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Damn_Underscore
05/18/21 3:02:16 PM
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Shouldnt a person who has a large impact on American culture be considered American regardless of where they were born or their citizenship?

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mech dragon
05/18/21 3:05:10 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Shouldnt a person who has a large impact on American culture be considered American regardless of where they were born or their citizenship?
No. You want to to claim Benedict Cumberbatch as American? Celine Dion? Adele? Ryan Reynolds? How American of you to want to take credit from other people and make their work your own.

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monkmith
05/18/21 3:05:40 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Shouldnt a person who has a large impact on American culture be considered American regardless of where they were born or their citizenship?
plz no, that opens up a huge can of worms...

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KFChester
05/18/21 3:08:51 PM
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Jeremy Lin
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Damn_Underscore
05/18/21 3:23:50 PM
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mech dragon posted...
No. You want to to claim Benedict Cumberbatch as American? Celine Dion? Adele? Ryan Reynolds? How American of you to want to take credit from other people and make their work your own.

This isnt about claiming anything. Its pretty silly to have a checklist of specific things that must be done in order to be considered American (or any other nationality).

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mech dragon
05/18/21 3:36:20 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
This isnt about claiming anything. Its pretty silly to have a checklist of specific things that must be done in order to be considered American (or any other nationality).

That's because of USA's strict immigration policies (and general anti-immigration attitudes), but also people (in this case, Jacky Chan)'s own decision not to take on USA nationality. Keanu Reeves has also had a huge impact on USA culture. Would you want Keanu to be considered American as well? and why? As a non-US American, I just want to know why you would want non-US Americans to be considered Americans just because of how they've impacted your culture. Why not just appreciate that they come from their own nationality, and that USA is influenced by non-Americans?

There's lots of US Americans that have impacted pop and arts culture in Canada, who are not Canadian. Britney Spears, Beyonce, Stan Lee, etc. It would be ridiculous of me to say that they should be considered Canadians. They could be, but those checklist of things that they'd have to go through would be the same as that of a non-celebrity, and I think that's fair.

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Blue_Target
05/18/21 3:45:45 PM
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Gwynevere
05/18/21 3:52:50 PM
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Blue_Target posted...
Grant Imahara
Came in to say this

RIP

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Damn_Underscore
05/18/21 3:53:07 PM
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I know that Alex Trebek is from Canada because I watch Jeopardy a lot, but he lived in the US and it turns out he got his American citizenship in 1998. What if he didnt get his American citizenship? What if he retired from Jeopardy in 2004 and moved back to Canada for the rest of his life?

In Jackie Chans case I understand not calling him American because he doesnt associate with America anymore, but what about in the 90s when I assume he lived in America full-time? Would it have been helpful for someone to say actually, Jackie Chan isnt Asian-American hes just Asian. And also in Bruce Lees case, he was born in the US but raised in Hong Kong.

Citizenship is weird across the world. Some countries will revoke your citizenship if you get citizenship from another country. So trying to tie someones nationality to their citizenship is both silly and somewhat arbitrary.

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Joohny
05/18/21 4:32:18 PM
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Lucy Liu
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kirbyakaZ
05/18/21 4:32:48 PM
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mobilebloechel posted...
George Takei


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Joohny
05/18/21 4:33:47 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Shouldnt a person who has a large impact on American culture be considered American regardless of where they were born or their citizenship?
So people like Tom Cruise who are globally influential should be considered citizens of every country?
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MICHALECOLE
05/18/21 4:34:13 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Mina kimes
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King Rial
05/18/21 4:34:51 PM
#64:


Constance Wu

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mech dragon
05/18/21 4:35:09 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I know that Alex Trebek is from Canada because I watch Jeopardy a lot, but he lived in the US and it turns out he got his American citizenship in 1998. What if he didnt get his American citizenship? What if he retired from Jeopardy in 2004 and moved back to Canada for the rest of his life?
If he didn't get his American citizenship, that would be very telling of the flaws in USA's immigration/citizenship process. If he retired in 2004, and then moved back to Canada for the rest of his life, he'd be Canadian and USA would know him as a Canadian that appeared in American media (just like how USA sees people like Ryan Reynolds these days). You don't have to be American to appear on American media, nor does working in a certain country automatically give you citizenship/nationality of that country.



In Jackie Chans case I understand not calling him American because he doesnt associate with America anymore, but what about in the 90s when I assume he lived in America full-time?
In the 90s he was an Asian actor (specifically a Hong Kong actor) working in Hollywood, and living in America. No one said he was American back then either.

Would it have been helpful for someone to say actually, Jackie Chan isnt Asian-American hes just Asian. And also in Bruce Lees case, he was born in the US but raised in Hong Kong.
Yes it would have been helpful to have people understand that the Asian diaspora goes beyond USA and doesn't always end in citizenship no matter how hard someone works in USA, or how long they've lived here. That's true even today. Some Asian folks live in USA and don't want or can't get citizenship/nationality.

I (think you also) agree that influential Asian celebrities like Henry Golding, who is not American but starred in American's biggest Asian-American movie, is a "prominent Asian". Members of BTS and Black Pink are also super influential amongst youth in America, Canada, Brazil, etc, and they are not American. It would be wrong to label them as such regardless of how much/little time they've spent working/living in USA. Sandra Oh also wasn't always an American when her acting career first started, but she was still (in Canada) a prominent Asian. But this topic wasn't asking about prominent asians. It was asking us to think about Asian-Americans. Nationality was part of what TC wanted us to think about before clicking. Non-Americans should not be considered Americans just because of the impact they've had in USA. Instead, Americans should just learn to appreciate that they are/have been impacted by Asians of all nationalities, and not try to say those Asians were American when they aren't.

Citizenship is weird across the world. Some countries will revoke your citizenship if you get citizenship from another country. So trying to tie someones nationality to their citizenship is both silly and somewhat arbitrary.
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Gheb
05/18/21 4:36:31 PM
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Jamie Chung

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Damn_Underscore
05/18/21 4:37:30 PM
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Ryan Reynolds actually does have American citizenship and is officially Canadian-American/American-Canadian lol

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LordMarshal
05/18/21 4:40:55 PM
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Some of these reports just sound like a ton of percents that you really dont know the test size.

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Garioshi
05/18/21 4:41:27 PM
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mobilebloechel posted...
George Takei


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LRodC
05/18/21 4:57:56 PM
#70:


Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffanys
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g0ldie
05/18/21 5:04:40 PM
#71:


LRodC posted...
Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffanys
that was disgusting

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CommunismFTW
05/18/21 5:05:56 PM
#72:


PokeCris posted...
Lucy Liu.


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HBOSS
05/18/21 5:07:01 PM
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KFChester posted...
Jeremy Lin


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K181
05/18/21 5:08:32 PM
#74:


Gary Locke

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pikachupwnage
05/18/21 5:10:38 PM
#75:


Andrew Yang

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FLOUR
05/18/21 5:29:22 PM
#76:


Cho Seung-Hui

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garan
05/18/21 5:30:31 PM
#77:


nothanks1 posted...
Lucy Alexis Liu
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IShall_Run_Amok
05/18/21 5:33:06 PM
#78:


James Wong Howe.

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YugiNoob
05/18/21 5:35:08 PM
#79:


Lucy Liu

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Damn_Underscore
05/18/21 5:37:06 PM
#80:


Jontron

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FLOUR
05/18/21 5:37:56 PM
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Also Vivek Randadive. He's the clown owner notable for running the Sacramento Kings into the ground. And here I thought the Magoofs were bad.

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bIuerain
05/18/21 5:47:27 PM
#82:


mobilebloechel posted...
George Takei

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GoriIIa
05/18/21 6:01:00 PM
#83:


you guys are beasts

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chrono625
05/18/21 6:22:55 PM
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mobilebloechel posted...
George Takei


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RTruthLILJimmy
05/18/21 6:26:28 PM
#85:


Bishop9800 posted...
Andrew Yang

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evil_cricket
05/18/21 6:36:59 PM
#86:


Eddie Huang

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Fazeo13
05/18/21 6:53:04 PM
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Wlliam hung
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Unknown5uspect
05/18/21 6:56:32 PM
#88:


Sharon Lee

Edit: oh shit she was born in France. Guess I lose.

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MarquessLaus
05/18/21 6:57:09 PM
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Awesker002 posted...
Jamie Chung


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Ivany2008
05/18/21 7:20:50 PM
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pornstar Hitomi Tanaka
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jerrygamer2
05/18/21 7:48:11 PM
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Two-Face
05/18/21 7:58:16 PM
#93:


Ted Lieu.

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EnterTheTekken
05/18/21 7:59:24 PM
#94:


Manny Pacquiao.

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Tenlaar
05/18/21 8:14:40 PM
#95:


Damn_Underscore posted...
In Jackie Chans case I understand not calling him American because he doesnt associate with America anymore
What is that supposed to mean? There are sequels for both Rush Hour and Shanghai Knights in the works.

Anyway, I thought of Mindy Kaling.
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TheMikh
05/18/21 8:15:14 PM
#96:


kina grannis

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Xethuminra
05/18/21 8:15:31 PM
#97:


Jackie Chan & Bruce Lee????

really
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TheMikh
05/18/21 8:17:46 PM
#98:


Xethuminra posted...
Bruce Lee????

really

bruce lee was born in cali

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g0ldie
05/18/21 8:18:35 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco, iirc.

edit: too late

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Xethuminra
05/18/21 8:27:22 PM
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hes not a great example

Obama was from Hawaii tho

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ShyOx
05/18/21 8:28:12 PM
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