Poll of the Day > What's up with game character creators eliminating gender?

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NeoSioType
03/30/21 1:04:18 PM
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Are you a type 1 or type 2 btw?
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ReturnOfFa
03/30/21 1:07:50 PM
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What?

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adjl
03/30/21 1:08:08 PM
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Examples?

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Lokarin
03/30/21 1:08:08 PM
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Because gender isn't bound to sex and in most games you can't see the chromys or the genets or the gameteys

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NeoSioType
03/30/21 1:25:42 PM
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I was just watching a Monster Hunter Rise stream and they specifically used that phrase instead of just showing pictures or something.

The JP beta preview of PSO2NGS also used that and I made a connection.

Cyberpunk 2077 has that too (referred to as body type) but I can accept that one.

Oh, I forgot the Demon Souls remake. They list it as Type A and Type B.
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Cruddy_horse
03/30/21 1:28:08 PM
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Because trans people are a thing.
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Mead
03/30/21 1:29:12 PM
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VioletMassacre posted...
In the latest Animal Crossing you can choose male or female, but youre still referred to as they.

so?

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ArvTheGreat
03/30/21 1:51:06 PM
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People cant figure out who they are but they have no problems telling everyone else what they can or cannot do

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Black_Crusher
03/30/21 2:06:44 PM
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VioletMassacre posted...
In the latest Animal Crossing you can choose male or female, but youre still referred to as they.
This could also be because it saves them a shit ton of rewrites where the animals say "He, hers, him" and etc.

Sure they could've just used variables for this too sooooo maybe not.

Ultimate ADoM is taking some heat in certain circles for including too many genders:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1266820/discussions/0/3111395113756617292/

and

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1266820/discussions/0/3111395113748539063/

aaaaaaand

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1266820/discussions/0/2967272318168994559/


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Lokarin
03/30/21 2:09:47 PM
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Black_Crusher posted...
Ultimate ADoM is taking some heat in certain circles for including too many genders.

The TERFs, right?

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Black_Crusher
03/30/21 2:12:46 PM
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Lokarin posted...
The TERFs, right?
I just updated my post with some thread examples. I think there were more that were also deleted.

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Johnny Eagle
03/30/21 2:39:17 PM
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Pokemon hasn't had you select boy/girl since Gen 6...

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Unbridled9
03/30/21 2:43:33 PM
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Johnny Eagle posted...
Pokemon hasn't had you select boy/girl since Gen 6...

Didn't they replace it with you choosing a base model and customizing your clothes/appearance though? I.E. you still pick boy/girl but they removed it because you were doing much more with the base model.

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Johnny Eagle
03/30/21 2:45:45 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Didn't they replace it with you choosing a base model and customizing your clothes/appearance though? I.E. you still pick boy/girl but they removed it because you were doing much more with the base model.

You could customize your character's appearance in Gen 6 as well, but otherwise, yeah they did. They just don't ask if you're a boy or girl anymore

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Unbridled9
03/30/21 3:11:23 PM
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Johnny Eagle posted...
You could customize your character's appearance in Gen 6 as well, but otherwise, yeah they did. They just don't ask if you're a boy or girl anymore

Considering it's from Japan I wouldn't count it as some attempt to be PC or the like and, instead, them just offering more baseline options making the choice leading to a single binary choice meaningless.

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Lokarin
03/30/21 3:57:56 PM
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Black_Crusher posted...
I just updated my post with some thread examples. I think there were more that were also deleted.

Wow, i was right! It was the TERFs!

Tentacle Exclusionary Radical Feminists

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Zeus
03/30/21 4:06:53 PM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
Because trans people are a thing.

Transgenders have a gender, though. Hence the "gender" in "transgender"

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Lokarin
03/30/21 4:10:55 PM
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Zeus posted...
Transgenders have a gender, though. Hence the "gender" in "transgender"

If there are transcendentals can there can there be ciscendentals?

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LinkPizza
03/30/21 4:11:32 PM
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I think splatoon just lets you pick hair style and stuff when making the character...
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Unbridled9
03/31/21 5:47:55 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I think splatoon just lets you pick hair style and stuff when making the character...

Lots of games just offer bare-bones customization when making a character. Part of why I don't think that they're 'eliminating gender' so much as it's just someone noticing that some games did and deciding that that means all games are.

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BlazeAndBlade
03/31/21 5:52:05 AM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
Because trans people are a thing.


wait till people want to become trans-human and that becomes a thing

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zebatov
03/31/21 5:58:05 AM
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Lokarin posted...
Because gender isn't bound to sex and in most games you can't see the chromys or the genets or the gameteys

Its actually synonymous by definition.

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1953" data-user-id="7013390">Cruddy_horse posted...

Because trans people are a thing.

I guess the vast majority arent anymore.

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LinkPizza
03/31/21 6:50:02 AM
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zebatov posted...
Its actually synonymous by definition.

In old terms.. While for most people, they match, they don't for everyone. Sex is for the biological attributes, where gender is socially constructed, according to how Google put it...
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What_The_Chris
03/31/21 7:52:20 AM
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that's why I like the super weeb games like NieR and Code Vein because you can lewd up your waifu as far as it goes while still being SFW

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NeoSioType
04/06/21 3:23:33 PM
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Is Code Vein good? I heard the DLC was disappointing. It's on sale on humblebundle though.
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Decoy77
04/06/21 3:31:51 PM
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Because the anti-science leftist and "woke" folks get their panties in a bunch when you use the only 2 genders that there are as choices of male or female to choose from. So instead of getting the very very very vocal but tiny minuscule population to go after them they use type 1 or type 2 instead. Sad really how we've abandoned science for "feelings".

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Lokarin
04/06/21 3:37:22 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Because the anti-science leftist and "woke" folks get their panties in a bunch when you use the only 2 genders that there are as choices of male or female to choose from. So instead of getting the very very very vocal but tiny minuscule population to go after them they use type 1 or type 2 instead. Sad really how we've abandoned science for "feelings".

There are 2 primary sexes, 3 uncommon sexes and around 15 ativisms; Gender, however, is a bimodal spectrum (and like all spectrums, the bands and quantities are largely irrelevant)

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PunishedOni
04/06/21 3:43:28 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Because the anti-science leftist and "woke" folks get their panties in a bunch when you use the only 2 genders that there are as choices of male or female to choose from. So instead of getting the very very very vocal but tiny minuscule population to go after them they use type 1 or type 2 instead. Sad really how we've abandoned science for "feelings".
science has nothing to do with gender

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Decoy77
04/06/21 3:44:32 PM
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Lokarin posted...
There are 2 primary sexes, 3 uncommon sexes and around 15 ativisms; Gender, however, is a bimodal spectrum (and like all spectrums, the bands and quantities are largely irrelevant)

Oh sorry there is a 3rd sex/gender(same thing), hermaphrodite. Male, Female, and hermaphrodite. That's it. No more. Sorry for leaving out the very few # that land in the 3rd type.

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Kanatteru
04/06/21 3:48:59 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Oh sorry there is a 3rd sex/gender(same thing), hermaphrodite. Male, Female, and hermaphrodite. That's it. No more. Sorry for leaving out the very few # that land in the 3rd type.

well, that's just not true

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The_tall_midget
04/06/21 10:20:03 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
People cant figure out who they are but they have no problems telling everyone else what they can or cannot do

This. It's one of the many, many reasons I can't take those people, and the idiots who are offended along with them, seriously.

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 10:26:12 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
This. It's one of the many, many reasons I can't take those people, and the idiots who are offended along with them, seriously.
lmao I experience way more of this flavour of whining than I do of 'the woke' telling me what I can and can't do.

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 10:27:08 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Because the anti-science leftist and "woke" folks get their panties in a bunch when you use the only 2 genders that there are as choices of male or female to choose from. So instead of getting the very very very vocal but tiny minuscule population to go after them they use type 1 or type 2 instead. Sad really how we've abandoned science for "feelings".
Time to open up the 'ole medical journal and do some reading. Right, leftists have abandoned science *observes the weather*

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 10:27:52 PM
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Science isn't political until fundamentalists, theists and religious-right ass-kissers get involved.

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The_tall_midget
04/06/21 10:39:16 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Science isn't political until fundamentalists, theists and religious-right ass-kissers get involved.

Or groups of whiny, useless idiots and perpetually offended minorities decided that actual biology needed to be put in question because crazies were offended by things that have been known as factual for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Which is why "regressive" is far more appropriate than "progressive" for such ideologies.

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 11:06:06 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...


Or groups of whiny, useless idiots and perpetually offended minorities decided that actual biology needed to be put in question because crazies were offended by things that have been known as factual for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Which is why "regressive" is far more appropriate than "progressive" for such ideologies.
Nah, bust open a medical journal and you'll find that science sorted out the trans 'issue' before the general population (including lefties) even gave the amount of shit equivalent to what's inside of an ant's ass.

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 11:07:18 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...


Or groups of whiny, useless idiots and perpetually offended minorities decided that actual biology needed to be put in question because crazies were offended by things that have been known as factual for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Which is why "regressive" is far more appropriate than "progressive" for such ideologies.
Biology hasn't been 'put in question', unless you're believing the most dramatic news-peddlers of today. Is someone denying the biology of your penis? The answer is no.

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JigsawTDC
04/06/21 11:14:59 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Oh sorry there is a 3rd sex/gender(same thing), hermaphrodite. Male, Female, and hermaphrodite. That's it. No more. Sorry for leaving out the very few # that land in the 3rd type.

Well. It seems like the anti-science one here is actually you.
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adjl
04/06/21 11:23:54 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Oh sorry there is a 3rd sex/gender(same thing), hermaphrodite. Male, Female, and hermaphrodite. That's it. No more.

Male, female, male pseudohermaphrodite (male gonads, female/ambiguous other stuff), female pseudohermaphrodite (female gonads, male/ambiguous other stuff), and true hermaphrodite (both gonads) are the five sexes to which Lok was referring. Beyond those broad classifications, it's widely recognized that humans display sexual dimorphism in many different ways, including primary sexual characteristics, secondary sexual characteristics, hormones, genetics, neuroanatomy, and others, all of which are able to vary somewhat independently of each other to create additional intermediate states between male and female. That's without considering the psychological dimorphism, which can be tied to any of those biological aspects (particularly neuroanatomy), but is also dependent on one's experiences.

I take it you haven't actually taken any sort of science classes past the high school level?

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ReturnOfFa
04/06/21 11:39:15 PM
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Careful, 'sexual dimorphism' might scare some people!

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CarefreeDude
04/06/21 11:48:33 PM
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I look forward to when games give you crazy genitalia customization, like give you the option of both a penis and a vagina

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Qwert408
04/07/21 12:17:41 AM
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"What's up with game character creators eliminating gender?"

Liberals.

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Fierce_Deity_08
04/07/21 12:40:20 AM
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Zeus posted...
Transgenders have a gender, though. Hence the "gender" in "transgender"
They go from one gender to another, Hence the trans in transgender.

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What_The_Chris
04/09/21 12:33:15 PM
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NeoSioType posted...
Is Code Vein good? I heard the DLC was disappointing. It's on sale on humblebundle though.
I liked it, it has a perma co-op mode which makes it kind of easy but solo is ball busting

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CarefreeDude
04/09/21 1:50:16 PM
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One thing Ioved In fable 2 is that there was a glitch that allowed you to freely change genders. I did so frequently had had straight spouses of male and female

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FatBecky
04/10/21 12:49:38 PM
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games should just straight up ask do you have a penis or a vagina?
Not offensive at all.

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ReturnOfFa
04/10/21 12:53:16 PM
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FatBecky posted...
games should just straight up ask do you have a penis or a vagina?
Not offensive at all.
fairly progressive tbh

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