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Xavier_On_High 07/02/21 3:45:42 PM #52: |
So what's weird about Michael Phelps' body?
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gunplagirl 07/02/21 3:46:08 PM #53: |
daynlokki posted...
Its not a racist effect as most female athletes who will test over the limit are XXY. They have the option to take a simple birth control pill that will literally get them under the limit and make the CHOICE not to despite KNOWING what the rules are. These women can and ARE still competing in the 200m in the olympics."Sorry your body isn't right, take these drugs to make you worse or you can't compete" --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROOTFayth 07/02/21 3:46:54 PM #54: |
averagejoel posted...
no, you need to explain why you think that racist results don't inherently mean that the policy was racist, without using contrived hypotheticalsok I'll make it real simple, the discrimination is unrelated to their race, it's because of their hormone levels, otherwise ANY discrimination could be viewed as racism, and that obviously wouldn't make sense hope you get it now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 3:47:26 PM #55: |
averagejoel posted...
no, you need to explain why you think that racist results don't inherently mean that the policy was racist, without using contrived hypotheticalsOk, 5 women cant run in races between 400-1600 meters. 4 of the 5 are XXY confirmed and 3 out of 5 are black. Is it racist? Or would you think the XXY had more to do with it overall? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 07/02/21 3:47:57 PM #56: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
So what's weird about Michael Phelps' body?I was also curious on this as this is the first I am hearing of it. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 3:48:30 PM #57: |
gunplagirl posted...
"Sorry your body isn't right, take these drugs to make you worse or you can't compete"Sorry you guys wanted testosterone levels tested so trans women couldnt compete, probably should have paid attention to your own levels before whining about theirs being an advantage that needed curtailing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 3:50:22 PM #58: |
ROOTFayth posted...
ok I'll make it real simple, the discrimination is unrelated to their race, it's because of their hormone levels, otherwise ANY discrimination could be viewed as racism, and that obviously wouldn't make sensethat's an incomplete view of what racism is. again: if a policy has a racist effect (such as barring a disproportionate number of black women from participating in an event), it is a racist policy regardless of the reasoning behind it --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 07/02/21 3:50:37 PM #59: |
daynlokki posted...
Sorry you guys wanted testosterone levels tested so trans women couldnt compete, probably should have paid attention to your own levels before whining about theirs being an advantage that needed curtailing.That's also correct. It's ultimately down to them trying to punish transgender people. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 3:51:41 PM #60: |
averagejoel posted...
that's an incomplete view of what racism is.So by that reasoning, if it targeted more white people then black it would equally be racist? So everything is a racist policy since some race is guaranteed to be affected at a disproportionate rate? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 3:51:54 PM #61: |
daynlokki posted...
Ok, 5 women cant run in races between 400-1600 meters. 4 of the 5 are XXY confirmed and 3 out of 5 are black. Is it racist? Or would you think the XXY had more to do with it overall?it doesn't matter if the XXY had more to do with it overall. it's still racist unless black women make up 3/5 of olympic runners --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROOTFayth 07/02/21 3:54:16 PM #63: |
averagejoel posted...
that's an incomplete view of what racism is.yeah I mean youre wrong, not much else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 3:54:55 PM #64: |
averagejoel posted...
it doesn't matter if the XXY had more to do with it overall. it's still racist unless black women make up 3/5 of olympic runnersFor sprinters? Probably higher. XXY would be far less prevalent. I think the last non-black winner of the mens 100m was in 1982. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20120805-france-usain-bolt-black-sprinters-dominate-olympics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/02/21 3:56:12 PM #65: |
Zero_Destroyer posted...
https://twitter.com/AfricaFactsZone/status/1410880763290132481 ...but that's what's going to start happening when you begin to change the rules. They have to make arbitrary cutoffs to avoid abuse, and unfortunately some people who would have had a natural advantage will get banned as a result. So ironically enough, guidelines designed to promote inclusion will sometimes exclude cisgendered women. Granted, the other option is to get rid of gendered competitions and just let everybody compete for the same prizes. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquantoZ 07/02/21 3:58:12 PM #66: |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/02/swimming-caps-for-natural-black-hair-ruled-out-of-olympic-games-alice-dearing
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Shablagoo 07/02/21 4:00:13 PM #67: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
So what's weird about Michael Phelps' body? Mistere Man posted... I was also curious on this as this is the first I am hearing of it. I wouldnt use the term weird but what theyre probably referring to is that he has Marfan syndrome. https://hartfordhealthcare.org/services/heart-vascular/conditions/marfan-syndrome --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:00:49 PM #68: |
SquantoZ posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/02/swimming-caps-for-natural-black-hair-ruled-out-of-olympic-games-alice-dearingThatd be like posting the NFL helmet rules. For how many years now have they only been able to use one helmet? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PC-Builder_Pony 07/02/21 4:02:48 PM #69: |
Well that sucks
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:04:29 PM #70: |
daynlokki posted...
For sprinters? Probably higher. XXY would be far less prevalent. I think the last non-black winner of the mens 100m was in 1982.your hypothetical was about women in the 400-1600 categories. don't move the goalposts here --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 07/02/21 4:05:19 PM #71: |
Shablagoo posted...
I wouldnt use the term weird but what theyre probably referring to is that he has Marfan syndrome.Interesting, and thank you. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:06:26 PM #72: |
averagejoel posted...
your hypothetical was about women in the 400-1600 categories. don't move the goalposts here400-1600 is still predominantly black athletes, especially for women. It also wasnt a hypothetical. Its whats actually happening. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 07/02/21 4:06:54 PM #73: |
Were they deemed well enough to compete with males? Isnt that a win?
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:08:20 PM #74: |
daynlokki posted...
400-1600 is still predominantly black athletes, especially for women. It also wasnt a hypothetical. Its whats actually happening.do black women make up at least 3/5 of the olympic runners in those categories? --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:09:51 PM #75: |
averagejoel posted...
do black women make up at least 3/5 of the olympic runners in those categories?Feel free to look it up yourself. My names not Google. Youre the one making the assertion its racist for not being equal to the runners in the field percentage wise. Without knowing what the actual percentage of black athletes even are in the field. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:11:14 PM #76: |
daynlokki posted...
Feel free to look it up yourself. My names not Google.you're the one trying to say that it's not racist. you provide the evidence --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:12:38 PM #77: |
ROOTFayth posted...
yeah I mean youre wrong, not much else to sayhow did you determine this? --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:12:52 PM #78: |
averagejoel posted...
you're the one trying to say that it's not racist. you provide the evidenceOk, well youre saying it is without any evidence. So find it yourself bud. But just throwing it out that the races in question at the last olympics were ~70% black runners. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:15:15 PM #79: |
daynlokki posted...
Ok, well youre saying it is without any evidence. So find it yourself bud.I did not say that, and I would appreciate it if you would engage with the things I say instead of making shit up --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:16:33 PM #80: |
averagejoel posted...
I did not say that, and I would appreciate it if you would engage with the things I say instead of making shit upSo you didnt say this was racist? Weird. You made an assertion this was disproportionately affecting black athletes and didnt actually take the time to make sure it actually was. So do your own homework instead of making shit up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 07/02/21 4:17:09 PM #81: |
Mistere Man posted...
Interesting, and thank you. np --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:17:37 PM #82: |
averagejoel posted...
it doesn't matter if the XXY had more to do with it overall. it's still racist unless black women make up 3/5 of olympic runnersOh wait you did say it was racist. So whyd you say this without first checking to see if 3/5 of the runners in these races were blac? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 07/02/21 4:22:35 PM #83: |
I don't like the use of the word Whites here. Races should never been used a noun. But the video is funny.
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FarFromFields 07/02/21 4:44:05 PM #84: |
ROOTFayth posted...
hmm no you're wrong, if you get 20 people, 10 white people and 10 black people, the black people all commit murder and the white people do nothing, all the black people goes to prison while the white people don't, this isn't racism even if the results without any context may look like itIt's really suspicious that your mind immediately jumps to "Black people are murderers." --- Just because this life ain't easy, doesn't make it bad... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 07/02/21 4:44:07 PM #85: |
Shablagoo posted...
I wouldnt use the term weird but what theyre probably referring to is that he has Marfan syndrome. RIP Marfan Apparently Phelps doesn't have it, according to his autobiography. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 4:46:16 PM #86: |
daynlokki posted...
Oh wait you did say it was racist. So whyd you say this without first checking to see if 3/5 of the runners in these races were blac?I said: if it results in a disproportionate number of black people being disallowed, it is racist --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 4:51:41 PM #87: |
averagejoel posted...
I said:Yes without actually knowing whether or not it is actually targeting a disproportionate number of black people. Do your own damn homework, stop expecting it spoon fed to you. As stated, its not, so youre wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dathrowed1 07/02/21 4:58:06 PM #89: |
Lol at using Michael Phelps. Just shows lack of knowledge on anthroprometry. Oddest thing about him is his legs are pretty short
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Sphyx 07/02/21 5:02:34 PM #90: |
A few people ITT making a strong case for their opinions being considered null and void.
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Tyranthraxus 07/02/21 5:04:43 PM #91: |
Dathrowed1 posted...
Lol at using Michael Phelps. Just shows lack of knowledge on anthroprometry. Oddest thing about him is his legs are pretty short That's not what they're talking about. Phelps was tested after a race and they found he had only 1/3rd the amount of lactic acid of other swimmers in the same race. This means his recovery after a workout is much faster than other athletes which means he can train more often. It's not the same thing as being tall which gives an advantage during the game itself. Phelps has an edge on training. This is more similar to high testosterone women. Merely having high testosterone doesn't make you more athletic, but if you train to be athletic you will have better results than other women. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 5:06:41 PM #92: |
daynlokki posted...
Yes without actually knowing whether or not it is actually targeting a disproportionate number of black people. Do your own damn homework, stop expecting it spoon fed to you. As stated, its not, so youre wrong.my statement is true whether or not it applies to this specific case --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 07/02/21 5:06:45 PM #93: |
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Just goes to show that at the heart of all trans- and homophobia is good old-fashioned misogyny It's the same why they try to concern troll about women's sports whenever college athletes talk about getting paid --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 5:09:34 PM #94: |
averagejoel posted...
my statement is true whether or not it applies to this specific caseOk so nmr me one thing in the world that doesnt disproportionally affect one race over another. Find me something that 100% fits the perfect demographics. Otherwise, everything is racist. Obesity? Racist. Driving? Racist. Cable television? Racist. Covid disproportionally affects blacks and Hispanics. It racist too? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yutterh 07/02/21 5:15:06 PM #95: |
Seems they undershirt how much testosterone a woman can natural have. Also wasn't testosterone measured before to keep out people that use steroids or other illegal performance enhancing drugs? I mainly just think stuff like obvious abuse like in that south park episode. But at the same time soem men could have woman levels of testosterone. It's a complexe issue. I think the real danger though is mma trans athletes, as it could end up with a deadly situation, do to bone structure and stuff from high testosterone growing up and a late transition. Which then takes into the question how early should someone transition. I support trans people for sure and their rights. But their are situations in sports that can arise and effect their ability. Transitioning too early or too late. It definitely needs more research and we are all just trying to find the beat way to support them while also making sure non transitioned woman have a fair playing field as well.
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cjsdowg 07/02/21 5:15:28 PM #96: |
daynlokki posted...
Ok so nmr me one thing in the world that doesnt disproportionally affect one race over another. Find me something that 100% fits the perfect demographics. Otherwise, everything is racist. Obesity? Racist. Driving? Racist. Cable television? Racist. Covid disproportionally affects blacks and Hispanics. It racist too? The reason it impacts minorities more is from years of racism. --- Kamala Harris: "I don't think America is a racist country" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/02/21 5:22:23 PM #97: |
daynlokki posted...
Ok so make me one thing in the world that doesnt disproportionally affect one race over another. Find me something that 100% fits the perfect demographics. Otherwise, everything is racist. Obesity? Racist. Driving? Racist. Cable television? Racist. Covid disproportionally affects blacks and Hispanics. It racist too?covid-19 itself isn't racist, but the effect it has on a given demographic is not due exclusively to the virus itself. for example: the US medical system is racist the history that leads to black and hispanic people in the US being poorer (and thus more likely to be working jobs that put them at high risk of contact with covid-19 in the first place) is racist --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 5:24:16 PM #98: |
averagejoel posted...
covid-19 itself isn't racist, but the effect it has on a given demographic is not due exclusively to the virus itself.What about everything else? Still waiting for what you would consider NOT racist if anything that disproportionally affects a race is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfThaJedi 07/02/21 5:26:33 PM #99: |
Kylo_Ren_ posted...
Look Im high as shit right now, but I think the real question is how the fuck is your username a character that wasnt created until 10 years after your account was created? --- https://vine.co/v/OnxDJZlq5nF #1 RWBY Superfan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/02/21 5:27:25 PM #100: |
ReturnOfThaJedi posted...
Look Im high as shit right now, but I think the real question is how the fuck is your username a character that wasnt created until 10 years after your account was created?Name change --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 07/02/21 5:27:26 PM #101: |
ReturnOfThaJedi posted...
Look Im high as shit right now, but I think the real question is how the fuck is your username a character that wasnt created until 10 years after your account was created?Some people have changed their username. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 07/02/21 5:27:36 PM #102: |
^ if you've been a poster long enough, you can put in a request to change your username, iirc
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