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creativerealms
03/17/21 5:30:30 PM
#52:


Phantom36 posted...
I'm getting tired of all this woke shit.

By all means diversity of film characters is welcome and I love that, but deliberately forcing it such as this case is becoming annoying as fuck.
I'm not sick of something that does not exist.

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Kaldrenthebold
03/17/21 5:30:38 PM
#53:


FortuneCookie posted...
This isn't Wizard of Oz. This is Mortal Kombat.

In the original, Johnny Cage worked just fine asking "What the hell's going on?" from a supporting role. The lead should know what Mortal Kombat is.

Yeah I ain't saying I like the decision. It's just a lazy way to introduce everyone to the universe.

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RustyFerret
03/17/21 5:32:23 PM
#54:


Caroniver posted...
If they don't want Johnny Cage to be the hero, they could just... not make him the hero? He can still be in the movie.
If they want a non-white hero, they could pick ANY character from the games and have them be the hero. No need to invent their own.
Yeah it's a really dumb reason to remove him from the movie.

Even in the original movie adaption, Lui Kang was the main character and Johnny Cage was there as supporting comic relief.

Also, it isn't like Lui Kang knew everything. Raiden had to explain it to him.
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CyricZ
03/17/21 5:36:17 PM
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You can totally tell who hasn't read the article.

Because nowhere in it do they say that Johnny Cage isn't in the movie. They just didn't confirm whether he was.

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PokemonYoutube
03/17/21 5:46:02 PM
#56:


CyricZ posted...
You can totally tell who hasn't read the article.

Because nowhere in it do they say that Johnny Cage isn't in the movie. They just didn't confirm whether he was.
There are confirmed castings for nobodies like Kabal and Nitara. If Johnny Cage was in the movie, they would've announced it.
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CyricZ
03/17/21 5:48:42 PM
#57:


PokemonYoutube posted...
If Johnny Cage was in the movie, they would've announced it.
Bold statement, if unprovable.

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/21 5:48:55 PM
#58:


PokemonYoutube posted...
There are confirmed castings for nobodies like Kabal and Nitara. If Johnny Cage was in the movie, they would've announced it.

Not if there's a spoiler reason for it like if Johnny Cage is actually Cole's stage name he adopts at the end.

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Questionmarktarius
03/17/21 5:50:24 PM
#59:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Not if there's a spoiler reason for it like if Johnny Cage is actually Cole's stage name he adopts at the end.
Yeah... probably.

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PokemonYoutube
03/17/21 5:50:48 PM
#60:


sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
The OC is either Johnny Cage [non-stage name] or Kuai Liang
It would be the stupidest move ever, having the OC be Kuai Liang. In the article, they specifically stated that they made the OC because they didn't want to rewrite the backstories of any beloved characters. Going "oh, the OC was Sub-Zero all along" would just be the worst.
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Tyranthraxus
03/17/21 5:52:59 PM
#61:


PokemonYoutube posted...
It would be the stupidest move ever, having the OC be Kuai Liang. In the article, they specifically stated that they made the OC because they didn't want to rewrite the backstories of any beloved characters. Going "oh, the OC was Sub-Zero all along" would just be the worst.

Would be kinda cool if Cole was the Sub Zero Younger brother.

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Questionmarktarius
03/17/21 5:55:11 PM
#62:


"Cole was actually Kintaro all along" could be stupid enough to work.
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CyricZ
03/17/21 5:55:33 PM
#63:


PokemonYoutube posted...
It would be the stupidest move ever, having the OC be Kuai Liang. In the article, they specifically stated that they made the OC because they didn't want to rewrite the backstories of any beloved characters. Going "oh, the OC was Sub-Zero all along" would just be the worst.
What's Kuai Liang's backstory?

Questionmarktarius posted...
"Cole was actually Kintaro all along" could be stupid enough to work.
Now that I'd pay to see.

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/21 5:55:47 PM
#64:


Cole's last name should be Slaw
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CyricZ
03/17/21 5:56:29 PM
#65:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Cole's last name should be Slaw
And what is Cole Slaw a common culinary partner to?

https://mortalkombat.fandom.com/wiki/Meat

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PokemonYoutube
03/17/21 5:56:41 PM
#66:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Not if there's a spoiler reason for it like if Johnny Cage is actually Cole's stage name he adopts at the end.
Turning the one white guy on the roster into another Asian dude doesn't seem like a great idea either.

But then again, they already made Mileena black, so they are probably just saying "fuck it" at this point.
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AlisLandale
03/17/21 5:59:19 PM
#67:


Itd be kinda silly to make Johnny the main hero since his story was always the most detached from the lore.

Shoulda just made Liu or Jax the MC if they wanted diversity. Im tired of this Hollywood isekai bullshit with viewer surrogates. >_>

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Kitt
03/17/21 5:59:45 PM
#68:


CyricZ posted...
What's Kuai Liang's backstory?
The OC being the second Sub-Zero would honestly be a really dope twist considering his backstory.

If that's the case, then them changing his name and pretending his an OC would be worth it.

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/21 5:59:46 PM
#69:


CyricZ posted...

And what is Cole Slaw a common culinary partner to?

https://mortalkombat.fandom.com/wiki/Meat

I played MK4 a fuckton and I've never heard of this joke character >_>
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CyricZ
03/17/21 6:00:30 PM
#70:


DeadBankerDream posted...
I played MK4 a fuckton and I've never heard of this joke character >_>
Learn the lore dude.

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jimbiz
03/17/21 6:00:47 PM
#71:


CyricZ posted...
And what is Cole Slaw a common culinary partner to?

https://mortalkombat.fandom.com/wiki/Meat
mind = blown

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/21 6:01:09 PM
#72:


On the one hand I don't want to, but on the other hand I really don't care.
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MagnusX
03/17/21 6:01:18 PM
#73:


The white fragility in this thread about fictional characters sure is something.
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DespondentDeity
03/17/21 6:03:53 PM
#75:


fuming posted...
Johnny Cage is very clearly a comic relief secondary hero

it wasnt that funny when he punch that dude in the dick and killed his ass

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/17/21 6:08:05 PM
#77:


PokemonYoutube posted...
Turning the one white guy on the roster into another Asian dude doesn't seem like a great idea either.
Even worse, it would also be turning him from blatantly American to British.

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CyricZ
03/17/21 6:08:45 PM
#78:


EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Even worse, it would also be turning him from blatantly American to British.
lol what, please tell me that was a joke.

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34_ShaqRule_34
03/17/21 6:26:42 PM
#80:


Warner Bros is such a garbage company
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Machete
03/17/21 6:27:18 PM
#81:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Cole's last name should be Slaw

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Machete
03/17/21 6:28:35 PM
#82:


DespondentDeity posted...


it wasnt that funny when he punch that dude in the dick and killed his ass


What do you mean? Dick punching is funny.
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Ilishe
03/17/21 6:35:00 PM
#83:


Fuck all of them

#SubZeroismyHero

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LordMarshal
03/17/21 6:36:44 PM
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Lol they made an original character? I understand: hes working with such a tiny roster.

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Prestoff
03/17/21 7:18:06 PM
#85:


If the OC is Kuai Liang, that would actually be pretty badass. According to the synopsis, Sub Zero and the Lin Kuei clan are after him and Scorpion showed up as a "jump scare" in the trailer when the MC was looking at the mirror. So yeah there's clearly a connection with the MC to the ninja clans, which I'm obviously down for.

With that said, I honestly think this producer has no idea how MK works because Johnny Cage in MK9 was basically the "what the fuck is going on?" character while Liu Kang was the Main Character. I really want to see the directors answer for this particular question.

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/21 7:25:35 PM
#86:


Prestoff posted...
If the OC is Kuai Liang, that would actually be pretty badass. According to the synopsis, Sub Zero and the Lin Kuei clan are after him and Scorpion showed up as a "jump scare" in the trailer when the MC was looking at the mirror. So yeah there's clearly a connection with the MC to the ninja clans, which I'm obviously down for.

With that said, I honestly think this producer has no idea how MK works because Johnny Cage in MK9 was basically the "what the fuck is going on?" character while Liu Kang was the Main Character. I really want to see the directors answer for this particular question.

He outright acknowledges Liu Kang is usually the main protagonist just that they had a "specific story" to tell and presumably everyone had a role to play except Johnny Cage but they couldn't use Johnny Cage because his pre-existing biography was incompatible with the story they wanted to tell.

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fuming
03/17/21 7:26:37 PM
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According to earlier scripts the main character was scorpions son or something, at least I remember reading that
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Murphiroth
03/17/21 7:28:03 PM
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I'm on board with the Cole Young = Kuai Liang theory. Although if that is the case I don't think he'll be Bi Han's younger brother and will instead be a descendant of the clan placed into hiding from Scorpion.

The scene in the trailer with human Scorpion wrecking dudes is confirmed to open the movie and seems to take place centuries ago so I'm guessing the Scorpion/Sub rivalry has been ongoing all that time and Scorpion has been hunting descendants of the clan to try to draw Bi Han out.

Bi Han being that old is a wrinkle but hey ice powers stopped his aging or something.
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Delta_Force
03/17/21 7:33:30 PM
#89:


How would y'all feel if they kill off 90%+ of the cast and then bring 80% of them back for the sequel. No explanation or anything, they're just back.

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FortuneCookie
03/17/21 9:20:00 PM
#91:


34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
Warner Bros is such a garbage company

I've been very disappointed with them as of late.
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Zeus
03/17/21 9:24:39 PM
#92:


PokemonYoutube posted...
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/mortal-kombat-2021-preview-todd-garner-on-cole-young-johnny-cage

So they left fan-favorite MK character Johnny Cage out of the movie because he's white. Instead, the hero of the movie is some OC (do not steal) of Chinese descent, even though Johnny Cage has NEVER been the hero that saves everyone. That has always been Liu Kang, an Asian. So creating some Chinese OC to be the main hero is completely unnecessary.

tbh, when they announced the OC my first reaction was "Why?" They wanted an Asian lead when they literally have several Asian leads already.

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jumi
03/17/21 9:25:59 PM
#93:


sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
The OC is either Johnny Cage [non-stage name] or Kuai Liang

Cage's real name is John Carlton.

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SPE
03/17/21 10:07:15 PM
#94:


jumi posted...
Cage's real name is John Carlton.

he was a parody of Jean Claude vandamme

jean Claude = John Carlton

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FortuneCookie
03/17/21 10:20:47 PM
#95:


Speaking of Van Damme, he was going to play Johnny Cage in the 1995 movie but opted instead to star in Street Fighter where he had the lead role.

If the studio had wanted Van Damme in the role, it actually would have been very easy to have re-written Johnny Cage as the star. Liu Kang joins the Mortal Kombat tournament not to avenge a loved one, but out of obligation after Rayden told him to. Instead of Liu Kang fighting Shang Tsung, Johnny Cage fights Shang Tsung.

I'm glad that Liu Kang was the star, but I still find it interesting that they would have only needed to have changed a couple of scenes to have completely changed who the protagonist was. They have a near equal amount of screen time and dialogue.
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yusiko
03/17/21 10:38:42 PM
#96:


one of you 3 will decide the outcome of this tournament
except you sonya you will get 1 fight and then get kidnapped and will totally lose if you fight
but dont worry in the sequel you will say you are the one who is going to take out shao kahn but then your final battle will be against a nameless scorpion look alike who you will need to be rescued from

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FortuneCookie
03/17/21 10:43:42 PM
#97:


yusiko posted...
one of you 3 will decide the outcome of this tournament
except you sonya you will get 1 fight and then get kidnapped and will totally lose if you fight
but dont worry in the sequel you will say you are the one who is going to take out shao kahn but then your final battle will be against a nameless scorpion look alike who you will need to be rescued from

I think the nameless Scorpion lookalike was Noob Saibot.
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AlisLandale
03/17/21 10:46:10 PM
#98:


FortuneCookie posted...
Speaking of Van Damme, he was going to play Johnny Cage in the 1995 movie but opted instead to star in Street Fighter where he had the lead role.

If the studio had wanted Van Damme in the role, it actually would have been very easy to have re-written Johnny Cage as the star. Liu Kang joins the Mortal Kombat tournament not to avenge a loved one, but out of obligation after Rayden told him to. Instead of Liu Kang fighting Shang Tsung, Johnny Cage fights Shang Tsung.

I'm glad that Liu Kang was the star, but I still find it interesting that they would have only needed to have changed a couple of scenes to have completely changed who the protagonist was. They have a near equal amount of screen time and dialogue.


Van Damme was supposed to be in the original Mortal Kombat game but it didnt pan out for some reason so they made up Johnny Cage >_>

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SauI_Goodman
03/17/21 10:47:35 PM
#99:


damn remember kitana. i forget the actress' name but damn. and bridgette wilson before her teeth got all messed up and let pete sampras mount her.

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dave_is_slick
03/17/21 10:50:32 PM
#100:


Delta_Force posted...
How would y'all feel if they kill off 90%+ of the cast and then bring 80% of them back for the sequel. No explanation or anything, they're just back.
"Truly a Mortal Kombat movie!"

Also, they legit did this. MK9 to MKX

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Shotgunnova
03/17/21 10:51:42 PM
#101:


SauI_Goodman posted...
damn remember kitana. i forget the actress' name but damn
Talisa Soto 4 Lyfe

She was smoking in License to Kill, too.

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