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Robot2600
06/13/21 10:49:38 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/13/europe/putin-russia-cyber-criminals-intl/index.html

From the article:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said his nation is prepared to extradite cyber criminals to the United States on a reciprocal basis, Russia's state-run TASS news agency reported Sunday.

According to TASS, Putin told state TV channel Rossiya-1 that both Russia and the US must "assume equal commitments," adding that "Russia will naturally do that but only if the other side, in this case the United States, agrees to the same and will also extradite corresponding criminals to the Russian Federation."

Snowden would definitely be included in this.

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:53:00 AM
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Extradition is a huge fucking mess to negotiate so I'd be interested in seeing how that turns out.

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xXfireglzXx
06/13/21 10:54:51 AM
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If I'm Snowden I start thinking of ways to kill myself now in case this comes to fruition. I'm sure Russia has some bomb plastic surgeons too (pun maybe intended)

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:55:30 AM
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Snowden should get a pardon

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BilalPowell
06/13/21 10:55:45 AM
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Maybe it's time for him to move to Ukraine?

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Old_Monkey
06/13/21 10:56:32 AM
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Snowden was the military intelligence guy, right? Asange was owner of Wikileaks. I just want to make sure I am remember this correctly. Actually, Im entirely surprised to hear its still relevant to anyone.
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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:57:25 AM
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Old_Monkey posted...
Snowden was the military intelligence guy, right? Asange was owner of Wikileaks. I just want to make sure I am remember this correctly. Actually, Im entirely surprised to hear its still relevant to anyone.

Yes.

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Robot2600
06/13/21 10:57:42 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Snowden should get a pardon

He's said he would accept a trial by jury in America, he just doesn't want to disappear in Guantanamo Bay.

Seems pretty fair to me.

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clyde_frog
06/13/21 10:58:08 AM
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Snowdens probably thinking about moving to China at this point, dont you think?

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BilalPowell
06/13/21 10:58:23 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Snowden should get a pardon
Don't think Obama's vice president would give him a pardon

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:58:29 AM
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If I were on the jury I'd vote to nullify.

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:59:01 AM
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clyde_frog posted...
Snowdens probably thinking about moving to China at this point, dont you think?
China will throw him out.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/13/21 10:59:07 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
If I were on the jury I'd vote to nullify.

That's not really how that works
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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 10:59:33 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
That's not really how that works
That's exactly how that works.

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Old_Monkey
06/13/21 11:00:06 AM
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Wow.....

Well. Didnt want anything to do with that back in the day either. I remember some of my friends were like all into it or whatever. Thats all I want to say about it. You know what I will do? I have canvassed and stuff for politicians I support.
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Anteaterking
06/13/21 11:07:24 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
in this case the United States, agrees to the same

I feel like this is just weasel wording.

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Robot2600
06/13/21 11:12:40 AM
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Anteaterking posted...
I feel like this is just weasel wording.

Yea, probably just Putin talking out of his ass.

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Shezarr
06/13/21 11:17:17 AM
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Good.

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RadiantJoyrock
06/13/21 11:22:04 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Snowden should get a pardon
While I'm not actually that against what he revealed, I agree. He did what an honest American should.
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Shezarr
06/13/21 11:33:11 AM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
While I'm not actually that against what he revealed, I agree. He did what an honest American should.
Giving national security secrets to hostile powers?

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 11:35:56 AM
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Shezarr posted...
Giving national security secrets to hostile powers?

Weird way to spell "exposed massive 4th amendment violations"

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xXfireglzXx
06/13/21 11:36:45 AM
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Shezarr posted...
Giving national security secrets to hostile powers?

"Anyone who exposes my crimes is a criminal."

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Gwynevere
06/13/21 11:44:20 AM
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Shezarr posted...
Giving national security secrets to hostile powers?
Bad take

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Shezarr
06/13/21 11:53:53 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Weird way to spell "exposed massive 4th amendment violations"
Im talking about him going to other countries and giving them info, not exposing what happened here.

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Irony
06/13/21 11:58:12 AM
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I would've been for a pardon, but he went to Russia so treason and execution is fair.

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 12:02:06 PM
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Irony posted...
I would've been for a pardon, but he went to Russia so treason and execution is fair.
That's not what treason is.

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Shezarr
06/13/21 12:02:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
That's not what treason is.
Giving state secrets to hostile powers is absolutely textbook treason

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Irony
06/13/21 12:03:22 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
That's not what treason is.
Giving state secrets to a hostile power absolutely is

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Polycosm
06/13/21 12:05:29 PM
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What state secrets did Snowden give to Russia, precisely?

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 12:05:49 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Giving state secrets to hostile powers is absolutely textbook treason


Irony posted...
Giving state secrets to a hostile power absolutely is

Treason is the only crime defined in the constitution and it's only 2 things.

  1. Waging war against the united States
  2. Defecting to someone we're at war with


Snowden did neither.

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Shezarr
06/13/21 12:06:30 PM
#33:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Treason is the only crime defined in the constitution and it's only 2 things.

1. Waging war against the united States
2. Defecting to someone we're at war with

Snowden did neither.
Aiding enemies is explicitly mentioned in that same clause. Reread it lmao

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Funkydog
06/13/21 12:09:18 PM
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Did Snowden actually give anything to Russia specifically? I thought he just fled there as only place that wouldn't just hand him over, after he released everything.

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Tyranthraxus
06/13/21 12:09:23 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Aiding enemies is explicitly mentioned in that same clause. Reread it lmao
Aiding enemies in war against the united States. We're not at war with Russia and even if we were he didn't give them any aid in war.

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What_
06/13/21 12:12:24 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Im talking about him going to other countries and giving them info, not exposing what happened here.
Thats not what he did
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1337toothbrush
06/13/21 12:13:53 PM
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Idiots are more angry at Snowden for revealing that their rights are getting trampled than the fact that their rights are getting trampled.

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/13/21 12:14:54 PM
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Is Snowden a convicted criminal? If not does he have anyone with deep pockets or law firms willing to fight?

Joe Rogan, nows your chance

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Shezarr
06/13/21 12:15:37 PM
#39:


What_ posted...
Thats not what he did
Except he did, is the thing

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Old_Monkey
06/13/21 12:15:50 PM
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If I may

I suspect the government was merely intervening in an otherwise questionable situation involving the use of data. But, were not talking about that. You can. I wont. Ciao
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What_
06/13/21 12:16:22 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Except he did, is the thing
He released the info to everyone corky

not just a random country
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Shezarr
06/13/21 12:18:43 PM
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What_ posted...
He released the info to everyone corky

not just a random country
Im not talking about that info

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What_
06/13/21 12:19:22 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Im not talking about that info
ah so we are supposed to just read your mind

got It

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Shezarr
06/13/21 12:20:06 PM
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What_ posted...
ah so we are supposed to just read your mind

got It

nice move of the goalposts
Its not moving the goalposts if I said from the beginning thats not what im talking about. Literacy is a hell of a thing

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What_
06/13/21 12:21:01 PM
#46:


Shezarr posted...
Its not moving the goalposts if I said from the beginning thats not what im talking about. Literacy is a hell of a thing
And yet you still havent explain yourself just go away dude nobody cares
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Omnislasher
06/13/21 12:21:31 PM
#48:


Old_Monkey posted...
Wow.....

Well. Didnt want anything to do with that back in the day either. I remember some of my friends were like all into it or whatever. Thats all I want to say about it. You know what I will do? I have canvassed and stuff for politicians I support.

Old_Monkey posted...
If I may

I suspect the government was merely intervening in an otherwise questionable situation involving the use of data. But, were not talking about that. You can. I wont. Ciao

well you're an odd duck, aren't ya?
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Choco
06/13/21 12:22:37 PM
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Old_Monkey
06/13/21 12:25:15 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
well you're an odd duck, aren't ya?
Maybe
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