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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Yall are over here trying to argue that the lame-ass dying ottoman empire offering itself as an extra punching bag was an actual ally lol.

You said the Ottoman Empire was a "liability". I've explained why it was actually an asset, and how the Germans got a decent return on a relatively cheap investment in their Ottoman ally.

Your counter-argument rests on two ideas: (1) "But they didn't fight on the Western Front, so whatever they did doesn't count!" (presumably then, the German armies that fought on the Eastern Front were equally a waste of German resources?) and (2) "lol".

Stop twisting the word "liability" around to try to make it mean something different to what it actually means. And if that's not what you're doing, then it's evident that your grasp of English is as weak as your understanding of strategy. You might be bang on target by pointing out that Germany's performance for most of the war was nothing short of astonishing, but that makes absolutely no difference whatsoever to the fact that you made an outright blunder by describing the Ottomans a "liability" simply because they didn't fight on the Western Front.

This started out half-promisingly as an interesting topic; but sadly it's degenerated into nonsense gibberish because you're pathologically incapable of conceding that you chose your words poorly on account of having a limited reading of the war.

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cjsdowg posted...

The American Empire. I talk about the US all the time. But damn are we good at killing and pushing around other people.

America can't take a punch one on one

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Firewerx posted...

You said the Ottoman Empire was a "liability". I've explained why it was actually an asset, and how the Germans got a decent return on a relatively cheap investment in their Ottoman ally.

Your counter-argument rests on two ideas: (1) "But they didn't fight on the Western Front, so whatever they did doesn't count!" (presumably then, the German armies that fought on the Eastern Front were equally a waste of German resources?) and (2) "lol".

Stop twisting the word "liability" around to try to make it mean something different to what it actually means. And if that's not what you're doing, then it's evident that your grasp of English words is as weak as your understanding of strategy.

This started out half-promisingly as an interesting topic; but sadly it's degenerated into nonsense gibberish because you're pathologically incapable of conceding that you chose your words poorly on account of having a limited reading of the war.

You are doing a good job trying to polish a piece of **** right now, I'll give you that

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

You are doing a good job trying to polish a piece of **** right now, I'll give you that

Said without a hint of irony.

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

They beat a broken China, but ran in to a wall once they hit stable major powers

No, they didnt. They crushed the Islamic empire in the 1200s causing devastation that still hasnt been recovered from; immediately after that, they defeated massive armies of European knights with ease, with a mere scouting force. By the end of their expansion they had made it all the way to Egypt and established multiple legitimately recognized Chinese dynasties. Their downfall was the creation of multiple warring factions within their own empire that prevented it from sustaining past the early 1300s. They were both strategic and tactical geniuses, who had some of the most impressive leadership at the head of what is probably the greatest pre-gunpowder army of all time; although, they also had access to gunpowder technology due to folding Chinese siegecraft into their army. Modern armies are built using tactics the Russians adopted from the Mongols, which then were passed to the Germans in a secret exchange and later modeled by other armies through contact with the German army.

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spikethedevil posted...

Said without a hint of irony.

it's amazing, imagine losing money on a horrible deal and spinning it positively. This dude should have been the Trump campaign's spoke person.

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German empire was certainly well drilled and the strongest individual military of its time. And Napoleonic France revolutionized warfare and became the strongest military of their time.

But "strongest empire to exist"? Neither take that.

Romans most overall influential. British with the largest international presence. Mongols with the strongest military relative to its peers. America is currently the most powerful, and therefore the most powerful military to ever exist.

I do think that ww1 german army is underrated, though. Much better than the more famous ww2 army. If there's no lol, they probably would have took Paris, still beat up the Russians, and never agitate America into the war.

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

You are doing a good job trying to polish a piece of **** right now, I'll give you that

I've been trying to polish the shitbucket that you've turned your own topic into. That's my charitable deed for the day, and it's more than you deserved. But this is the point where I stop engaging with you as if you were to be taken seriously.

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doomcrusader posted...

If there's no miracle at Dunkirk, they probably would have took Paris, still beat up the Russians, and never agitate America into the war.

I think you're getting your wars mixed up there
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doomcrusader posted...

German empire was certainly well drilled and the strongest individual military of its time. And Napoleonic France revolutionized warfare and became the strongest military of their time.

But "strongest empire to exist"? Neither take that.

Romans most overall influential. British with the largest international presence. Mongols with the strongest military relative to its peers. America is currently the most powerful, and therefore the most powerful military to ever exist.

I do think that ww1 german army is underrated, though. Much better than the more famous ww2 army. If there's no miracle at Dunkirk, they probably would have took Paris, still beat up the Russians, and never agitate America into the war.

Thank you, I already admitted I was wrong but wanted people to acknowledge that the WW1 Germany is underrated lol. Dude over here trying to sound cute by being a car salesman for the ottoman empire got me worked up lol.

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They were definitely a force to be reckoned with.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I think you're getting your wars mixed up there

Yeah damn lol... Point still remains, though.

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Firewerx posted...

I've been trying to polish the shitbucket that you've turned your own topic into. That's my charitable deed for the day, and it's more than you deserved. But this is the point where I stop engaging with you as if you were to be taken seriously.

You have done nothing but try and sell a used beat 2000 Bmw as a brand new BMW. The Ottoman Empire was a terrible ally for German's and did nothing but divert resources from the Allied powers which is the literal bare minimum of an ally can do. The worst it could've done was backstab the Germans and join the Allies. I'm sorry dude, but that's not a good ally whatsoever.

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I thought the British Empire was at it's strongest under Queen Victoria and had officially conquered the most land.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I thought the British Empire was at it's strongest under Queen Victoria and had officially conquered the most land.

because all the other countries were recovering from Napoleon and America was a newbie

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