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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/21 12:49:33 PM
#252:


masterplum posted...
This would be better. We've had two pages of people wanting to get in on Doge because its up 500%

Like you guys realize that you probably missed the boat right? Just because it went up 500% doesn't mean its going up another 500%

A friend of mine got sucked into the WSB discord and just bought every single thing he read, it hurt me to see. (Because I did the same thing like 5 years ago with the last crypto boom)

Heres what he said about GME/AMC after the weekend where Robinhood shutdown buying and basically ended the whole thing.



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masterplum
02/07/21 12:52:10 PM
#253:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
A friend of mine got sucked into the WSB discord and just bought every single thing he read, it hurt me to see. (Because I did the same thing like 5 years ago with the last crypto boom)

Heres what he said about GME/AMC after the weekend where Robinhood shutdown buying and basically ended the whole thing.


I find it morbidly hilarious. EVERYONE in this topic who got in on AMC and sold in a reasonable time made money. We were all on it. People trying to get in now because money was made is really dumb (Barring some long term holding arguments, but lets be honest, nobody is jumping in on AMC for the first time right now because of their long term prospects)

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GameStonk
02/07/21 1:18:47 PM
#254:


masterplum posted...
We might as well rename this topic to ponzi scheme topic
Is this in reference to DOGE or are there really still people who think crypto is some kind of scam?
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red sox 777
02/07/21 1:20:25 PM
#255:


I vote we keep the name as is. We can talk about crypto even though it technically isn't a stock.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/07/21 1:21:10 PM
#256:


keep name as is, fuck it.

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Colegreen_c12
02/07/21 1:34:13 PM
#257:


GameStonk posted...
Is this in reference to DOGE or are there really still people who think crypto is some kind of scam?

Crypto isn't neccessarily a scam but it basically is a ponzi scheme lol. You are buying with the assumption that someone will buy it from you for more later. It has no intrinsic value that is increasing that makes you able to say that it isn't a ponzi scheme.

But really I feel like you either rename this Investment Topic or keep it Stock Topic.

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Sunroof
02/07/21 1:38:31 PM
#258:


Dont you all worry
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Forceful_Dragon
02/07/21 1:42:14 PM
#259:


Colegreen_c12 posted...
It has no intrinsic value

You just described currency as a whole. That paper in your wallet has the value that we've collectively attributed to it.

Yeah the USD used to be backed by gold, but gold also merely has the value that we've given to it.

How is crypto substantially different?

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GameStonk
02/07/21 1:45:32 PM
#260:


Colegreen_c12 posted...
Crypto isn't neccessarily a scam but it basically is a ponzi scheme lol. You are buying with the assumption that someone will buy it from you for more later. It has no intrinsic value that is increasing that makes you able to say that it isn't a ponzi scheme.
This can be said about gold and silver too. That's not a "scheme"--it's how currency works
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Forceful_Dragon
02/07/21 1:46:39 PM
#261:


I beat ya to it

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red sox 777
02/07/21 1:46:41 PM
#262:


I would say that gold and silver have the same characteristic where most of their value comes from people collectively assigning them value. Fiat currency definitely has that characteristic. But, gold and silver have been valuable for thousands of years, and that's because people genuinely believe it is valuable, so they are willing to hold it.

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Colegreen_c12
02/07/21 1:48:18 PM
#263:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
You just described currency as a whole. That paper in your wallet has the value that we've collectively attributed to it.

Yeah the USD used to be backed by gold, but gold also merely has the value that we've given to it.

How is crypto substantially different?

Gold has intrinsic value. Whether it is worth what people pay for it is another story.

USD is somewhat similar to crypto in you could essentially argue its also a ponzi scheme, although it is one backed by a government and carefully regulated to ensure it has a healthy rate of inflation and that has been used a currency for a long time.

Cryptocurrencys are barely even currencies. Basically nobody uses them as such, they just treat it as a store of value.

Lets put it this way, if gold dropped to $0.01 an oz I would buy it cause I know its worth more than that. If bitcoin dropped to $0.01 a coin I couldn't say the same

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StartTheMachine
02/07/21 2:01:52 PM
#264:


I see "buy with bitcoin" all the time on sites these days.

Now doge I would just get in for the quick flip

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Forceful_Dragon
02/07/21 2:04:07 PM
#265:


Colegreen_c12 posted...
Gold has intrinsic value. Whether it is worth what people pay for it is another story.

USD is somewhat similar to crypto in you could essentially argue its also a ponzi scheme, although it is one backed by a government and carefully regulated to ensure it has a healthy rate of inflation and that has been used a currency for a long time.

Cryptocurrencys are barely even currencies. Basically nobody uses them as such, they just treat it as a store of value.

Lets put it this way, if gold dropped to $0.01 an oz I would buy it cause I know its worth more than that. If bitcoin dropped to $0.01 a coin I couldn't say the same


Not true of all coins.

Take Stellar Lumens (XLM) for example. Stellar is an app that can be used to send currency to other people for a fraction of the cost of traditional money wiring and much faster. Rather than charging their fee for this service in any particular fiat currency their fee is charged using their own coin. As a result there will be a regular demand for this coin that rises and falls with the popularity of the apps usage.

BNB is the same. It's the Binance coin that can be used to pay the fee for trades on Binance at lower than the standard rate (0.075% instead of 0.1%) so there will be a demand for the coin if only for that reason.

And you could argue that those coins have the potential to lose all their value as their marketplaces become less relevant and that is true. The same way a stock can lose its value if a company goes bankrupt or a fiat currency loses value if a country dissolves or adopts a new currency.

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Colegreen_c12
02/07/21 2:18:28 PM
#266:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Not true of all coins.

Take Stellar Lumens (XLM) for example. Stellar is an app that can be used to send currency to other people for a fraction of the cost of traditional money wiring and much faster. Rather than charging their fee for this service in any particular fiat currency their fee is charged using their own coin. As a result there will be a regular demand for this coin that rises and falls with the popularity of the apps usage.

BNB is the same. It's the Binance coin that can be used to pay the fee for trades on Binance at lower than the standard rate (0.075% instead of 0.1%) so there will be a demand for the coin if only for that reason.

And you could argue that those coins have the potential to lose all their value as their marketplaces become less relevant and that is true. The same way a stock can lose its value if a company goes bankrupt or a fiat currency loses value if a country dissolves or adopts a new currency.


I think I accidentally deleted this line from my initial post. I wanted to say that I personally think blockchain technology itself is greatly valuable but none of the coins themselves are. As soon as banks start using the technology most of these quick transfer programs with a small fee attached become obsolete cause you can just do the same thing through your bank.

Comparing cryptocurrency to a stock is unfortunately not the same thing in the slightest. Stocks in the long term are based on a underlying companies valuation as well as expectations for future valuations. (This isn't a perfect thing however. There are short term outliers and people with unrealistic expectations for a company. But at the end of the day if a company makes more and more money its going to be worth more and more. If it makes less and less money its going to be worth less and less.) A cryptocurrency is not based on any underlying thing. It's based merely on the prospect that someone will buy it for more down the road.

Now I don't think cryptocurrencies are worthless. I expect at least 1 or 2 to survive for quite a long time as an asset. But I personally have no idea which and have no desire to get involved.

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Jakyl25
02/07/21 5:19:47 PM
#267:


Doge at 8 cents

I think people genuinely believe theres a Super Bowl ad

I am ready to bail when they realize that didnt happen <_<
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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/21 5:21:02 PM
#268:


Ok but

what if Elon sprung for one

Because he bought a billion at .008, and he knows the payoff is imminent

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Jakyl25
02/07/21 5:24:24 PM
#269:


Then Ill hold!
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HanOfTheNekos
02/07/21 5:53:37 PM
#270:


How high will doge climb?

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CoolCly
02/07/21 5:54:39 PM
#271:


oh i tried to buy some doge last night but binance declined my canadian credit card and i gave up noooo the gains

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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/21 5:56:32 PM
#272:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
How high will doge climb?

Literally impossible to know.

It could shoot up to 30 cents and then collapse back down to 3 cents for all we know.

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Jakyl25
02/07/21 6:00:23 PM
#273:


I saw an analysis that said its realistic peak is between 12 and 13 cents but who knows

It got from 8 to 9 so quickly and got BTFO back to 8
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SteveNasti
02/07/21 6:01:34 PM
#274:


we like the coin

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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/21 6:03:40 PM
#275:


Jakyl25 posted...
I saw an analysis that said its realistic peak is between 12 and 13 cents but who knows

It got from 8 to 9 so quickly and got BTFO back to 8

So you're saying sell at 12, got it.

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Sunroof
02/07/21 7:14:00 PM
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Nanis23
02/07/21 7:19:32 PM
#277:


I am still annoyed I knew Dogecoin would blast off but never went in because I didn't know how to buy it

Of course I would only invest like $40 but this is still like $300 I could have got

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Sunroof
02/07/21 7:20:18 PM
#278:


Hey I was about to put $5k in last week until Coinbase told me I couldnt!
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Sunroof
02/07/21 7:20:33 PM
#279:


And I refuse to download RH
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Jakyl25
02/07/21 10:42:06 PM
#280:


Got outta Doge for now. Too volatile today. Doubled my money so Im not pressed if it peaks again.
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HeroicCrono
02/08/21 6:00:30 AM
#281:


GME doing well in premarket.....at $71.

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Nanis23
02/08/21 6:48:07 AM
#282:


Bought one stock of gme and going to hold it either to 1000 or to 6

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Sunroof
02/08/21 9:11:58 AM
#283:


Tesla accepting Bitcoin as payment. Bitcoin up 14%. Tesla up 2%. Guess who has both ;)
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MoogleKupo141
02/08/21 9:12:33 AM
#284:


Jaleel White?
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GameStonk
02/08/21 9:13:05 AM
#285:


GameStonk posted...
And Bitcoin just re-crossed 40k.

50k will be reached in 2 weeks. Book it.

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Sunroof
02/08/21 9:20:17 AM
#286:


Man I knew I shouldve gotten Zillow and Shopify last week when I mentioned them. I ended up planning to wait for a red day. Theyre both up today, dang.
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GameStonk
02/08/21 9:20:46 AM
#287:


What a time to be alive.

I hope many of you will join me in coinbase now. The timing is working out splendidly.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/08/21 9:20:47 AM
#288:


So I won a lot of money on the superbowl. Got paid in bitcoin. Wake up. I am happy lol

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GameStonk
02/08/21 9:21:27 AM
#289:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
So I won a lot of money on the superbowl. Got paid in bitcoin. Wake up. I am happy lol
Haha that is awesome
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Forceful_Dragon
02/08/21 9:27:50 AM
#290:


If you had lost the bet were you going to pay them in pokemon cards? :D

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DoomTheGyarados
02/08/21 9:29:03 AM
#291:


Lmao. That's an idea.

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ninkendo
02/08/21 9:36:38 AM
#292:


doge going up again I wonder if it's a side effect of the Tesla thing

I have sell order if it reaches 10 cents for 20% of what I own just so I finally have 1K to play with. I'll probably just reinvest in doge though once it drops again

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masterplum
02/08/21 9:51:10 AM
#293:


Getting close to interested in AMC again

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Sunroof
02/08/21 10:10:53 AM
#294:


I decided to get into Z and SHOP now. Holding til after ER.
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masterplum
02/08/21 10:14:37 AM
#295:


Bought 100 AMC at 6.05

Planning on buying more if it falls below 5

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Nanis23
02/08/21 10:26:39 AM
#296:


Nanis23 posted...
Bought one stock of gme and going to hold it either to 1000 or to 6
Yikes

Yeah GME is done
If it's going down when there is no limited trading...yeah
What would make it gain steam again? Probably nothing

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Nanis23
02/08/21 10:27:24 AM
#297:


ninkendo posted...
doge going up again I wonder if it's a side effect of the Tesla thing

I have sell order if it reaches 10 cents for 20% of what I own just so I finally have 1K to play with. I'll probably just reinvest in doge though once it drops again
You know the whole market is in a bubble when SHINE posts here

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Lopen
02/08/21 10:35:14 AM
#298:


I freed just over half of my AMC puts close to market open for a few hundred dollar gain because I realized that I don't want potentially 14k of assets wheeling AMC

Going to ride these last 10 to expiry though. If I get assigned 1000 shares of AMC at $7 so be it I don't see how it's worth less than $5.95 (my adjusted cost of letting the $7 puts assign)

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ExThaNemesis
02/08/21 10:37:14 AM
#299:


ETH doing so well. Love to see it.

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GameStonk
02/08/21 10:45:44 AM
#300:


ExThaNemesis posted...
ETH doing so well. Love to see it.
I thought you sold to buy GME at $400?
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ExThaNemesis
02/08/21 10:47:03 AM
#301:


yes and then I sold GME to get back into my cryptos.

Up on ETH and ADA through the weekend.

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