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AP3Brain
04/07/21 2:04:35 PM
#202:


CanuckCowboy posted...
The bottom line is if you wanna ban pits and aren't calling for a ban on rotties, mastiffs, Dobermans, and about a dozen breeds the pit haters probly never even heard of its because of your ignorance and your willingness to believe every negative thing you read about pits. It most surely isn't based on anything resembling logic.

That isn't a logical bottom line considering there isn't an underground demand for those breeds and there isn't a huge amount of backyard breeders for those dogs. Calling other people ignorant or "pit haters" because they disagree with you isn't a sound way of winning arguments.
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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 2:05:07 PM
#203:


viewmaster_pi posted...
i can't believe how hard you guys doubled down on the rooster shit, lol

you know what you're doing, and why. enough being silly

What are you even on about?

Someone brought up roosters and people are discussing them. What are we doing exactly?

I think your just paranoid bro.

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SquirtleSkwad
04/07/21 2:05:43 PM
#204:


AP3Brain posted...
That isn't a logical bottom line considering there isn't an underground demand for those breeds
You're getting close to the point.

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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 2:05:47 PM
#205:


AP3Brain posted...
That isn't a logical bottom line considering there isn't an underground demand for those breeds and there isn't a huge amount of backyard breeders for those dogs. Calling other people ignorant or "pit haters" because they disagree with you isn't a real way of winning arguments.

There literally is though. Especially for bigass mastiffs and breeds like the presa which are notoriously violent.

Also like squirtle alluded to you're admitting that the problem largely resides with the people.

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Perascamin
04/07/21 2:06:10 PM
#206:


I4NRulez posted...
My mom grew up in a house with a lot of land and they had chickens and geese and stuff. As a kid its scary but when you're an adult they are essentially harmless. I get more scratches playing with my dog than i would ever get from a chicken.

Its intimidating because they flap their wings but they arent some ruthless attacker lol. I've just picked up charging chickens before and they dont do anything.
Nah man roosters are the same level threat as a 50LB+ Dog

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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 2:07:15 PM
#207:


Perascamin posted...
Nah man roosters are the same level threat as a 50LB+ Dog

No one said they were. But they can and will fuck shit up all the same.

Also I dunno why he's talking about chickens. Try and grab a charging Malay rooster and see how that goes.

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gamer167
04/07/21 2:10:37 PM
#208:


cuh posted...


I like in East LA. Pit bulls are good guard dogs (older residents here dont typically use home security systems) for an area that has lots of crime. The culture here isnt to adopt a pet to live with you in the house, but to keep outdoors to fend off potential home/car robbers


Those folks have it right, that's what a Pitbull or a Rottweiler should be for. Plus you can still have a dog in that capacity and give them a good life.

Just like you wouldn't use a Golden Retriever for security, if you want a cuddly dog to play with kids and go to the park and be around other animals don't get a Pitbull. It doesn't require banning a breed, just knowledge of what situations different breeds are better suited for.
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SPE
04/07/21 2:11:50 PM
#209:


Can we talk about the fact that the dog in the OP video attacked the horse and his owner was useless and let her unleashed dog try to kill the horse, and then after the fact all bystanders are like poor doggie and poor pwetty lady?

the woman and dog were NOT the victims here. Stop coddling Karen behavior.

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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 2:13:22 PM
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A golden retriever or other types of lab can be great guard dogs imo. The bark is almost as important as anything else and I've known some smallish labs with one helluva big bark.

And if a 50lb lab is aggressively coming at you I think most people will feel plenty threatened.

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I4NRulez
04/07/21 2:14:14 PM
#211:


gamer167 posted...
Those folks have it right, that's what a Pitbull or a Rottweiler should be for. Plus you can still have a dog in that capacity and give them a good life.

Those are the dogs that escape and attack people though. Plus, if you get a dog and teach it that outsiders are bad then they arent functial.

My dad had a german shepherd that he had for that reason. He lost his job and had to downsize his house and had to give away the dog. They took it to a shelter and the dog was so anti social they had no choice but to put it down.

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gamer167
04/07/21 2:17:33 PM
#212:


I4NRulez posted...


Those are the dogs that escape and attack people though. Plus, if you get a dog and teach it that outsiders are bad then they arent functial.

My dad had a german shepherd that he had for that reason. He lost his job and had to downsize his house and had to give away the dog. They took it to a shelter and the dog was so anti social they had no choice but to put it down.


Is what it is unfortunately when you get certain breeds like that.
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AP3Brain
04/07/21 2:22:06 PM
#213:


CanuckCowboy posted...
There literally is though. Especially for bigass mastiffs and breeds like the presa which are notoriously violent.

Also like squirtle alluded to you're admitting that the problem largely resides with the people.

How do you call people ignorant and at the same time say that there is a huge number and demand for mastiffs comparable to pitbulls?

Here is an extremely biased (for pit bull ownership) source showing the statistics: https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

Pitbull breed types account for nearly 20% of the dog population while mastiffs are at 1%

I never said the problem wasn't with people. Who invented this breed of dog and continues to breed it? People. Who does dog legislation really affect? People.

If backyard breeding and dog fighting were controlled somehow I guarantee you there would be a huge drop of pit bulls in America and there would be way less dogs euthanized every year.
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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 2:23:05 PM
#214:


AP3Brain posted...
How do you call people ignorant and at the same time say that there is a huge number and demand for mastiffs comparable to pitbulls?

Here is an extremely biased (for pit bull ownership) source showing the statistics: https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

Pitbull breed types account for nearly 20% of the dog population while mastiffs are at 1%

I never said the problem wasn't with people. Who invented this breed of dog and continues to breed it? People. Who does dog legislation really affect? People.

If backyard breeding and dog fighting were controlled somehow I guarantee you there would be a huge drop of pit bulls in America and there would be way less dogs euthanized every year.

I literally didn't say that.

Try reading my post again. You said there's no underground demand. I said there is. That doesn't mean its as large a demand.

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AP3Brain
04/07/21 2:25:52 PM
#215:


CanuckCowboy posted...
I literally didn't say that.

Try reading my post again. You said there's no underground demand. I said there is. That doesn't mean its as large a demand.

LMAO. Okay bud. Barely any mastiffs out there but I guess a large number of them are being used for underground fights conveniently for your argument.
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I4NRulez
04/07/21 2:25:56 PM
#216:


gamer167 posted...
Is what it is unfortunately when you get certain breeds like that.

Doesnt have to be. Most people are deterred by the bark of the dog. If you can train your dog to bark at people instead of attacking it would probably be just as effective.

Letting your dog sit there and be anti social and scared of everything thats not in its pack isnt beneficial to anyone.

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TomNook20
04/07/21 2:26:12 PM
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Lol that dog was stupid af. But sometimes dogs just aren't good at assessing danger.

I once saw one of those sausage dogs run up to a bison and start barking at it. Fortunately the bison was just like, "is this a fucking joke?"

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QueenCarly
04/07/21 2:44:47 PM
#218:


SquirtleSkwad posted...
Lemme guess. You have a labradoodle?

Wouldn't be caught dead with a dog

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viewmaster_pi
04/07/21 2:46:40 PM
#219:


https://youtu.be/ZUqBglpHTO0

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PoundGarden
04/07/21 2:55:55 PM
#220:


gamer167 posted...
Those folks have it right, that's what a Pitbull or a Rottweiler should be for. Plus you can still have a dog in that capacity and give them a good life.

Just like you wouldn't use a Golden Retriever for security, if you want a cuddly dog to play with kids and go to the park and be around other animals don't get a Pitbull. It doesn't require banning a breed, just knowledge of what situations different breeds are better suited for.

This is wrong on so many levels. My trashy neighbors had 3 pits for just that reason, one got loose and attacked my dog and i, and now im suing them even further into poverty. Baffjngly they have a mortgage on a house that doesn't have a single window intact meaning they have insurance so cha ching, bitches.

That sure worked out well for them, bet they're glad they had those dogs to protect their hut

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Patchwork
04/07/21 3:23:41 PM
#221:


Just plotting my death, clearly.

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kingdrake2
04/07/21 3:24:16 PM
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it's a nice picture. whichever that dog breed is.
bonus points if it's a greyhound or a pitbull.
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gamer167
04/07/21 3:31:25 PM
#223:


PoundGarden posted...


This is wrong on so many levels. My trashy neighbors had 3 pits for just that reason, one got loose and attacked my dog and i, and now im suing them even further into poverty. Baffjngly they have a mortgage on a house that doesn't have a single window intact meaning they have insurance so cha ching, bitches.

That sure worked out well for them, bet they're glad they had those dogs to protect their hut


I should probably clarify that context dictates, and that maybe focusing too much on a "guard dog" is me getting away from my original point which is that the breed of dog you get should be dictated by what purpose you are trying to serve by getting that dog.

Living in a residential neighborhood and chaining a dog outside in a yard it could potentially escape from and teaching it to attack anything that moves is in fact an improper way to raise a dog, I would consider that person too inexperienced and unfit to own that dog or any other type of dog really.

If someone thinks that there are no reasons to have a dog for guard purposes, in any context, that just proves my point that there are even less reasons for the average person to own a Pitbull, Doberman, Rottweiler, etc. Whoever owns that Pitbull in the video got one for the wrong reasons.
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Patchwork
04/07/21 3:37:22 PM
#224:


kingdrake2 posted...
it's a nice picture. whichever that dog breed is.
bonus points if it's a greyhound or a pitbull.

Hes a pitbull.

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_MorningStar
04/07/21 3:38:18 PM
#225:


How does CE fall for this every time?

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The_Korey
04/07/21 3:50:00 PM
#226:


_MorningStar posted...
How does CE fall for this every time?

Heated or not, there is still actual discussion going on and no one is actually trying to engage TC himself. One of the most benign of troll "victories", if you kan even kall it that.

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Kesaru
04/07/21 3:55:45 PM
#227:


pit bulls are objectively terrible pets
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AtelierRyza3462
04/07/21 4:54:08 PM
#228:


Horse got in a good kick

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TendoDRM
04/07/21 4:56:42 PM
#229:


Kesaru posted...
pit bulls are objectively terrible pets
You objectively don't know what objectively means.

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Zeus
04/07/21 5:22:46 PM
#230:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Any edgy anti-pit bull shit should be banned. Just train your dog right, dont blame the breed just because youre lazy and dont like thinking

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I'm guessing you've been banned a few times.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/07/21 7:59:03 PM
#231:


Zeus posted...
I'm guessing you've been banned a few times.
Wrong. Im guessing you get a lot of shit talk directed at yourself due to your tendency to derail topics and dodge.
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CanuckCowboy
04/07/21 8:06:00 PM
#232:


AP3Brain posted...
LMAO. Okay bud. Barely any mastiffs out there but I guess a large number of them are being used for underground fights conveniently for your argument.

No.... you are literally making shit up and then responding to the shit youre pretending i said.

Are you ok?

It does happen and mastiffs are not that uncommon. They're actually rrasonably common as pets and from reputable breeders too. They're not labs or any of the really popular breeds, but they're certainly not exceptionally rare. Less people own my kind of cat than own mastiffs.

And I mean like literally a fraction as many.

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tonicpalin
04/07/21 9:32:59 PM
#233:


Man. Pit bulls don't kill people. People do!
Obama ain't taking my non-auto pitbulls!!! Even if Obama isn't even prez anymore and i'm not even united statian!!!

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AP3Brain
04/07/21 11:30:55 PM
#234:


CanuckCowboy posted...
No.... you are literally making shit up and then responding to the shit youre pretending i said.

Are you ok?

It does happen and mastiffs are not that uncommon. They're actually rrasonably common as pets and from reputable breeders too. They're not labs or any of the really popular breeds, but they're certainly not exceptionally rare. Less people own my kind of cat than own mastiffs.

And I mean like literally a fraction as many.
You made a stupid comparison of mastiffs being used for fighting as if the numbers are comparable at all. Here I'll quote it for you since you are gaslighting me now.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Sure some are. So are some mastiffs, shepherds, presa canarios, bully kuttas, and many other breeds. Most of which are considerably larger than pits and have up to twice the bite force of a pit.

What exactly is the point of your comparison here if you aren't talking about numbers? No fucking duh you can potentially use any animal in these fight clubs.
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SPE
04/08/21 12:08:02 AM
#235:


Imagine being a pitbull, the best fighting dog in earth and getting your ass kicked by a horse who is restrained by a chariot.

wolves would be embarrassed to be associated with such creatures

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CanuckCowboy
04/08/21 12:10:17 AM
#236:


AP3Brain posted...
You made a stupid comparison of mastiffs being used for fighting as if the numbers are comparable at all. Here I'll quote it for you since you are gaslighting me now.

CanuckCowboy posted...

What exactly is the point of your comparison here if you aren't talking about numbers? No fucking duh you can potentially use any animal in these fight clubs.

You said...

Nevermind. Ask a friend to explain the sequence of posts here. I tried.

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ColdRainAndSnow
04/08/21 12:33:04 AM
#237:


Pit bull is lucky to be alive. I have zero respect for dog owners and absolutely loath pit bull owners, this is just exhbit 102392491367 though

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ColdRainAndSnow
04/08/21 12:38:44 AM
#238:


Sad to see so many people come to defend pitbulls. If it was your child in that chariot crying you would NOT be defending no pitbull OR owner. Pathetic.

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Tyranthraxus
04/08/21 1:12:25 AM
#240:


Evolician posted...
How come you never see videos of golden retrievers violently attempting to murder things



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Tyranthraxus
04/08/21 1:15:13 AM
#241:


SPE posted...
Imagine being a pitbull, the best fighting dog in earth and getting your ass kicked by a horse who is restrained by a chariot.

wolves would be embarrassed to be associated with such creatures

The furry feet of the horse makes me think it's a clydesdale in which case the dog is lucky it didn't immediately get their skull caved in.

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04/08/21 1:58:43 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle
04/08/21 2:36:43 AM
#243:


ColdRainAndSnow posted...
Pit bull is lucky to be alive.


According to the YouTube comments the dog was euthanized for its injuries.


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kingdrake2
04/08/21 2:38:58 AM
#244:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
the dog was euthanized for its injuries.


it's dead.... i guess it's an option if it's beyond saving and don't want it to suffer.
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Solid Snake07
04/08/21 2:48:08 AM
#246:


That dog is fully tok'd

Did it survive that kick?

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DarkMark942
04/08/21 2:51:41 AM
#247:


I've never liked larger dogs in general. And pitbulls are obviously more aggressive than most dogs you can't train that out of them.
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Kinny100
04/08/21 4:39:41 AM
#248:


forgot about this topic.

wow cant believe so many of you still love pits

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PoundGarden
04/08/21 4:47:22 AM
#249:


Pitbulls are too dangerous and too many people are fuckwits about owning them. Idgaf how many are "good bois" those fucking things are insane when they are in kill mode. This dipshit tried, merrily at that, to kill a fucking Clydesdale, got its head caved in and still wanted more.

Look at it this way: I love guns and support the second ammendment. That said, I don't think the general public should have access to a fucking rail gun. Why? See: pitbulls.

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Solid Snake07
04/08/21 6:26:05 AM
#250:


I love how whenever this is brought up no one mentions that most of these attacks are by mutts who somewhat have a bull terrier look to them so they're all just lumped together as "pit bulls" by people who don't know what they're talking about

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ShineboxPhil
04/08/21 6:38:06 AM
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