Current Events > My conservative grandpa said that Millennials could own homes if they wanted to.

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He said that when he was a young man, he did backbreaking hard work in the construction industry, and through investing, he bought a 4 bedroom house in the suburbs.

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He's right... All they need to do is stop spending so much time on Twitter, Facebook, jerking off to OF and get a job working 23.5 hours a day.
And stop buying poncey arsehole coffee every day for 5.65 a pop..


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DravenRainrix posted...

poncey arsehole

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Just have money, it's EZ!

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Boomers dont understand inflation and wage stagnation

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Wasn't that like, back when dinosaurs were alive? LOL

The issue is, yo udon't own the land the piece of art of woods/materials stands on

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I don't really care about owning a home at all... In fact I just want my shelter to be functional and the cost to be low.

Sounds like your granddad is out of touch.

Edit: But I guess I want some normalcy and that involves Being horny for trolls?

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His wife probably didn't work, and he probably had like 6 kids too. Likely sent them all to college just banging a hammer.


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I mean, yeah, we could technically work 10 hours a day at work to buy a Barbie's Playhouse.

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While he's obviously not 100% correct, if you add up all the modern luxuries that grandpa never had it does start to add up. Cable tv, internet, and a smartphone with a data contract alone is probably $200 or more per month out of everybody's pocket that Grandpa didn't have to worry about. I imagine people are hiring contractors as well at a much higher rate for things like home and auto repairs and people are probably not mending their own clothes when they get holes.

Yes, inflation and wages play a factor, as does the fact that the cheaper suburban homes are obviously much further from city centers now than they were 80 years ago due to population growth, but there is something to be said for the fact that older generations made due with much less then most people do now which does play a factor into why they were able to afford more property. I see a lot of people saying that they should be able to buy a home as easily as somebody from the '40s, but nobody ever says that they're willing to live like people from the '40s in order to have that extra income available.

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It depends on where you're at. I bought my 1st house at 19, but I'm not going to pretend that I could have done the same thing in California or New York.

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I dont understand why boomers dont get that minimum wage has been the same while cost of living and housing has gone up tremendously.

this includes inflation. Also getting a good job way over minimum requires a college degree which also costs a shit ton more money than the past. Trade school is an option but good luck to your health in your later years

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we would if the government would just gimmie stimmie

The lack of ownership you guys have over your lives is staggering. Everything is someone else's fault.

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Most of these boomers didn't have the luxury of living at home until they're 30 like millennials. Maybe get a job or two and save up for a down payment instead of smoking weed and playing videos and complaining about how easy boomers had it.

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I mean they can, just not in california where they probably want to live.

Can guarantee most could grab houses in flyover states, but yeah. He's not wrong, it's just one of those "well technically" things.

Its possible if you move out of a city I live in area in Canada with the 2nd highest housing prices in the country. Holmes here are up to a million now you need a minimum of 200k in addition to getting approved for a mortgage.


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impossible in a place like LA or SF

the house would have to be in a place where nobody wants to live

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butthole666 posted...

Boomers dont understand inflation and wage stagnation

Boomers came of age around the time of Nixon-era stagflation.

Boomers could buy a house right out of high school without a college education working a 40 hour a week factory job. Their wives didn't even need to work.

They are so grossly out of touch with reality.

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DravenRainrix posted...

He's right... All they need to do is stop spending so much time on Twitter, Facebook, jerking off to OF and get a job working 23.5 hours a day.
And stop buying poncey arsehole coffee every day for 5.65 a pop..

Imagine being a nancy that needs more that half an hour of sleep. They just don't make men the same anymore. Back in my day, blinking was what we considered sleep.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Imagine being a nancy that needs more that half an hour of sleep. They just don't make men the same anymore. Back in my day, blinking was what we considered sleep.

Aye and even then we 'ad to space out the blinks is as to only have 4 an hour. If we 'ad five we'd be whipped by a leather belt with studs in it.

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Your grandpa is wrong, the people complaining about wage stagnation and other such things are correct. Tell your grandpa to stop being such a worthless leech and to adjust his beliefs properly.

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He's right.

Part of the problem seems to be they feel like they should be able to live where they want to, instead of where they can afford to.

There is nothing wrong with living in Midwestern states.

I suspect that a lot of the people who talk about only wanting to live in big cities, because smaller cities, suburbs, and towns are too boring are a lot like people who spend thousands of dollars on cutting edge PC hardware just to play Minecraft. They're going to want to live in LA because it's trendy, but they'll probably just spend most of their time on the internet at home anyway.

Esrac posted...

He's right.

Part of the problem seems to be they feel like they should be able to live where they want to, instead of where they can afford to.

There is nothing wrong with living in Midwestern states.

I suspect that a lot of the people who talk about only wanting to live in big cities, because smaller cities, suburbs, and towns are too boring are a lot like people who spend thousands of dollars on cutting edge PC hardware just to play Minecraft. They're going to want to live in LA because it's trendy, but they'll probably just spend most of their time on the internet at home anyway.

There's a lot of generalizing here.

The fact is, millennials have higher student debt (boomers told us we needed to go to college), housing costs are higher, and available houses are older meaning that there's likely going to be some work needed on them.

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I don't have a cutting edge PC and still wouldn't want to live in the Ranch. Dr. Phil literally used ranch as a threat!

I actually do live in LA though. I was born here and haven't really considered moving. Like to Alaska or something. What would I do in Alaska anyway. I stay inside all day!

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Also the buyer is on the hook for the inspection, which can be upwards of $300 and you don't get that back if it turns out there are major deal breakers found like foundation issues.

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I know this topic is a joke but budgeting is a thing. It prolly won't buy you a 4 bedroom but it would help some.

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I have no desire to own a home, I prefer amt apartment I personally dont have to do maintenance or yard work

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Will_VIIII posted...

There's a lot of generalizing here.

The fact is, millennials have higher student debt (boomers told us we needed to go to college), housing costs are higher, and available houses are older meaning that there's likely going to be some work needed on them.

There's a lot of generalizing every time people complain that boomers had it easy. A whole lot goes unspoken when people say that somebody with a high school degree could get a job and have a wife a bunch of kids and a house and live comfortably.

And saying that student debt is higher, which is absolutely true, still doesn't address the points that people have brought up about where people are choosing to live and what luxuries they're choosing to have. nor does it address the fact that the country has a shortage of skilled blue collar and trade workers and that people would be perfectly able to make $60,000 as an electrician and live comfortably in the midwest if they didn't spend their formative years making fun of the Midwest and looking down on blue collar workers. those options still exist, even to the people with student debt, but I have to imagine that pride plays a large part in not admitting to it.

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I'd like to see this data about people snubbing the midwest or comparable areas because it still appears to be a generalization.

That said, big cities are often where the jobs are for specialized degrees that again, boomers said we needed.

And for the record I actually live in the midwest and bought my first home last year.

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I can't even operate a toaster, why would I try to become an electrician? I'd probably become a new Spider-Man villain!

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Will_VIIII posted...

Also the buyer is on the hook for the inspection, which can be upwards of $300 and you don't get that back if it turns out there are major deal breakers found like foundation issues.

So? You're paying a professional to give you peace of mind that you won't have to sell your car to replace the roof next week.

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

So? You're paying a professional to give you peace of mind that you won't have to sell your car to replace the roof next week.

But you're out $300 if the house is not in a livable condition. ...do you not get that?

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Will_VIIII posted...

But you're out $300 if the house is not in a livable condition. ...do you not get that?

Is $300 supposed to be a lot of money? When you're buying a house?

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

Is $300 supposed to be a lot of money? When you're buying a house?

You're making it pretty clear you have no experience in buying a house.

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Im in the process of planning to buy a home and its hell.

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Will_VIIII posted...

You're making it pretty clear you have no experience in buying a house.

And you do? How many houses have had major, dealbreaker issues you didn't see for yourself before hiring the home inspector? Rental application fees are the real scam. People will charge $25 for you to apply for a room/apartment, keep the money, and keep charging people without ever renting it out.

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I literally said I bought my first house last year.

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They can own their own homes when they can afford to pay them off when they turn 100.

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Remember when entry level jobs could get you a house?

I don't, I'm only 30.

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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

Remember when entry level jobs could get you a house?

I don't, I'm only 30.

Why are you doing an entry level job at age 30? My conservative grandpa started from the bottom and became a foreman at his company.

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Don't forget that corporations don't build things to last anymore, they spend a lot of money to figure out new ways to rip us off. Boomers also had an upbringing that included a father.

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

Why are you doing an entry level job at age 30? My conservative grandpa started from the bottom and became a foreman at his company.

Why are you a NEET in their late 30s?

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

Why are you doing an entry level job at age 30? My conservative grandpa started from the bottom and became a foreman at his company.

Who said I was, what?

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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

Remember when entry level jobs could get you a house?

I don't, I'm only 30.

What state do you live in, and what do you consider an entry level salary?

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s0nicfan posted...

What state do you live in, and what do you consider an entry level salary?

KINDA FUCKING DIRECT but sure

NJ, and it was 9$ for my first non-contract entry job. Pretty good at the time.

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