Current Events > City of Columbus to pay $10M settlement because of cop's mistake

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I4NRulez posted...

Their pensions wouldnt cover the settlements. it SHOULD come from the city and taxpayers because the city and populace should hold the police more accountable.

I'm not talking about their individual pension, I'm talking about the fund that pays out their pensions. All of this is funded by taxpayers, they're public employees.

I also am fine with taxpayers generally paying for it if that's how you want to interpret the local government paying it out of general revenue or whatever

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I4NRulez posted...

Their pensions wouldnt cover the settlements. it SHOULD come from the city and taxpayers because the city and populace should hold the police more accountable

That just leads to less accountability. Too many people already don't do anything because they don't care. They'll do even less or stand against punishment if they know they're paying the cost.

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Thats fine, we can all agree to disagree here. But I think theres one thing we can all mutually agree on as we finish this topic..

Why do the payouts have to be so lavish? We should be allowed to give harsh criticism to the judges/lawyers for even suggesting such bafflingly large numbers. $10m will set up the entire family pedigree to never have to work again, ever.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Thats fine, we can all agree to disagree here. But I think theres one thing we can all mutually agree on as we finish this topic..

Why do the payouts have to be so lavish? We should be allowed to give harsh criticism to the judges/lawyers for even suggesting such bafflingly large numbers. $10m will set up the entire family pedigree to never have to work again, ever.

Just stop.

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zinezinzadan posted...

But I think theres one thing we can all mutually agree on as we finish this topic..

Yeah, we all agree that this

zinezinzadan posted...

Why do the payouts have to be so lavish? We should be allowed to give harsh criticism to the judges/lawyers for even suggesting such bafflingly large numbers. $10m will set up the entire family pedigree to never have to work again, ever.

is a dogshit take


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@CanuckCowboy Do you ever have anything of substance to say? Or you just like making meaningless posts because if you do it one more time Im blocking you. I dont have time for ignorance when you offer no solution and no opinion on how to fix anything.

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FlameTurtle posted...

Yeah, we all agree that this

is a dogshit take

Same as poster above. If you make one more reply to me without any actual substance or an opinion on how to counteract/fix, youre blocked.

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What a hilariously impotent threat

Ok, you go and do that, I dont think I would be missing much

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zinezinzadan posted...

@CanuckCowboy Do you ever have anything of substance to say? Or you just like making meaningless posts because if you do it one more time Im blocking you. I dont have time for ignorance when you offer no solution and no opinion on how to fix anything.

You're take is God awful, intellectually stunted, morally disgusting, legally ignorant, and if it's not trolling then holy shit buds.

Do with that as you will.

Also you have the empathy and basic human understanding of a potato.

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shockthemonkey posted...

The irony.

Lol another one... Okay. Argue with me but dont give an opinion on why or how to proceed means you dont have values, instead youre just arguing for a hobby to troll. Dont reply to me unless you have something of substance to counteract my post, otherwise Im blocking you next time. The 3 posters above is like arguing with a child. Just because I said so is my answer to everything.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Imagine criticizing someone who survived a genocidal war, fought his way out of poverty, emigrated to another country and never received money from anyone in his life. Now criticize him because he disagrees with people who take lavish sums of money in court cases when even they know the amount is larger than necessary. They accept it knowing its their neighbors money theyre taking. Thats why people laugh at modern democrats and modern republicans.

Your life circumstances are entirely irrelevant. Your only reason for bringing it up is to try and give yourself clout, but immigrating somewhere doesn't make you an expert on anything except the immigration process.

And the amount is absolutely appropriate. Wrongful deaths destroy families, and when police are literally immune to accountability the families have only one recourse - sue the city. If you don't like people whose family members were murdered by police receiving settlements you can always throw your imaginary clout behind BLM and other activism to pressure the government to change how police operate, but something tells me you'd rather just bitch about the victims' families seeking justice.

zinezinzadan posted...

Why do the payouts have to be so lavish?

This has already been explained multiple times. Just shut the fuck up already.

For fuck's sake, guys

JoeBurrow posted...

He's a Trumper, guys. Ignore him.

JoeBurrow posted...

For fuck's sake, guys

Tbf that's just a much more concise version of what I said a second ago. Lol.

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So this entire topic is about 4-5 supposedly grown men exhibiting man child behavior by just trying to shit on me without providing an alternate solution? I disagree with you, youre ignorant! And thats it. Wow this was so constructive. Imagine belittling someone for 2 hours with absolutely no obvious reasoning of what your goals are and showing an entire forum how you talk for the sake of talking. No goals other than try and get underneath someones skin? But since nothing gets underneath my skin I just look at you all silently and realize this is weird... Trying to bully people is creepy. Its probably one user with multiple alts. This is where I leave this shit is weird.

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get rid of police unions and qualified immunity hold these crappy evil cops accountable for there actions

Lmao did you really unblock me just to call me a man

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shockthemonkey posted...

*pats head*

*ruffles hair in followup*

He blocked me. Lol.

Also that's sort of alarming cause like wtf he actually wasn't just trolling? Dude is something else.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Thats fine, we can all agree to disagree here. But I think theres one thing we can all mutually agree on as we finish this topic..

Why do the payouts have to be so lavish? We should be allowed to give harsh criticism to the judges/lawyers for even suggesting such bafflingly large numbers. $10m will set up the entire family pedigree to never have to work again, ever.

Part of is probably that a human life is valued somewhere in the millions.

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g980 posted...

Agreed on insurance, but pension funds are pooled and itd be fucked to take from other cops' pensions just like it is having taxpayers foot the bill

Then maybe that will force other cops to police their own.

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zinezinzadan posted...

So this entire topic is about 4-5 supposedly grown men exhibiting man child behavior by just trying to shit on me without providing an alternate solution?

Multiple alternate solutions have been offered, but you'd have to have the reading comprehension of at least a ten year old to see them, so it's no wonder you think they haven't.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Then maybe that will force other cops to police their own.

It has already been pointed out that it would have the opposite effect.

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Crazyman93 posted...

It has already been pointed out that it would have the opposite effect.

You dont know that

What_ posted...

You dont know that

If cops are as bad as ce thinks that's what the result will be. But really, you attack any group and they close ranks for protection

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Then maybe that will force other cops to police their own.

I dont think collective punishment is generally considered to be a good idea
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Just imagine if draining pensions for everyone was a thing. Nobody would want to be a cop.

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Crazyman93 posted...

If cops are as bad as ce thinks that's what the result will be. But really, you attack any group and they close ranks for protection

What a stupid take

zinezinzadan posted...

Humans that seek compensation during the loss of a loved one are equally as vile in my opinion. Ive never understood it. I would accept funeral expenses maximum, and MAYBE college education expenses if the victim had kids. But $10m will not bring my family member back. I am grieving during this time, not taking the settlement to try and make a profit of my familys death Jesus Christ. I despise these people. Ive always theorized that individuals who actually accept the ridiculous sums already had a troubling relationship with their family so its more of a Now Im going to profit because of all the years of fighting I endured with said family member.

But no one ever brings this up. We keep blaming the court system. If I was in that position, I would accept the settlement only until it covers 100% of the funeral and maybe 100-200k per child to pay for a 4 year college if the victim had children, everything over can go back to the state to fix roads and build schools. Imagine thinking Nope I get to live in a mansion, drive a sports car, and set up trust funds all due to the loss of my family member. There is something fucked about that in my opinion. No amount of money will bring me joy. There is nothing to compensate my familys absence. I just dealt with my friends losing their sister in a murder and I could see the same in their eyes, they didnt want money nor do they care.

Some humans disgust me.

ok.

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This was like the 3rd or 4th shooting by Columbus police in the last 4 months.

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What_ posted...

What a stupid take

Not really, it's just a pessimistic one. You don't like it so rather than look at it objectively, you call it stupid to avoid thinking about an opposing view.

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Will cops still close ranks if money is taken out of their pension because one guy decided to power trip?

They do it now because they suffer no repercussions. Once they actually have something to lose I doubt they'd keep sticking their necks out for corrupt cops.
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Crazyman93 posted...

Not really, it's just a pessimistic one. You don't like it so rather than look at it objectively, you call it stupid to avoid thinking about an opposing view.

Opposing views require logic theres no logic in that just a bunch of assumptive bullshit

Flauros posted...

Just imagine if draining pensions for everyone was a thing. Nobody would want to be a cop.

Good

What_ posted...

Opposing views require logic theres no logic in that just a bunch of assumptive bullshit

And your post that cops will suddenly start policing their own isn't assumptive?

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