I saw that, but that was the general sentiment.

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Byakuren
07/07/21 10:18:01 PM
#156:


The only ones I can see having an issue collabing with guys are the ones who lean hard into the whole GFE

Otherwise there'll be a bit of backlash but everyone would get over it and most of the drama would just be caused by antis pretending to be fans

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kirbymuncher
07/07/21 10:34:30 PM
#157:


I think there are more viewers who don't really care for it than you'd realize, considering the general reception of when fubuki/matsuri does it. there's also at least some number of streamers from the hololive side who wouldn't want to do that sort of cross collab just because they personally wouldn't want to, I think

I always have a little laugh over what subaru said once when chat asked about holostars collab possibility, which was basically something like "Well, holostars are sort of like idols, right? they've got that sort of image to them? I wouldn't want to collab with them and accidentally make their fans jealous or angry or something"

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SkyUmbreon
07/07/21 10:48:27 PM
#158:


kirbymuncher posted...
I think there are more viewers who don't really care for it than you'd realize, considering the general reception of when fubuki/matsuri does it. there's also at least some number of streamers from the hololive side who wouldn't want to do that sort of cross collab just because they personally wouldn't want to, I think

I always have a little laugh over what subaru said once when chat asked about holostars collab possibility, which was basically something like "Well, holostars are sort of like idols, right? they've got that sort of image to them? I wouldn't want to collab with them and accidentally make their fans jealous or angry or something"

I mean, she's not joking. Both Astel and Izuru(?) got hate from their own fans for tweeting at the girls. Astel in particular because I think he commented on Amelia's stream once. But they both told those people to fuck off. And Astel gave that whole speech about how Vtubers are not your friends.

A different approach than the girls, but they've made it clear they're entertainers.

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legendarylemur
07/08/21 1:44:33 AM
#159:


Yeah thank goodness Astel's mostly moved on and even have a whole imouto/aniki thing with Ollie that I rarely ever see outright hate for. Usually when I'm in Astel's chat, it's Apex aficionados and like half English and Japanese. I heavily doubt you can even watch Apex content if you have some problem with male/female relationship and banter and such, because 90% of Japanese Apex content are like mixed sex.

Man why couldn't it be like that here, too, what gives

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02fran
07/08/21 6:43:20 AM
#160:


pogo_rabid posted...
Hopefully that's the last time MLP is mentioned in any one of these topics.

I'm not a brony but I've seen some clips and it's basically magical girls.
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Ushiromiya
07/08/21 6:54:15 AM
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legendarylemur
07/08/21 7:00:07 AM
#162:


Suisei just announced that she's releasing her first album. Seemingly August.

It supposedly has about 6-7 songs that haven't been released yet

What a hustle

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Ushiromiya
07/08/21 7:50:15 AM
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Voidgolem
07/08/21 9:15:57 AM
#164:


smol indie company youtube bans Marine again for a couple hours.

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1337toothbrush
07/08/21 9:35:26 AM
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GiftedACIII
07/08/21 9:37:39 AM
#166:


kirbymuncher posted...
I think your reasoning for this is wrong <_<

Yes, it's harder to overturn youtube channel takedowns without company backing. And yes, the most notable ones tend to be part of a company. But I think that's mostly just because companies can provide advertising/publicity, support with things like tech / avatars / designs / etc, help push for tie-ins / collabs outside the company, and just generally assist in managing things

There's so many random small indie vtubers (or even just smallish companies) that aren't really well known because they don't have the instant publicity that comes from being attached to a big known brand name. Can't get big if you don't stand out somehow for people to find you in the first place


That's what I'm referring to. When small indie vtubers get unjustly shut down they can't do anything about it and either have to create a new channel, create a public outcry with help from reddit and twitter, or give it up while company associated vtubers usually get overturned within the day.
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SuperShake666
07/08/21 11:01:21 AM
#167:


Puglia77 posted...
Are we supposed to want to fuck the VTubers? Is there even any porn of them?

There's an entire subreddit of it.

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1337toothbrush
07/08/21 12:32:12 PM
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Ushiromiya
07/08/21 12:34:19 PM
#169:


Been a minute since I've thought about Marine's huge gigantic dumptruck ass.

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ModLogic
07/08/21 7:17:03 PM
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kirbymuncher
07/08/21 8:06:47 PM
#171:


pogo_rabid posted...
matsuri voicechatted with viewers iirc
on a related note (not quite viewers, but...)
https://youtu.be/AieynXbEPho?t=2455 (watch until about 42:15 ish it's pretty funny)

someone on her team has the name of some japanese singer and she asks if they're the real one, they say yes (they obviously aren't) so she asks them to sing a song and there's just this awkward silence for a bit lol

there's another moment later where someone on her team says they watch her stream rarely, she asks who is their favourite hololive, after another awkward silence they say lamy and she's just like "well ok if that's how things are I guess I'm muting you then, bye"

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Ushiromiya
07/08/21 8:51:03 PM
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SkyUmbreon
07/08/21 10:55:50 PM
#173:


lol Holostars Manager told Shien to "go wild" on his 3D debut and Shien said "I'm going to destroy the studio" to which the manager said "it'll make Yagoo cry"

I'm excited for whatever Shien is planning

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LordFarquad1312
07/09/21 4:54:01 PM
#174:


Kiara trying to convince Gura to build a giant foot



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Funkydog
07/09/21 4:56:14 PM
#175:


Kiara just spitting honest truth and nothing more!

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Voidgolem
07/09/21 5:12:03 PM
#176:


Kiara please stop encouraging the chumbud foot nonsense

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Ushiromiya
07/09/21 5:17:04 PM
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1337toothbrush
07/09/21 5:52:37 PM
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pogo_rabid
07/09/21 7:15:32 PM
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LordFarquad1312
07/09/21 7:18:46 PM
#180:


Thanks, I hate it.

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1337toothbrush
07/09/21 7:41:28 PM
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pogo_rabid
07/10/21 5:57:07 AM
#182:


Apparently pekora thinks amouranth is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLTUzJkRBc



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1337toothbrush
07/10/21 8:12:05 AM
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SkyUmbreon
07/10/21 8:52:27 AM
#184:


Shien's 3D debut was amazing.

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Voidgolem
07/10/21 10:23:56 AM
#185:


after ten thousand years, Irys is finally released from Twitter Jail

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LordFarquad1312
07/10/21 11:37:03 AM
#186:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2dSsYk3w84&ab_channel=blubsubsv

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pogo_rabid
07/10/21 4:45:15 PM
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Voidgolem
07/10/21 4:46:48 PM
#188:


ngl I do dig the blue/white color scheme

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LordFarquad1312
07/10/21 9:01:23 PM
#189:


If there are no technical issues during IRyS's stream I refuse to acknowledge her as part of EN

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1337toothbrush
07/10/21 9:03:46 PM
#190:


It's starting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTU3TIZRUCM

Dang, a whole animated intro...

lots of clicking noises.

aaaand she's muted. Scuffmania 2021!

Hope has descended 4 times!

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LordFarquad1312
07/10/21 9:05:12 PM
#191:


I saw some Italian in there

No Italian though

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R_Jackal
07/10/21 9:09:18 PM
#192:


Scuff, the EN tradition.
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1337toothbrush
07/10/21 9:16:06 PM
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Voidgolem
07/10/21 9:16:46 PM
#194:


Can't have a new EN member without instant and pervasive collaboration work with the EN curse

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1337toothbrush
07/10/21 9:17:48 PM
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Voidgolem
07/10/21 9:20:36 PM
#196:


boy even on debut we've got a lot of material for clippers, huh

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LordFarquad1312
07/10/21 9:22:16 PM
#197:


She's waging war on Christmas!

The right was right all along!

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pogo_rabid
07/10/21 9:35:08 PM
#198:


"i love fanart please feel free to draw me"



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1337toothbrush
07/10/21 9:38:43 PM
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pogo_rabid
07/10/21 9:41:38 PM
#200:


light mode oof

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