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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 2:45:33 PM
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It literally soloed the UK, France, and Russia and handed the USA its bloodiest battle in history. Earth to people that haven't picked up a damn history book, the German Empire fought in WW1!!!!!

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teep_
02/11/21 2:51:00 PM
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As a German

Wehraboos suck
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Smackems
02/11/21 2:51:29 PM
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And then lost

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 2:53:22 PM
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Smackems posted...
And then lost

yeah it took a lot

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yutterh
02/11/21 2:54:10 PM
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Roman Empire is best empire.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/11/21 2:54:58 PM
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I think France has the most historical military victories overall, not sure though

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UnholyMudcrab
02/11/21 2:55:28 PM
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teep_ posted...
As a German

Wehraboos suck

Nonsense. Now sit and listen to my 4,000 word essay about how much of a genius Rommel was.
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Smackems
02/11/21 2:55:52 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
yeah it took a lot
Also didn't last long

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nothanks1
02/11/21 2:57:01 PM
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what empire
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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 2:57:03 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I think France has the most historical military victories overall, not sure though

Napoleonic France is up there, it might be stronger....ughhhh

UnholyMudcrab posted...
Nonsense. Now sit and listen to my 4,000 word essay about how much of a genius Rommel was.

The German Empire, not the inferior third Reich

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Funkydog
02/11/21 2:57:57 PM
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Fuck off you abhorrent holocaust denier.

We all see through what this topic is.

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ShyOx
02/11/21 2:58:24 PM
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Pretty sure the American empire is the one thats still around

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:00:15 PM
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ShyOx posted...
Pretty sure the American empire is the one thats still around

America isn't an empire doe and it can't be tough opponents

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Atralis
02/11/21 3:00:23 PM
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In relative terms the mongols were the strongest. They overran most of Asia and smashed up large European and Middle Eastern armies as well.
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nothanks1
02/11/21 3:00:41 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
what empire

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/21 3:01:01 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
The German Empire, not the inferior third Reich
So... the Prussian Empire?
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Doom_Art
02/11/21 3:05:36 PM
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Considering it let itself collapse after only 50ish years of existence I wouldn't say it was the strongest Empire in history

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:05:39 PM
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Atralis posted...
In relative terms the mongols were the strongest. They overran most of Asia and smashed up large European and Middle Eastern armies as well.

They beat a broken China, but ran in to a wall once they hit stable major powers

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crayola555
02/11/21 3:07:34 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
They beat a broken China, but ran in to a wall once they hit stable major powers

Didn't they take out the Romans too?

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CanuckCowboy
02/11/21 3:08:16 PM
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Reminder Canadians soldiers were the ones handing them their bitch asses when other countries couldn't get it done in tough battles.


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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:08:29 PM
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crayola555 posted...
Didn't they take out the Romans too?

No lol

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/21 3:09:20 PM
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crayola555 posted...
Didn't they take out the Romans too?
I don't think the Mongols and Romans were in the same timeframe, or at least never bothered beating on eachother.
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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:10:43 PM
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ugh I'll give Napoleonic France number 1

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Shablagoo
02/11/21 3:11:48 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
America isn't an empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

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AldousIsDead
02/11/21 3:12:00 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
They beat a broken China, but ran in to a wall once they hit stable major powers
And which stable powers were those? The Mongol expansion stopped because the Ghengis Khan up and croaked.

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/21 3:13:09 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
The Mongol expansion stopped because the Ghengis Khan up and croaked.
That tends to be the end of empires. Just go ask Charlemagne.
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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:14:20 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
NVM, it's Napoleonic France lol...Butttt It literally soloed the UK, France, and Russia and handed the USA its bloodiest battle in history. Earth to people that haven't picked up a damn history book, the German Empire fought in WW1!!!!!

When did it solo the UK and Russia?

Either the British Empire as it never fell or the Roman Empire.

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Doom_Art
02/11/21 3:15:31 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Reminder Canadians soldiers were the ones handing them their bitch asses when other countries couldn't get it done in tough battles.
"Oh are your weak little lungs not working anymore? Pass me my piss rag, we're charging the front." - Canadian Shock Trooper to British and French forces at Vimy Ridge, 1917

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UnholyMudcrab
02/11/21 3:16:06 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
crayola555 posted...
Didn't they take out the Romans too?
I don't think the Mongols and Romans were in the same timeframe, or at least never bothered beating on eachother.

I mean, they were, but the Romans were dealing with the fallout from the Fourth Crusade at the time that the Mongols were traipsing around Eurasia.
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nothanks1
02/11/21 3:16:28 PM
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still not sure what empire since the only one was the nazi germany one
unless tc means Prussia
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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:17:27 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
still not sure what empire since the only one was the nazi germany one
unless tc means Prussia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Empire

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Doom_Art
02/11/21 3:17:28 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I mean, they were, but the Romans were dealing with the fallout from the Fourth Crusade at the time that the Mongols were traipsing around Eurasia.
They weren't really the Romans at that point anymore though? The western empire collapsed like 800 years before the Mongols became a thing.

Unless I've gotten my timelines mixed up

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/21 3:17:45 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I mean, they were, but the Romans were dealing with the fallout from the Fourth Crusade at the time that the Mongols were traipsing around Eurasia.
Wouldn't that have been the Byzantine empire?
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Firewerx
02/11/21 3:18:07 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
what empire
By the end of the 1880s, Germany had the largest colonial empire after Britain and France -- although admittedly, it was largely made up of leftovers. Parts of present-day Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Namibia, Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Central African Republic, Chad, Nigeria, Togo, Ghana, New Guinea, and sundry other West Pacific and Micronesian islands were colonized under the Second Reich.

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:18:50 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
And which stable powers were those? The Mongol expansion stopped because the Ghengis Khan up and croaked.

Mamluks, once the Eastern European powers stabilized they wrecked the mongols the second round, Vietnam,

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Atralis
02/11/21 3:19:31 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
They beat a broken China, but ran in to a wall once they hit stable major powers

That's a bit of a western european way of viewing what they did. A portion of their total force swept through everything from Russia all the way to the German and Austrian borders while other grandsons of Ghenghis were conquering the middle east destroying cities like Baghdad that had populations higher than any city in Europe and yet more grandsons of Ghenghis conquered China which had a population far higher than Europe at the time.

But they were really just paper tigers because they just wrecked people east of Germany.
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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:20:38 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
When did it solo the UK and Russia?

Either the British Empire as it never fell or the Roman Empire.

Because the Americans joined WW1, without them no telling what would've happened

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:21:31 PM
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Atralis posted...
That's a bit of a western european way of viewing what they did. A portion of their total force swept through everything from Russia all the way to the German and Austrian borders while other grandsons of Ghenghis were conquering the middle east destroying cities like Baghdad that had populations higher than any city in Europe and yet more grandsons of Ghenghis conquered China which had a population far higher than Europe at the time.

But they were really just paper tigers because they just wrecked people east of Germany.

They got wrecked in Europe lol hence why they didn't conquer it like China

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UnholyMudcrab
02/11/21 3:22:28 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I mean, they were, but the Romans were dealing with the fallout from the Fourth Crusade at the time that the Mongols were traipsing around Eurasia.
They weren't really the Romans at that point anymore though? The western empire collapsed like 800 years before the Mongols became a thing.

Unless I've gotten my timelines mixed up

I'm mostly being facetious for the topic, but the citizens of the Eastern Roman Empire considered themselves Roman right up to, and even after, the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.
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CanuckCowboy
02/11/21 3:22:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
"Oh are your weak little lungs not working anymore? Pass me my piss rag, we're charging the front." - Canadian Shock Trooper to British and French forces at Vimy Ridge, 1917

Bad ass quote.

The story of the Germans offering cigars to the Canadians on Christmas and the Canadian officer shooting them is great too.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war

*great as in a great story from history. Obviously war isn't great.

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nothanks1
02/11/21 3:23:32 PM
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Doom_Art
02/11/21 3:23:33 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Because the Americans joined WW1, without them no telling what would've happened
Germany was out of food and materials before the US entered the war.

Had the US not declared war it's likely Germany holds out past 1918 by a bit, but they were already sapped

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jon1012
02/11/21 3:24:23 PM
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Are we just going to forget about the Roman Empire?

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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:24:44 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Because the Americans joined WW1, without them no telling what would've happened

The UK side still probably would of won just on sheer manpower of having a much bigger empire the US definitely shortened it though.

Still not said when the German empire solod the UK and Russia.

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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:25:09 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Germany was out of food and materials before the US entered the war.

Had the US not declared war it's likely Germany holds out past 1918 by a bit, but they were already sapped

Also this.

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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:25:59 PM
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jon1012 posted...
Are we just going to forget about the Roman Empire?

I mentioned them earlier.

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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:26:02 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Germany was out of food and materials before the US entered the war.

Had the US not declared war it's likely Germany holds out past 1918 by a bit, but they were already sapped

again took 4 great powers to gang up and beat it :). but I already conceded...

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spikethedevil
02/11/21 3:28:09 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
again took 4 great powers to gang up and beat it :)

Germany also teamed up with another empire and some other places.

The war pitted the Central Powersmainly Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkeyagainst the Alliesmainly France, Great Britain, Russia, Italy, Japan, and, from 1917, the United States. It ended with the defeat of the Central Powers.

When did they solo the UK and Russia?


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Questionmarktarius
02/11/21 3:28:54 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
When did they solo the UK and Russia?
Russia defeated itself in WW1.
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JBaLLEN66
02/11/21 3:29:44 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Germany also teamed up with another empire and some other places.

The war pitted the Central Powersmainly Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkeyagainst the Alliesmainly France, Great Britain, Russia, Italy, Japan, and, from 1917, the United States. It ended with the defeat of the Central Powers.

When did they solo the UK and Russia?

Austria Hungary and the Ottomans were liabilities not assets, On the western front the Germans were fighting the French and British, the Germans defeated the Russians out east


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