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Full Throttle
03/03/21 10:49:46 PM
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Is one of the reasons you vote conservative because you believe liberals give free money and handouts to undeserving lazy people?


67 y/o Tim Allen, one of hollywood's biggest Conservatives has revealed he got a real kick out of Donald Trump's presidency cause he riled up critics and loved how he pissed LIBERALS OFF and saved MILLIONS of his money from Trump's tax scheme!!

The comedian appeared on WTF with Marc Maron to speak about what it's like to be a conservative in Hollywood and his past struggles with drugs

He famously went to the inauguration of Donald Trump and provoked outrage when he said being a conservative in Hollywood is like living in Nazi Germany

When asked how he minimized the backlash he said "I don't preach anything. What i've done is just not join into, as i call it, the 'we culture'. I'm not telling anybody else how to live. I don't like that. We should do this. We should do that. Once i realized that the last president pissed people off, i kind of like that. So it was fun to just not say anything. Didn't join in the lynching crowd"

He also spoked about his past where he was an 'eff up' and drank at 10 and was arrested for selling 1.4lbs of cocaine at 23 years old to an undercover officer in michigan in 1978

He said he was friendly with the Clintons but was strictly opposed to Hillary. He said Bill was a genuinly nice gy to him and he sent them christmas stuff from disney but just didn't think Hillary should be president who said if you don't like the current president then you wait until the next election to boot them out

Allen also discussed his disdain for paying taxes and why he doesn't support Democrats as he's always been a fiscal conservative with money who said once he started making money, the government took half of his money that he earned and gave it to lazy people who did nothing to earn it and accept handouts without ever lifting a finger.

He said he's never liked taxes and he works pretty hard for his stuff

The Home Improvement Star had great successes in film and tv as he is set to end his 9 year run on Last Man Standing which has been a staple for conservative audiences

Do you ever vote conservative because you think liberals give your money away to undeserving lazy people?

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Raddest_Chad
03/03/21 10:53:35 PM
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  1. Last Man Standing is the "facebook boomer" of TV shows.
  2. There wouldn't need to be "handouts" if things weren't so fucked up. Universal healthcare and wages keeping up with inflation, not shipping jobs to China to line corporate pockets, etc. would have made that unnecessary.
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MICHALECOLE
03/03/21 10:57:55 PM
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He was arrested in Kalamazoo Michigan, I used to live there!

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Njord
03/03/21 11:06:58 PM
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With a title like that, I was thinking it was more than a single stint in 1978, in which he was arrested for possession of over 650 grams (1.43 lb) of cocaine. Title is a bit misleading, no?
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Lokarin
03/03/21 11:21:40 PM
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> Allen also discussed his disdain for paying taxes and why he doesn't support Democrats as he's always been a fiscal conservative with money who said once he started making money, the government took half of his money that he earned and gave it to lazy people who did nothing to earn it and accept handouts without ever lifting a finger.

Ya, lower taxes so you can buy more drugs :v

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Zareth
03/03/21 11:32:08 PM
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The great con is that conservatives give your money away to lazy people too. They just don't give billionaires' money away.

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Zeus
03/04/21 2:15:22 AM
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...apparently Tim Allen's claim to fame wasn't his numerous acting roles both on television and film, but instead the fact he once sold drugs in his early 20s. Seriously, wtf, Ducky?

Full Throttle posted...
Allen also discussed his disdain for paying taxes and why he doesn't support Democrats as he's always been a fiscal conservative with money who said once he started making money, the government took half of his money that he earned and gave it to lazy people who did nothing to earn it and accept handouts without ever lifting a finger.

Understandable. Taxes and entitlement spending are out of control.

Raddest_Chad posted...
There wouldn't need to be "handouts" if things weren't so fucked up. Universal healthcare and wages keeping up with inflation, not shipping jobs to China to line corporate pockets, etc. would have made that unnecessary.

"There wouldn't need to be handouts if there were different forms of handouts."

Njord posted...
With a title like that, I was thinking it was more than a single stint in 1978, in which he was arrested for possession of over 650 grams (1.43 lb) of cocaine. Title is a bit misleading, no?

Ducky's whole gimmick, although this is even more ridiculous than usual.

Zareth posted...
The great con is that conservatives give your money away to lazy people too. They just don't give billionaires' money away.

ITP: "Having people pay lower taxes is exactly the same thing as giving money away."

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Nightwish
03/04/21 3:19:02 AM
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Zeus posted...
."There wouldn't need to be handouts if there were different forms of handouts."

How are any of those things "handouts"? Next thing you know these right wing wackers are gonna say we should privatize the fire department.

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Zeus
03/04/21 3:35:20 AM
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Nightwish posted...
How are any of those things "handouts"? Next thing you know these right wing wackers are gonna say we should privatize the fire department.

Free healthcare is literally an entitlement. Next thing you know these left wing wackers are gonna say we should give out free cars, free houses, and free video games.

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Nightwish
03/04/21 4:23:22 AM
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Zeus posted...
Free healthcare is literally an entitlement. Next thing you know these left wing wackers are gonna say we should give out free cars, free houses, and free video games.
Healthcare is an entitlement? Do you really feel that way or are you afraid of change so badly that you'll abandon all empathy just to feel better about yourself? Video games are an entitlement, a brand new car is an entitlement, a large house is an entitlement, all of which should be earned though either hard work, or if you're lucky, a well off family with a decent income. DECENT HEALTHCARE SHOULD NOT BE A FUCKING ENTITLEMENT. It should be a basic human right. The End.

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Lokarin
03/04/21 4:28:02 AM
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Nightwish posted...
Healthcare is an entitlement? Do you really feel that way or are you afraid of change so badly that you'll abandon all empathy just to feel better about yourself?

To be fair; it IS an entitlement... but it is a GOOD one. As follow up, "basic human rights" are also an entitlement, if it weren't - it'd be merely a privilege.

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Funcoland
03/04/21 5:57:19 AM
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I mean, that's really the gist of it for most people that had any degree of money that voted Trump. They save tax dollars. More money in their pocket.

Zeus posted...
Free healthcare is literally an entitlement. Next thing you know these left wing wackers are gonna say we should give out free cars, free houses, and free video games.

"Free heathcare" is something that's basically considered a human right, even by some conservative organizations, such as the Catholic Church. It's something that exists in almost every developed country... Including countries that have right-wing parties that go further to extreme than the Republican party do. Only Americans are so balls deep into capitalism that we think healthcare isn't a blood right.

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Clench281
03/04/21 6:33:25 AM
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There wouldn't be as much need for assistance programs if income/wealth inequality wasn't such a problem. And you fix (or at least prevent the worsening of) that inequality by providing those at the bottom with resources and opportunities.

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Clench281
03/04/21 6:35:25 AM
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I lol when people use entitlement as above

Entitlement means something you have full rights to; something you deserve or are owed

Yes you deserve health care

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Nightwish
03/04/21 6:39:51 AM
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Lokarin posted...
To be fair; it IS an entitlement... but it is a GOOD one. As follow up, "basic human rights" are also an entitlement, if it weren't - it'd be merely a privilege.
True, but the fact that healthcare isn't used in the same breath as other basic services afforded to everyone like the fire department or police puts us far closer to 3rd world country status than nearly anything else in the country. That speaks volumes towards the values of the opponents of universal healthcare.

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deoxxys
03/04/21 3:56:57 PM
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Has Biden said he is going to implement some sort of free medicare? That would be nice.

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Zeus
03/04/21 5:21:54 PM
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I'm also amused that Ducky thinks trying to sell a pound of cocaine is the worst thing Tim Allen ever did. Clearly he never saw Jungle 2 Jungle.

Nightwish posted...
Healthcare is an entitlement?

Free healthcare is literally an entitlement. Do you not understand what entitlements are?

Nightwish posted...
Do you really feel that way or are you afraid of change so badly that you'll abandon all empathy just to feel better about yourself?

Are you really this ignorant about entitlements, etc, or just playing the part?

Nightwish posted...
Video games are an entitlement, a brand new car is an entitlement, a large house is an entitlement, all of which should be earned though either hard work, or if you're lucky, a well off family with a decent income. DECENT HEALTHCARE SHOULD NOT BE A FUCKING ENTITLEMENT.

Just further reinforcing you don't understand what entitlements are. It's also funny that you think healthcare is more essential for people than housing, which is kinda fucked up but unsurprising given how generally clueless you've been on everything else.

Nightwish posted...
It should be a basic human right.

So not only do you not understand what entitlements are, you don't understand what human rights are. Rights exist as protections AGAINST government. Try reading the Bill of Rights some time. Or the Magna Carta. Etc.

Nightwish posted...
The End.

What are you, five? You don't need to put "The end" when you've finished writing a story.

Funcoland posted...
"Free heathcare" is something that's basically considered a human right, even by some conservative organizations, such as the Catholic Church. It's something that exists in almost every developed country... Including countries that have right-wing parties that go further to extreme than the Republican party do. Only Americans are so balls deep into capitalism that we think healthcare isn't a blood right.

Again, not what rights are. As for the example of the church, you're citing the opinions of a liberal Pople while pretending that it's a conservative opinion. The current Pope has broken with pretty much every established tradition and generally leans hard-left on most issues, largely because he was chosen from a far-left nation.

Clench281 posted...
There wouldn't be as much need for assistance programs if income/wealth inequality wasn't such a problem.

Income inequality isn't a problem, at least not the way that it's measured.

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Zeus
03/04/21 5:28:44 PM
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Clench281 posted...
I lol when people use entitlement as above

Entitlement means something you have full rights to; something you deserve or are owed

Yes you deserve health care

...literally not what entitlement means by the conventional political definition. Entitlements aren't "deserved" or "earned," they're pretty much the opposite of that.

Nightwish posted...
True, but the fact that healthcare isn't used in the same breath as other basic services afforded to everyone like the fire department or police puts us far closer to 3rd world country status than nearly anything else in the country. That speaks volumes towards the values of the opponents of universal healthcare.

So on top of everything else, you don't understand the concept of third-world nations. Although, going by a more contemporary definition where -- rather than the classic definitions (either Cold War allegiances or level of development) -- it's nations unable to sustain themselves, implementing another major entitlement program like free healthcare certainly would push the US in that direction.

deoxxys posted...
Has Biden said he is going to implement some sort of free medicare? That would be nice.

Obama dropped the public option pretty quickly from the ACA because it risked the entire ACA in his own party. I can't imagine that Biden, who was less on that train at the time, would decide to go for a public option.

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TaKun782
03/04/21 5:41:55 PM
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Loved him in Home Improvement too, as a person? Nah..dont care as much. I like to separate the art from the artist in these cases as much as separating Gary Glitter from his smash hits.
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OhhhJa
03/04/21 6:05:15 PM
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Why are we acting like this psychopath didn't doxx a bunch of people? Lol
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Funcoland
03/05/21 2:55:05 AM
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Zeus posted...
Again, not what rights are. As for the example of the church, you're citing the opinions of a liberal Pople while pretending that it's a conservative opinion. The current Pope has broken with pretty much every established tradition and generally leans hard-left on most issues, largely because he was chosen from a far-left nation.

There's so much wrong with this comment.

First, the Pope Francis isn't that liberal. He's a lot louder, when it comes to the social doctrines of the Catholic Church, which can make him seem liberal... But he's still against gay marriage, still against abortion, still against trans rights, still against female clergy, etc.

Second, we can agree his predecessor was conservative, right? Well, he believed the same thing. Since the whole social doctrine of the Catholic church tends to believe that clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, and the like aren't suggestions... They are mandates.

Thirdly, again. The idea of health care being a basic human right is pretty much only considered "hard left" in America. Pretty much every other developed nation tends to not think that.

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