Current Events > NYPD banned from participating in NYC Pride events and march through 2025

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Lebronwon
05/16/21 10:42:17 AM
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-banned-participating-nyc-pride-events-march-2025/story?id=77701551

Police will be banned from participating in NYC Pride events, including its signature LGBTQ march, until 2025, the organization announced Saturday. NYC Pride is also working to reduce the New York Police Department's security and first responder presence at its events, the organization said. Andr Thomas, co-chair of Heritage of Pride, which produces NYC Pride, told ABC News it was a difficult decision that's "not going to please everyone." "We know many LGBT cops," Thomas said. "But what the institution represents sometimes to a person of color or trans person is violence, and that doesn't make you feel safe. So that's the perspective we're coming from. And it's a difficult place to be. But we know that's what our community expects of us at this time." Typically, about 200 NYPD members would participate in NYC Pride's march, held in the month of June, organizers said. That includes members of the Gay Officers Action League, or GOAL, a fraternal organization that was formed in 1982 to address the needs of LGBTQ officers. GOAL called Heritage of Pride's decision "shameful," and found its statement, which did not mention GOAL by name, "demoralizing" and "dehumanizing." Heritage of Pride is well aware that the city would not allow a large scale event to occur without police presence. So their response to activist pressure is to take the low road by preventing their fellow community members from celebrating their identities and honoring the shared legacy of the Stonewall Riots," GOAL President Brian Downey said in a statement.

Heritage of Pride said it plans to shift first response and security to trained private security and provide volunteers with de-escalation training. "NYPD will provide first response and security only when absolutely necessary as mandated by city officials," the organization said. It also plans to keep police officers at least one city block from the event perimeter areas "where possible." Additionally, NYC Pride is not mentioning law enforcement in its social media. These steps don't go far enough for some LGBTQ activists. Ray said the New York City Anti-Violence Project was pushing to have law enforcement completely removed from NYC Pride, and was concerned about the use of private security. "Most private security companies hire off-duty officers or former police officers, so we think it's the same mentality," Ray said. "We're pushing more for them to start to shift (traffic enforcement) to working with the Department of Transportation instead of the NYPD."



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ROOTFayth
05/16/21 10:44:47 AM
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oh god what a can of worm they decided to open
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Flauros
05/16/21 10:45:34 AM
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Will they still be required to show up to provide security for the event or block off traffic? Or are the parade people in charge of that

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Antifar
05/16/21 10:47:22 AM
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God bless

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Lebronwon
05/16/21 10:51:28 AM
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Flauros posted...
Will they still be required to show up to provide security for the event or block off traffic? Or are the parade people in charge of that

I edited OP to include answer to this.

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Santa_SweetieQT
05/16/21 10:55:45 AM
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Yikes, how hateful can you get?
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monkmith
05/16/21 10:58:01 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
I edited OP to include answer to this.
lets hope some jackass doesn't take one look at this, see that there's gonna be way less security, and decide he'll mow down a bunch of people for shits and giggles.

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Tenlaar
05/16/21 10:58:46 AM
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That's gotta be a terrible thing for any LGBT NYPD officers trying to be the change they want to see in the world.
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IShall_Run_Amok
05/16/21 11:00:33 AM
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Pigs are the enemy of LGBT people, so this is understandable.

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masticatingman
05/16/21 11:03:13 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Pigs are the enemy of LGBT people, so this is understandable.
I thought the trope of the lesbian woman cop was a definite thing. Even shows up in shows like The Wire.

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g980
05/16/21 11:12:53 AM
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doesnt sound very inclusive

Also, feels like having police more involved in community events should be the goal. Try to bring everyone together.

Shitty move. Im sure the problematic police officers are not the ones marching in an lgbt parade anyways.
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ROOTFayth
05/16/21 11:15:20 AM
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think I'd fire whoever came up with this idea, seems terrible PR wise
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Orchestrion
05/16/21 11:16:10 AM
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Topic already flooded with bad faith arguments from people who I guarantee use homophobic slurs online

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Tenlaar
05/16/21 11:17:31 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
Topic already flooded with bad faith arguments from people who I guarantee use homophobic slurs online
There have been gay police groups in the NYPD for literally going on 40 years now.
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Orchestrion
05/16/21 11:18:44 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
There have been gay police groups in the NYPD for literally going on 40 years now.

whats your point? That has nothing to do with what I posted

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Joohny
05/16/21 11:19:31 AM
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Understandable they don't want to get killed by cops at a parade
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Tenlaar
05/16/21 11:20:31 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
whats your point? That has nothing to do with what I posted
You're saying that the posts saying this isn't good aren't genuine and are, in fact, by homophobes. I'm pointing out that what you're saying is fucking stupid because there have been LGBT action groups within the NYPD working towards bettering things for decades and it's wrong to act like those people are an enemy of the LGBT.
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Orchestrion
05/16/21 11:23:14 AM
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Police always have and always will be enemies of the LGBT community. They have historically resisted social progress for gay people with violence. No amount of forward-facing corporate inclusiveness will change that. If LGBT cops want to improve their community then they can quit their jobs. Its also worth noting that most police dont even live in the communities they police, so your argument makes no sense in this context. Its very clear youre making this argument in bad faith given the shit you post about.

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Tenlaar
05/16/21 11:33:39 AM
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The shit I post about? Here we go, another round of random poster I don't even recognize who is probably an alt making shit up!
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NinjaWarrior455
05/16/21 12:16:06 PM
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Based

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Rapid99
05/16/21 12:18:22 PM
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Hell yeah.

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Iron-Tarkus
05/16/21 12:19:23 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Based


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Shablagoo
05/16/21 12:28:17 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
Typically, about 200 NYPD members would participate in NYC Pride's march, held in the month of June, organizers said. That includes members of the Gay Officers Action League, or GOAL, a fraternal organization that was formed in 1982 to address the needs of LGBTQ officers. GOAL called Heritage of Pride's decision "shameful," and found its statement, which did not mention GOAL by name, "demoralizing" and "dehumanizing." Heritage of Pride is well aware that the city would not allow a large scale event to occur without police presence. So their response to activist pressure is to take the low road by preventing their fellow community members from celebrating their identities and honoring the shared legacy of the Stonewall Riots," GOAL President Brian Downey said in a statement.

I mean, presumably these officers can still attend the march out of uniform. But also...shared legacy of the Stonewall Riots??? The riots were literally a response to a police raid. Police got violent and LGBT people fought back.


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Blue_Inigo
05/16/21 12:38:32 PM
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Good. Fuck the police. The NYPD is especially trash

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iPhone_7
05/16/21 12:41:41 PM
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Orchestrion posted...
If LGBT cops want to improve their community then they can quit their jobs.


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RadiantJoyrock
05/16/21 12:43:27 PM
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How would them quitting help anything?

Best solution in my mind is if LGBT officers want to help they can hire on as security.
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TheOtherMike
05/16/21 12:43:28 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
I mean, presumably these officers can still attend the march out of uniform. But also...shared legacy of the Stonewall Riots??? The riots were literally a response to a police raid. Police got violent and LGBT people fought back.

Yeah, I read that and though "did he really fucking say that?" Cops being tonedeaf as usual.
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IShall_Run_Amok
05/16/21 4:03:54 PM
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lol I got moderated. What a fucking joke.

The police are the enemy of the LGBT community, so its good that they're banned from participating.

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RadiantJoyrock
05/16/21 5:27:58 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
lol I got moderated. What a fucking joke.

The police are the enemy of the LGBT community, so its good that they're banned from participating.
Literally nothing you said was moddable lol
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skermac
05/16/21 5:31:10 PM
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Ifvthere isca shooting will cops ignore it and let them do their own seco?

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Fenrimis
05/16/21 5:31:31 PM
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BREAKING: 3 killed, and 17 injured, by rogue motorist at NYC Pride event

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Blue_Dream87
05/16/21 5:34:54 PM
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Good. Cop wants to be an ally they'll take their uniform off

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/16/21 5:35:36 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Literally nothing you said was moddable lol
I contested it, obviously. "An offensive slur to whom? The police? Who the fuck cares?" I don't expect it to be overturned.

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RadiantJoyrock
05/16/21 5:36:13 PM
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skermac posted...
Ifvthere isca shooting will cops ignore it and let them do their own seco?
Police will respond if needed but aren't invited or there by default.
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Musourenka
05/17/21 11:02:03 AM
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This seems reasonable to me.

If LGBTQ people are threatened by the presence of police, then police should take efforts to not be treatening going forward.

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butthole666
05/17/21 12:31:44 PM
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Fuck the police. Not a cop on this earth is a friend to the LGBTQ community, and their filth has no place at pride.

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Sayoria
05/17/21 12:41:17 PM
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Who's gonna protect the preachers with the megaphones and the "You are all going to Hell you ***s" signs now?

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Njolk
05/17/21 12:44:02 PM
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Well it's true, do you feel safer when you're around a cop?
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