Current Events > Trump HAS to be the worst President in modern history, right?

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/12/21 11:03:35 PM
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As of last week

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Bananana
01/12/21 11:04:11 PM
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in all of history, yes

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CADE FOSTER
01/12/21 11:04:34 PM
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Bananana posted...
in all of history, yes

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Umbreon
01/12/21 11:04:42 PM
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As of Charlottesville, last week just sealed it.


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Zikten
01/12/21 11:04:44 PM
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Not just modern. He IS the worst president we ever had
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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:04:51 PM
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actually a good pres, spurred the economy, put pressure on foreign entities, etc., but no one on here is gonna agree so this topic kinda worthless

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Deja Blue 03
01/12/21 11:05:07 PM
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yes

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BLAKUboy
01/12/21 11:05:09 PM
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There's no longer any argument against him being the worst period. No other President ever actively tried to start a civil war or incite terrorism on American soil.

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/12/21 11:05:10 PM
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Some would still make the argument Andrew Jackson is worse

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billcom6
01/12/21 11:05:49 PM
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You can't say that. 75 million people voted for him, it will hurt their feelings. You don't want to make them angry do you?

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BilalPowell
01/12/21 11:06:37 PM
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Too many people like him to be the worst. Nobody liked W by the end of his tenure. Republicans just meh'd him.

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/12/21 11:07:26 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Too many people like him to be the worst. Nobody liked W by the end of his tenure. Republicans just meh'd him.

Is that because Bush was worse, or because Republicans actually had standards at that point in time?

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Correct_Facts
01/12/21 11:07:58 PM
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Lathissamus posted...
actually a good pres, spurred the economy, put pressure on foreign entities, etc., but no one on here is gonna agree so this topic kinda worthless
I agree 100% Everyone listens to his rhetoric instead of actually looking at the accomplishments he's made.
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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:08:17 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Some would still make the argument Andrew Jackson is worse
Morally, yes he was a terrible person. But very instrumental in the expansion of America.

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/12/21 11:10:01 PM
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Lathissamus posted...
Morally, yes he was a terrible person. But very instrumental in the expansion of America.

Oh God

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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:10:47 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Oh God
so you disagree with history?

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Zikten
01/12/21 11:11:23 PM
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billcom6 posted...
You can't say that. 75 million people voted for him, it will hurt their feelings. You don't want to make them angry do you?

I'm actually one of them (first term)

I regret that I voted Trump in 2016
Anyone who still is on his side in 2021 is hopeless. I dont care about their feelings
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AzurexNightmare
01/12/21 11:11:42 PM
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Lathissamus posted...
actually a good pres, spurred the economy, put pressure on foreign entities, etc., but no one on here is gonna agree so this topic kinda worthless
Hey I thought you said Trump was winning.

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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:14:30 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Hey I thought you said Trump was winning.
I was wrong. It's impossible to win when every influential billionaire corporation is against him.

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BeyondWalls
01/12/21 11:15:09 PM
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Lathissamus posted...
actually a good pres, spurred the economy, put pressure on foreign entities, etc., but no one on here is gonna agree so this topic kinda worthless
You're right. No one is going to agree with this lunacy.

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BeyondWalls
01/12/21 11:17:16 PM
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DoomsSD posted...
I think its between him and Bush Jnr.
It's not even close at this point. You'd have to be delusional to think Bush is worse. There's Bush/Nixon bad and then there's Trump on a whole fucking other level.

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Orestes417
01/12/21 11:19:47 PM
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Depending on how one feels about force marching indigenous peoples to their deaths after breaking treaties or being a pro-slavery superfanboy who more or less led us into the Civil War Trump's very definitely in the bottom 3.

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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:21:18 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
Close your account, welcher
kiss my ass nerd

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dameon_reaper
01/12/21 11:22:51 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
You're right. No one is going to agree with this lunacy.

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Shadowplay
01/12/21 11:24:31 PM
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Lathissamus posted...
I was wrong. It's impossible to win when every influential billionaire corporation is against him.
Close your account

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CommonStar
01/12/21 11:24:47 PM
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In my lifetime, Bush is still the worst.
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Zikten
01/12/21 11:25:34 PM
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CommonStar posted...
In my lifetime, Bush is still the worst.

Bush was at least sane
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Correct_Facts
01/12/21 11:25:55 PM
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CommonStar posted...
In my lifetime, Bush is still the worst.
Based upon what the media or your professor told you
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Lathissamus
01/12/21 11:27:44 PM
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Correct_Facts posted...
Based upon what the media or your professor told you
this argument is a waste of your time here. CE doesnt care they will just regurgitate the things they've heard

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Orestes417
01/12/21 11:28:54 PM
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Bush the younger wasn't much worse than Bill Clinton... which isn't saying a whole lot. Bush the elder was a sneaky bastard but definitely not worse than Reagan in his lower moments.

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NinjaWarrior455
01/12/21 11:29:21 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Is that because Bush was worse, or because Republicans actually had standards at that point in time?
Republicans had no standards then just like they have none now.

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gunplagirl
01/12/21 11:31:24 PM
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DoomsSD posted...
Trump is more of a domestic threat, Bush Jnr plunged America into wars in the middle east that had no end goal in sight on a lot of false pretenses.
I mean, Trump's tried to get us into war with North Korea, still trying with Iran with what Pompeo said today, attacked long-standing allies and business partners over perceived slights (not giving America a better trade deal resulting in us raising tariffs resulting in Americans footing the bill), destroying the post office system and using cronies to ensure that even after he leaves his officials will retain their positions thus preventing any simple or fast fix to what they already have done, etc.

Oh, and that vanity project along the southern border. Nice of him to give some towns plenty of free scrap metal. :l

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/12/21 11:31:46 PM
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https://youtu.be/EejRGLy1d4Y?t=18

Thats about right

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gunplagirl
01/12/21 11:33:22 PM
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Oh. And Trump getting elected had plenty of people globally saying he and the United States are the biggest threats to the world. That was even back in 2016 before he was in office.

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Phantom_Nook
01/12/21 11:43:34 PM
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Correct_Facts posted...
Everyone listens to his rhetoric instead of actually looking at the accomplishments he's made.

I guess you could say inciting terrorists to attack Congress is an accomplishment.

I mean, it would be painfully stupid, but you can say it.
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BeyondWalls
01/12/21 11:47:03 PM
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DoomsSD posted...
Trump is more of a domestic threat, Bush Jnr plunged America into wars in the middle east that had no end goal in sight on a lot of false pretenses.
And yet more Americans have died under Trump.

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WalkingLobsters
01/12/21 11:50:19 PM
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ITT: Media Manipulation

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Orestes417
01/12/21 11:51:10 PM
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The problem with Trump is he's a walking, talking, tweeting Constitutional crisis and a figurehead for raw corruption not just in his own party.

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BeyondWalls
01/12/21 11:51:21 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
ITT: Media Manipulation
^In this post, delusion.

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Perthboy
01/12/21 11:56:29 PM
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Pre Covid he was doing rather well.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09/14/black-americans-doing-great-under-trump/

Strongest economy, highest pay for African Americans ever, lowest unemployment for minorities ever.

Thank China for ruining his legacy.

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Rathinor
01/12/21 11:57:53 PM
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I see there are three Trumpers in this topic who are butthurt and raging against reality

And Lathissamus is also a major welch. Bet his account Trump would win
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dameon_reaper
01/12/21 11:59:14 PM
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Rathinor posted...
I see there are three Trumpers in this topic who are butthurt and raging against reality

And Lathissamus is also a major welch. Bet his account Trump would win

He's a Trump supporter, did you think he would keep his word?
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Orestes417
01/12/21 11:59:36 PM
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Giving Trump credit for the economy Obama left him is sorta like blaming Bush for the economic bubble that Clinton helped create bursting. Shortsighted and lacking in basic understanding of how effects ripple out from their causes.

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rideshort
01/13/21 12:03:05 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
Morally, yes he was a terrible person. But very instrumental in the expansion of America.

And by what means did he do to expand America?

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IMNOTRAGED
01/13/21 12:06:16 AM
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Perthboy posted...
Pre Covid he was doing rather well.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09/14/black-americans-doing-great-under-trump/

Strongest economy, highest pay for African Americans ever, lowest unemployment for minorities ever.

Thank China for ruining his legacy.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/new-congressional-study-finds-little-economic-benefit-2017-tax-cuts

A new Congressional Research Service report finds that the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act had little measurable effect on the overall US economy in 2018. And, no, the tax cuts didnt come remotely close to paying for themselves by turbocharging the economy as President Trump repeatedly promised. This was a surprise to few, since most independent analysts predicted more than a year ago that the law would have little economic impact.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-06-07/ap-fact-check-trump-exaggerations-on-blacks-economic-gains

Most of the progress came when Barack Obama was president: Black unemployment dropped from a recession high of 16.8% in March 2010 to 7.8% in January 2017. Improvement continued under Trump until the pandemic. Black unemployment reached 16.8% in May, compared with 13.3% for the overall population.
Not all economic measures improved for African Americans under Trump before the pandemic. A black household earned median income of $41,361 in 2018, the latest data available. Thats below a 2000 peak of $43,380, according to the Census Bureau.
More broadly, there were multiple signs before the pandemic that the racial wealth gap had been worsening.

Can we stop with this meme, the economy for the working class was trash under Trump (and has been for a couple of decades). Employment numbers and the stock market aren't good indicators of how most people are doing.

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coh
01/13/21 12:06:39 AM
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FDR literally put Americans in camps. His policies were also horrible
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