Current Events > Scooby Doo's Velma to be Indian in Mindy Kaling's new series.

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FortuneCookie posted...

I wonder how mad people would get if Fred were Black.

I'm all for it

FortuneCookie posted...

The very first Black person to appear on the show, Fred accused him of being the culprit within seconds.

<_<

And black Fred can instantly assume every white dude did it. It can still work.

Ok fine you guys can have black Freddie but he's gotta lose the ascot

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eston posted...

Ok fine you guys can have black Freddie but he's gotta lose the ascot

oh come on, Black Fred with an Ascot? think of the ratings.

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eston posted...

Ok fine you guys can have black Freddie but he's gotta lose the ascot

I dont care what color Fred is, as long as he HAS an ascot.

it might be the most important aspect of the character

For reference, the accusation comes in The Scooby Doo Show episode, The Ghost That Sacked the Quarterback. It's right at the five minute mark.

Crunch Connors: "If I were you kids, I'd get out of here with that ghost running around."
Shaggy: "You heard the man. Let's get out of here."
Scooby: "Yeah."
Fred: "Not so fast, you two. We've got a mystery to solve. Excuse me, Coach Baxter. Who is that player?"
Coach Baxter: "Well, that's Crunch Conners. He's replacing Flash Ranger."
Fred: "Replacing Flash? Very interesting."



Seconds later, Crunch Connors is abducted and, thus, is not the culprit.

I know it's already been pointed out, but how big of a fail is it for TC to think east asian meant indian?

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Wait, is that the accusation? Because thats not an accusation

codey posted...

I know it's already been pointed out, but how big of a fail is it for TC to think east asian meant indian?

I am indian lol. I just assumed Mindy would be playing Velma, which is why i only put her name in the title..

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codey posted...

I know it's already been pointed out, but how big of a fail is it for TC to think east asian meant indian?

Well, I personally dont know which direct Asian equals which country equivalent, but I probably wouldn't try and guess

TheVipaGTS posted...

I am indian lol. I just assumed Mindy would be playing Velma, which is why i only put her name in the title..

As somebody who doesnt know which direction Asian equals which country equivalent, did you know East Asian did not mean Indian? Or are you as ignorant as I am?

MICHALECOLE posted...

As somebody who doesnt know which direction Asian equals which country equivalent, did you know East Asian did not mean Indian? Or are you as ignorant as I am?

Despite my family not even being from that region, i did know India is Southern.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Despite my family not even being from that region, i did know India is Southern.

Still the ignorance champion

MICHALECOLE posted...

Wait, is that the accusation? Because thats not an accusation

His facial expressions and tone of voice both imply he thinks they've found their culprit. I guess that doesn't come through in plain text. lol.

In the context of the show, Fred is suspicious that Crunch Connors has gotten the star player out of the way so that he can be the standout.

I know it's unintentional, but it's still a bad look. The first time in the show the blond White guy sees a Black guy, he immediately thinks he has a suspect.

FortuneCookie posted...

His facial expressions and tone of voice both imply he thinks they've found their culprit. I guess that doesn't come through in plain text. lol.

In the context of the show, Fred is suspicious that Crunch Connors has gotten the star player out of the way so that he can be the standout.

I know it's unintentional, but it's still a bad look. The first time in the show the blond White guy sees a Black guy, he immediately thinks he has a suspect.

But he had actual reason to, it wasnt just like lmao are you guys serious? Obviously it was the black dude

I dont think its a bad look at all Unless you want it to be

MICHALECOLE posted...

But he had actual reason to, it wasnt just like lmao are you guys serious? Obviously it was the black dude

I dont think its a bad look at all Unless you want it to be

i don't think he's saying it was intentional. Just funny that the first black character was immediately put into that role.

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Will Daphne be made black?

That is the pattern after all.

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Scooby Dooby Doo, whats wrong with you?
Youre such an awful mascot.
No one understands a single word you say,
Not even the jerk in the ascot.

:3

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velmas race is irrelevant

What_ posted...

velmas race is irrelevant

So is fat alberts

TheVipaGTS posted...

i don't think he's saying it was intentional. Just funny that the first black character was immediately put into that role.

Exactly.

The first time in the show that we see a Black character, Fred thinks he has the culprit. It feels like something out of a Family Guy cutaway gag.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Will Daphne be made black?

That is the pattern after all.

In the recent animated movie, Scoob, they added a woman rather than give the redhead a race change.

FortuneCookie posted...

In the recent animated movie, Scoob, they added a woman rather than give the redhead a race change.

You know I generally don't really care about race changing characters, but it honestly is pretty damn fascinating that Hollywood really does replace red headed characters with black people. I mean it's just so specific that it's odd. It's like they see red hair and then it triggers this thought process subconsciously or something.
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spanky1 posted...

You know I generally don't really care about race changing characters, but it honestly is pretty damn fascinating that Hollywood really does replace red headed characters with black people. I mean it's just so specific that it's odd. It's like they see red hair and then it triggers this thought process subconsciously or something.

Well, if we have to get rid of one of our white characters for a black one, might as well be the ones with no souls

MICHALECOLE posted...

So is fat alberts

I think black people would prefer him not being black anymore.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

I think black people would prefer him not being black anymore.

Webmaster4531 posted...

I think black people would prefer him not being black anymore.

Puddin pops

spanky1 posted...

You know I generally don't really care about race changing characters, but it honestly is pretty damn fascinating that Hollywood really does replace red headed characters with black people. I mean it's just so specific that it's odd. It's like they see red hair and then it triggers this thought process subconsciously or something.

There's a definitely a pattern.

If I were to venture to guess, I think it's because redheads are usually stereotyped as being "the sexy one(s)."

When a redheaded White woman becomes a Black woman, there's normally a secondary change to the character that makes her less attractive than she was before. She becomes withdrawn when she used to be outgoing. She becomes a nerd when she used to be the girl next door. She's dressed up in body armor when she used to wear something figure-fitting. In that regard, it becomes a two-for-one special. The casting is more inclusive and they've eliminated the character who might be seen as a liability.

I hate to go off on a "Hollywood is making characters less sexy" tangent, but I think those secondary changes are the driving motive as to why redheads are usually the ones getting hit with the diversity ball. That, or maybe they got tired of making blond characters Black and decided to start tagging redheads with it.

The onky reason it was done for this new show is because Mindy Kaling is heavily involved in the show in addition to voicing Velma. So Velma is being designed to resemble her. There is no woke agenda here. It's ego.

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I think it's fair enough for a voice actor to want their character to look something like them.

Besides, it's difficult to stress the importance of ethnicity-specific casting *cough*Simpsons*cough* if you allow an Indian woman to play a White woman.

creativerealms posted...

The onky reason it was done for this new show is because Mindy Kaling is heavily involved in the show in addition to voicing Velma. So Velma is being designed to resemble her. There is no woke agenda here. It's ego.

Mindy Kaling isn't east asian

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FortuneCookie posted...

In the recent animated movie, Scoob, they added a woman rather than give the redhead a race change.

And they didn't create her as she is an existing Hanna Barbara charater.

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spanky1 posted...

You know I generally don't really care about race changing characters, but it honestly is pretty damn fascinating that Hollywood really does replace red headed characters with black people. I mean it's just so specific that it's odd. It's like they see red hair and then it triggers this thought process subconsciously or something.

Black people can be red heads. Some look p cute too.

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i havent given a single crap about Scooby Doo since i was a kid so...

Should have made Daphne Indian

Making Velma Indian just feeds into stereotypes from the conservative snowflakes that will rage over this

Smashingpmkns posted...

No one will ever top Linda Cardellini.

I would top Linda Cardellini
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creativerealms posted...

And they didn't create her as she is an existing Hanna Barbara charater.

Is she from Josie and the Pussycats?

Ascheim also said the new show would have theres no dog and no van but we have our 4 key characters through a different lens and I think its great.

Well thats pretty awful. Why would you take away the absolute main character of the show

Oh thats who this Mindy person is. Well it all makes sense now, get rid of the main character and change another .. just cant wait for people to blame the wrong thing when the show bombs and gets cancelled

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Ascheim also said the new show would have theres no dog and no van but we have our 4 key characters through a different lens and I think its great.

Oooooohhhh.... it's one of those "reimaginings" where everyone is the exact opposite of the general lore, only to assemble the tropes and trappings along the way, or suddenly at the very end.

No gang, no scooby, no van, no deal.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Ascheim also said the new show would have theres no dog and no van

???????????

Is it supposed to be an origin story?
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eston posted...

I don't just mean personality, Velma is a thicc nerdy-looking girl and that cosplayer isn't any of that

She's also 15.

Starks posted...

Is it supposed to be an origin story?

Seems like its just a new sitcom type of show with characters we already know. Sure it could be done with all new characters but having it be the scooby doo gang can be fun and hurts nothing IMO. Ill see what its like.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Seems like its just a new sitcom type of show with characters we already know.

We already got that, kinda, and it's awesome.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/scoob-and-shag/mayo/viewer?title_no=210827&episode_no=1

FortuneCookie posted...

The very first Black person to appear on the show, Fred accused him of being the culprit within seconds.

<_<

Lmao!

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Asian Velma has been done before.

There's 5 live action movies.

-The first two

-2 straight to DVD movies from 2009 and 2010 with Velma as an East Asian

-Daphne & Velma from 2018 where Daphne is black and Velma is white.

There's also the CGI movie from last year where Velma is Hispanic.

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DomingoGerman posted...

Should have made Daphne Indian

Making Velma Indian just feeds into stereotypes from the conservative snowflakes that will rage over this

One more time: india is not in east asia

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codey posted...

One more time: india is not in east asia

Velma being Indian is mistakenly in the topic title so just let it go.
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codey posted...

One more time: india is not in east asia

We get that. But Mindy is south Asian and were just assuming that if she gets a role on the show herself her character would also be south Asian regardless of where it takes place.

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An Indian actor playing a white character does not make the character Indian.

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