Poll of the Day > What dictates reality?

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SunWuKung420
01/03/21 11:01:08 PM
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What you're told?
Chemical reactions?
Mindsets?
Connections to a system greater than a single person's understanding?

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StelioKontos
01/03/21 11:05:38 PM
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Everyones reality is different. Two people can experience the exact same thing and come away with complete opposite takes. So in a sense, reality is what you make of it. You are actually in control and understanding and utilizing that can be rather powerful.

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Zeus
01/03/21 11:07:25 PM
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Reality is objective, the perception of that reality is what's subjective. Whether or not you perceive a wall as being there, you're not going to be able to walk through it. Beyond that, there are a lot of possible facets to the question. For something like vision and hearing, that's clearly tied to biological functions. For interpretation of events (and even an arrangement of events), that tends to be absurdly open-ended. There's no unbiased way to report history, because so much of it is subjective ranging from what people choose to focus on (and what gets omitted) to how the events are framed, etc.

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Ogurisama
01/03/21 11:13:13 PM
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SunWuKung420
01/03/21 11:31:51 PM
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Do to follow what you're told?

Do you decide what is right?

Do you control your personal energy?

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FatalAccident
01/03/21 11:34:11 PM
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Sunny do u genuinely believe the things you say or do you think it makes you seem more enlightened

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SunWuKung420
01/03/21 11:38:12 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
Sunny do u genuinely believe the things you say or do you think it makes you seem more enlightened
I don't seem to be enlightened. I know I was gifted with it since birth. Others just feel threatened.

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FatalAccident
01/03/21 11:39:21 PM
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Threatened by what?

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SunWuKung420
01/03/21 11:42:36 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
Threatened by what?
That what they are told is the truth is wrong.

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FatalAccident
01/03/21 11:48:01 PM
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truth about what in particular

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JigsawTDC
01/04/21 2:09:17 AM
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I've already tried. He's not interested in actual philosophical dialogue. He's more interested in putting himself on a pedestal and petting his ego than actually pursuing any sort of attempt at enlightenment. I think he genuinely believes most of the shit he says.

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OhhhJa
01/04/21 2:20:05 AM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I've already tried. He's not interested in actual philosophical dialogue. He's more interested in putting himself on a pedestal and petting his ego than actually pursuing any sort of attempt at enlightenment. I think he genuinely believes most of the shit he says.
Idk topics like this really make me think he is actually just trolling
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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 6:52:55 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
truth about what in particular

Do you think the human perspective is as useful?

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kind9
01/04/21 7:01:23 AM
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Sunny must be one of those people who thinks "truth" and "belief" are synonyms.

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 7:34:25 AM
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kind9 posted...
Sunny must be one of those people who thinks "truth" and "belief" are synonyms.
So you think the human perspective is correct?

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kind9
01/04/21 7:45:26 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
So you think the human perspective is correct?
I don't know what this means. I think Zeus already nailed it when he said that reality is objective, but our perception of it is subjective. Truth, by definition, is demonstrable. If it's not demonstrable then maybe don't call it "truth".

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 7:48:42 AM
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kind9 posted...
I don't know what this means. I think Zeus already nailed it when he said that reality is objective, but our perception of it is subjective. Truth, by definition, is demonstrable. If it's not demonstrable then maybe don't call it "truth".
So you think the human truth isn't rooted is human belief? Also, you think zues nailed it, lol.

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kind9
01/04/21 7:56:23 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
So you think the human truth isn't rooted is human belief?
All I'm saying is you can't claim to know something as true until it is demonstrated to be so. This is irrespective of anyone's belief.

SunWuKung420 posted...
Also, you think zues nailed it, lol.
I know, it's surprising.

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 8:13:30 AM
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kind9 posted...
All I'm saying is you can't claim to know something as true until it is demonstrated to be so. This is irrespective of anyone's belief.
But from our perspective, is that truth actually true?

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kind9
01/04/21 8:41:33 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
But from our perspective, is that truth actually true?
Do you mean the perspective of ignorance? William Lane Craig champions this perspective.

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 8:58:32 AM
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kind9 posted...
Do you mean the perspective of ignorance? William Lane Craig champions this perspective.
All human perspectives that assume our viewpoint is correct.

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kind9
01/04/21 9:12:40 AM
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Man, do you not know what demonstrable means? If you're just assuming your viewpoint is correct then there's a good chance you're wrong.

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 9:19:56 AM
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kind9 posted...
Man, do you not know what demonstrable means? If you're just assuming your viewpoint is correct then there's a good chance you're wrong.
Most humans assume we are right.

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kind9
01/04/21 9:36:50 AM
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Yeah, most humans believe a lot of bullshit. But knowledge is justified true belief.

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TheWitchMorgana
01/04/21 10:31:07 AM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I've already tried. He's not interested in actual philosophical dialogue. He's more interested in putting himself on a pedestal and petting his ego than actually pursuing any sort of attempt at enlightenment. I think he genuinely believes most of the shit he says.

i think he just smokes way too much weed tbh (and i'm a stoner)

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adjl
01/04/21 11:20:39 AM
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My butt.

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JigsawTDC
01/04/21 3:40:23 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
i think he just smokes way too much weed tbh (and i'm a stoner)

I smoke a lot of weed too, and I don't think that's inherently the problem. Plenty of intelligent people smoke lots of weed. The problem more lies in that he doesn't think critically about what amounts to "stoner thoughts" and just accepts those thoughts as genuine insight.
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GunslingerGunsl
01/04/21 5:46:18 PM
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Zeus posted...
Reality is objective, the perception of that reality is what's subjective. Whether or not you perceive a wall as being there, you're not going to be able to walk through it. Beyond that, there are a lot of possible facets to the question. For something like vision and hearing, that's clearly tied to biological functions. For interpretation of events (and even an arrangement of events), that tends to be absurdly open-ended. There's no unbiased way to report history, because so much of it is subjective ranging from what people choose to focus on (and what gets omitted) to how the events are framed, etc.
I.... agree with Zeus.
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GetMagnaCarter
01/04/21 5:48:55 PM
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I think therefore I am
everything else is open to question

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Shadowbird_RH
01/04/21 6:04:50 PM
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GetMagnaCarter posted...
I think therefore I am
everything else is open to question
A tree does not think, yet it clearly does exist. The enemy creatures in our video games think via AI, but clearly do not exist. Therefor thought is not a determining factor for existence. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Of course it does; sound is more than the brain's interpretation of atmospheric vibrations, and to believe that existence is reliant upon human observation is an argument of unequaled shallowness and the ultimate vanity.

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SunWuKung420
01/04/21 11:37:46 PM
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What controls all the electrons, protons and neutrons that make everything? Us, things, air, space. What made us?

I'm well versed in the human belief of their biochemical explanation of biological beings. But what system of creation created those processes?

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