Current Events > The MGS3 codec calls are really magical. Top tier gameplay mechanic.

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Playing as a kid on the 3DS remake I'd call all the time and it felt like there was endless audio content. Snake and Zero will have a discussion about JFK's call for a man on the moon, and Zero cant really imagine it while Snake has a lot of faith in the idea.

If you pick up the glow-in-the-dark mushrooms, Snake can ask Paramedic if eating them will recharge the batteries of his equipment, which Paramedic balks at. If you eat the mushrooms (discovering they really do recharge your batteries) and call back, Snake will say so, and you will hear Paramedic, Zero, and Sigint crowding around Paramedic's desk and whispering about whether Snake is mentally compromised and may need to abort the mission.

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Doe posted...

Playing as a kid on the 3DS

UUA

Yeah that shit was amazing.

MGS3 on 3DS was a fucking amazing game even though the Framerate was ass. Fuck I might redownload it and play again.

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Doe posted...

If you pick up the glow-in-the-dark mushrooms, Snake can ask Paramedic if eating them will recharge the batteries of his equipment, which Paramedic balks at. If you eat the mushrooms (discovering they really do recharge your batteries) and call back, Snake will say so, and you will hear Paramedic, Zero, and Sigint crowding around Paramedic's desk and whispering about whether Snake is mentally compromised and may need to abort the mission.

I had no idea that was a thing, that's amazing.
God I love MGS.

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

UUA

That game is 9 years old. I'm sure the TC was over the age of 4 when they played it.
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It's insane how much dialogue they packed into that game. From Paramedic talking about movies to Sigint having something interesting to say about all your equipment. I almost always tried calling everyone the second I encountered something new because I just loved the back and forth between them and Snake. Especially the silly convos like the box or naked camo call with Sigint

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yeah the devs really went out of their way to have radio calls about every conceivable aspect of the game, including whatever Snake was up to.

Is there a trick for ds2 pressure buttons? I can't get consistent with aiming > shooting

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Solo_Wing posted...

Is there a trick for ds2 pressure buttons? I can't get consistent with aiming > shooting

It's been forever since I played, but basically you hold square down lightly (do not push all the way) to aim your gun, then firmly press it down to fire. Same with CQC, hold circle slightly down to grab and hold them, pushing it all the way down executes the enemy

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one of the funniest parts in any mgs game is calling sigint after you have that weird dream minigame in the prison, which makes sigint talk about a recurring nightmare he has where towns and people are turning into shit and makes snake incredibly confused and uncomfortable

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I've always liked the box convo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqS18aj6Vis

Also the subtle 4th wall break of the Patriot convo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu6uEPlp9m8

Was that your first MGS game? Check out 2. It's got a ton of codec dialogue. There's a character named Rose who will talk endlessly about all types of things. Mostly days.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

It's been forever since I played, but basically you hold square down lightly (do not push all the way) to aim your gun, then firmly press it down to fire. Same with CQC, hold circle slightly down to grab and hold them, pushing it all the way down executes the enemy

Aight. I just feel like I'd break the controller with how it wants me to press it all the way in. I remember this as the reason I didn't love the ps2 titles as much mgs because I was scared of breaking the pad.

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harley2280 posted...

Was that your first MGS game? Check out 2. It's got a ton of codec dialogue. There's a character named Rose who will talk endlessly about all types of things. Mostly days.

dont let this get out of this topic but I've only played the BB games. 3, PW and GZ/TPP >_>

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pokedude900 posted...

That game is 9 years old.

https://m.imgur.com/rAFP13z

Good god it feels like yesterday

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Doe posted...

dont let this get out of this topic but I've only played the BB games. 3, PW and GZ/TPP >_>

Fix that
Now

In MGS2, if you let Raiden get pissed on, Campbell will say "it's called wetworks for a reason".

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Azardea posted...

Fix that
Now

^this

MGS2 started it all for me, so many little things that weirded me out like using the 'r' stick to swing a sword or 'O' to select/confirm.. even the infinite ammo thing near the end was just crazy

This always cracks me up lol

https://youtu.be/FXpWW1V5ObM?t=979

Love the box one too

It was my destiny to be in in here; in the box

YEAH!!!

So, you couldn't enjoy the Secret Theater?

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A shame you played arguably the worst version.

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yunalenne10 posted...

So, you couldn't enjoy the Secret Theater?

I've at least seen the one where The Boss does rock paper scissors on youtube

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Garioshi posted...

A shame you played arguably the worst version.

i mean the original version didn't even let you use over the shoulder camera

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Garioshi posted...

A shame you played arguably the worst version.

Nah. The original release of 3 is the worse version.
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Doe posted...

i mean the original version didn't even let you use over the shoulder camera

Yes, but it doesn't run at 10 fps. The camera is absolutely terrible, but I would rather replay MGS3 with the locked camera than have some areas be literally unplayable.

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This kind of thing is how I know I'm not an MGS person. Like, the calls can be fun sometimes, but I want to play the game.

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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

This kind of thing is how I know I'm not an MGS person. Like, the calls can be fun sometimes, but I want to play the game.

That is the game

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RedJackson posted...

That is the game

The game is doing stealth things, what you are doing is watching youtube using the game as a browser!

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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

The game is doing stealth things, what you are doing is watching youtube using the game as a browser!

a CODEC call is the most stealth thing ever - this is just how daddy did it back then with a RADIO in those days


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Garioshi posted...

Doe posted...

i mean the original version didn't even let you use over the shoulder camera

Yes, but it doesn't run at 10 fps. The camera is absolutely terrible, but I would rather replay MGS3 with the locked camera than have some areas be literally unplayable.

TC is literally talking about how he played it. So it's not literally unplayable. I own all 3 versions of the game, and the original release is by far the worst.
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You have to keep in mind I was like 12 when I played Snake Eater 3D I'm not sure I knew what framerates even are. I do remember looking for a shooter game or something for my 3DS and I saw the blurb for it on GameFAQs and I thought it sounded so cool

October 16, 1962. The President of the United States received word that the Soviet Union had deployed nuclear missiles in Cuba. The world trembled in fear as the prospect of nuclear war loomed ever closer. After days of tense negotiations, the Soviets finally agreed on the 28th to withdraw their missiles from Cuban soil. With the resolution of this incident, later to be known as the Cuban Missile Crisis, it seemed that humanity had survived yet another threat to its existence.

However, there was a secret condition in the deal that put an end to the crisis. Nokolai Stepanovich Sokolov, a Soviet scientist who had defected to the West, was to be sent back to the Soviet Union. The U.S. government agreed to this stipulation, and returned Sokolov back to his native land. Little did they know that Sokolov was to be the designer of a nightmarish weapon. Now, with Sokolov back in their hands, the Soviets are ready to resume its development. If this weapon is completed, it will mark the beginning of a new age of fear.

August 1964. Realizing at last the urgency of the situation, the CIA forms a plan to recapture Sokolov. They dispatch the covert FOX unit to Sokolov's research facility, located to the south of the great Soviet fortress of Groznyj Grad. Led by former SAS member Major Zero, FOX is a next-generation special-forces unit that operates both as a specialized combat group and as a covert intelligence outfit. The FOX unit's modus operandi is to send a single agent, backed by radio support from afar, into enemy territory to carry out solo sneaking missions.

August 24. A lone soldier swoops down from out of the blue. The man's code name is Naked Snake.

This blurb filled me with so much interest and intrigue. Also I was afraid my mom wouldn't approve of it because of the word 'naked' in his code name lmao. But at the same time I thought that just made it cooler because someone with an unusual code name like that must be very interesting.

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The whole Para-Medic nerding out about movies is basically Kojima talking. He's (obviously) a huge film nerd.

winged_weltall posted...

The whole Para-Medic nerding out about movies is basically Kojima talking. He's (obviously) a huge film nerd.

that's interesting to imagine Kojima chose Paramedic as his avatar of sorts

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Doe posted...

winged_weltall posted...

The whole Para-Medic nerding out about movies is basically Kojima talking. He's (obviously) a huge film nerd.

that's interesting to imagine Kojima chose Paramedic as his avatar of sorts

In later games he figured out he could just put himself in.
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harley2280 posted...

TC is literally talking about how he played it. So it's not literally unplayable. I own all 3 versions of the game, and the original release is by far the worst.

Have you fought The Fear on 3DS? Single-digit framerate nearly the entire way through. This is hampered even further by the absolutely terrible control scheme. I'm on N3DS, and the nub absolutely doesn't cut it. I can't even imagine what base 3DS players have to deal with. I had to do the quick kill on him because there's just no other consistent way to win.

Again, though, I did say it was debatably the worst version. What you value in playability is yours, and I can't make you value the things I do.

Regardless, MGS3 is the GOAT. Best Metal Gear game, best Kojima game, best stealth game, best survival game, best James Bond game.

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Garioshi posted...

Have you fought The Fear on 3DS? Single-digit framerate nearly the entire way through. This is hampered even further by the absolutely terrible control scheme. I'm on N3DS, and the nub absolutely doesn't cut it. I can't even imagine what base 3DS players have to deal with. I had to do the quick kill on him because there's just no other consistent way to win.

I played on the first edition of the 3DS I was nearly an ambassador and I never had any serious issue with the framerate. It's probably uncomfortable if you're used to the PS2 framerate but it really is manageable. I've beat The Fear doing foxhound run on extreme on 3ds soooo

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Doe posted...

I played on the first edition of the 3DS I was nearly an ambassador and I never had any serious issue with the framerate. It's probably uncomfortable if you're used to the PS2 framerate but it really is manageable. I've beat The Fear doing foxhound run on extreme on 3ds soooo

I salute you for doing something I cannot.

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Garioshi posted...

best James Bond game

Yeah, they had that topic of Kojima is the Stanley Kubric of vidya but I think he really drew influence from the way something like a Bond movie is presented. He's still GOAT to me despite the whole new wave movement of him being overrated

The fanboy lives

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Pretty much anything with Paramedic is golden and its worth going topless and also wearing the tux then call the Boss for some laughs.

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yeah but how do the people around snake not hear him talking?
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RedJackson posted...

Yeah, they had that topic of Kojima is the Stanley Kubric of vidya but I think he really drew influence from the way something like a Bond movie is presented. He's still GOAT to me despite the whole new wave movement of him being overrated

The fanboy lives

MGS3 (and MGS1 to a lesser extent) is inarguably a huge James Bond homage, but quite a few of the major tropes are amazingly subverted.

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Garioshi posted...

MGS3 (and MGS1 to a lesser extent) is inarguably a huge James Bond homage, but quite a few of the major tropes are amazingly subverted.

What a thrill...

I was like yeah lol

I forget what interview it was with harry gregson where he was like saying that Kojima basically didn't have his next setting completely set and he offered a jungle setting because writing music for MGS2 took him forever lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrXDTnrYgA
^ that's pretty cool in regards to MGS2 though

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RedJackson posted...

What a thrill...

I was like yeah lol

I forget what interview it was with harry gregson where he was like saying that Kojima basically didn't have his next setting completely set and he offered a jungle setting because writing music for MGS2 took him forever lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrXDTnrYgA
^ that's pretty cool in regards to MGS2 though

As I understand it, Williams said he didn't want to do a third Metal Gear in the style of the first two, so he asked Kojima for a jungle setting. Kojima had already settled on it, but he wanted to seem like he was trying to go out of his way for him, so he told Williams that he changed the setting just for him.

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Garioshi posted...

As I understand it, Williams said he didn't want to do a third Metal Gear in the style of the first two, so he asked Kojima for a jungle setting. Kojima had already settled on it, but he wanted to seem like he was trying to go out of his way for him, so he told Williams that he changed the setting just for him.

Oh wow - yeah, that's incredible might've been that interview then

My first exposure to MGS was 2.. playing that as a kid really turned my head not understanding hoohaw about the world lol

Seeing like images of Solid Snake and that music along with it made me very aware of how futuristic vidya was in terms of art - it was definitely something that growing up made me aware of 'oh so theres like music, painting, and interaction that can all occur in a space'

It's not much saying you're an MGS fan, but it's honest work lol


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Game runs like at 15 fps on the 3DS

Favorite one was hiding in a box and calling Signit. He comments on it and snake tell him "it feels like home".

And all the movie dialogue between snake and Paramedic. He telling him about Godzilla was grand.

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