Current Events > WaPo has a recording of Trump's call with Georgia's Secretary of State

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Antifar
01/03/21 1:23:38 PM
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https://wapo.st/2LkDtz6

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking a big risk.

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his offices general counsel rejected his assertions, explaining that Trump is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Bidens 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

Trump dismissed their arguments.

The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry, he said. And theres nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that youve recalculated.

Raffensperger responded: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.

At another point, Trump said: So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.

The rambling, at times incoherent conversation, offered a remarkable glimpse of how consumed and desperate the president remains about his loss, unwilling or unable to let the matter go and still believing he can reverse the results in enough battleground states to remain in office.

Theres no way I lost Georgia, Trump said, a phrase he repeated again and again on the call. Theres no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Several of his allies were on the line as he spoke, including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and conservative lawyer Cleta Mitchell, a prominent GOP lawyer whose involvement with Trumps efforts had not been previously known.

In a statement, Mitchell said that Raffenspergers office has made many statements over the past two months that are simply not correct and everyone involved with the efforts on behalf of the Presidents election challenge has said the same thing: show us your records on which you rely to make these statements that our numbers are wrong.
The White House, the Trump campaign and Meadows did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Raffenspergers office declined to comment.

On Sunday, Trump tweeted that he had spoken to Raffensperger, saying the secretary of state was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ballots under table scam, ballot destruction, out of state voters, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!

Raffensperger responded with his own tweet: Respectfully, President Trump: What youre saying is not true.

The pressure Trump put on Raffensperger is the latest example of his attempt to subvert the outcome of the Nov. 3 election through personal outreach to state Republican officials. He previously invited Michigan Republican state leaders to the White House, pressured Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) in a call to try to replace that states electors and asked the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives to help reverse his loss in that state.

His call to Raffensperger came as scores of Republicans have pledged to challenge the Electoral Colleges vote for Biden when Congress convenes for a joint session on Wednesday. Republicans do not have the votes to successfully thwart Bidens victory, but Trump has urged supporters to travel to Washington to protest the outcome, and state and federal officials are already bracing for clashes outside the Capitol.

During their conversation, Trump issued a vague threat to both Raffensperger and Ryan Germany, the secretary of states legal counsel, suggesting that if they dont find that thousands of ballots in Fulton County have been illegally destroyed to block investigators an allegation for which there is no evidence they would be subject to criminal liability.

Thats a criminal offense, he said. And you cant let that happen. Thats a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer."

Trump also told Raffensperger that failure to act by Tuesday would jeopardize the political fortunes of David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, Georgias two Republican senators whose fate in that days runoff elections will determine control of the U.S. Senate.

Trump said he plans to talk about the fraud on Monday, when he is scheduled to lead an election eve rally in Dalton, Ga. a message that could further muddle the efforts of Republicans to get their voters out.

You have a big election coming up and because of what youve done to the president -- you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam, Trump said. Because of what youve done to the president, a lot of people arent going out to vote, and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And theyre going to vote. And you would be respected, really respected, if this can be straightened out before the election.


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VipaGTS
01/03/21 1:24:26 PM
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jfc. put this idiot in jail already

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E32005
01/03/21 1:25:21 PM
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literally illegal

but nothing will happen to traitor in chief

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Doom_Art
01/03/21 1:25:27 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
jfc. put this idiot in jail already
Jail is a bit of a lighter punishment than what I'd like to see.

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ScazarMeltex
01/03/21 1:25:30 PM
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If this recording exists it needs to be broadcast everywhere.

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Medussa
01/03/21 1:26:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
At another point, Trump said: So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.

this needs to be played on every newscast from now until he's arrested for it.

holy. fucking. shitballs.

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Oshawottownage
01/03/21 1:26:27 PM
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In a sane country Trump would be on trial and found guilty of sedition for this.


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legendary_zell
01/03/21 1:26:42 PM
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Blatant attempt to overturn democracy caught on tape and yet his support won't decrease by an ounce. He really had his finger on the pulse of this country when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes.

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Hexenherz
01/03/21 1:26:52 PM
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Are any of you actually surprised at this point in time?

And the sad reality is, millions of people don't give a shit. Because it's Trump. He's god's gift to man and can do no wrong and he deserves the election even if he didn't win the votes.

That's the reality we're dealing with.

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Medussa
01/03/21 1:27:45 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Are any of you actually surprised at this point in time?

only that someone was smart enough to record it.

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Frolex
01/03/21 1:29:16 PM
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Antifar posted...
And theres nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that youve recalculated.

lmao, for someone who had mob connections you'd think he'd be better at the criminal euphemisms

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Antifar
01/03/21 1:30:30 PM
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Frolex posted...
lmao, for someone who had mob connections you'd think he'd be better at the criminal euphemisms
"I would like to do one large crime, please"

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ThePieReborn
01/03/21 1:32:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
"I would like to do one large crime, please"
"For an extra dollar you can supersize that crime."

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hockeybub89
01/03/21 1:33:06 PM
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So not even Trump believes he's been cheated. He definitely wants to cheat back though

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Prestoff
01/03/21 1:34:54 PM
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This is illegal right?

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harley2280
01/03/21 1:35:49 PM
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Holy fuck. He literally told them to "find" just enough votes to flip that state. To support this type of behavior goes against every single thing this country stands for.
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Shadowplay
01/03/21 1:36:00 PM
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Antifar posted...
At another point, Trump said: So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.
This man is so stupid that he thinks that this would not look suspicious at all.

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BobLoblaw_
01/03/21 1:36:03 PM
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Prestoff posted...
This is illegal right?
Yes

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darkbuster
01/03/21 1:37:04 PM
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I just can't get over how America is under threat from an openly casual coup attempt from some wannabe mafioso, 'cause those implied threats really come off as some Godfather level stuff.

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lilORANG
01/03/21 1:37:38 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...

Yes

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jpenny2
01/03/21 1:39:42 PM
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This asshole needs to be in jail.

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DarkRoast
01/03/21 1:43:20 PM
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The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry, he said. And theres nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that youve recalculated.

Isn't that straight up illegal

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billcom6
01/03/21 1:43:29 PM
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Finally proof of election fraud.

Somehow this hasn't been posted on r/conservative yet...

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Ps2Twilight
01/03/21 1:44:37 PM
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CM_Ponch
01/03/21 1:44:51 PM
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He needs to release the audio

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SPE
01/03/21 1:47:22 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Blatant attempt to overturn democracy caught on tape and yet his support won't decrease by an ounce. He really had his finger on the pulse of this country when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes.

who would have thought race would be so important for his supporters?


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monkmith
01/03/21 1:48:55 PM
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Prestoff posted...
This is illegal right?

though this only counts if the president has a little R next to their name...

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kyujo
01/03/21 1:49:01 PM
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lock him up

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Kingbuffet
01/03/21 1:50:06 PM
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Not a fan of Trump but Jeff Bezos having this much power is also scary, but then again, watching two evil people fighting each other is fun to watch as well
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billcom6
01/03/21 1:50:42 PM
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Dude really trying to go out like Mussolini.

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SPE
01/03/21 1:50:55 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
Not a fan of Trump but Jeff Bezos having this much power is also scary, but then again, watching two evil people fighting each other is fun to watch as well

the fuck does bezos have to do with this? Worst deflection ever

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Phantom_Nook
01/03/21 1:51:12 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Somehow this hasn't been posted on r/conservative yet...
maybe it's been posted five times and been deleted every time. because they are a bastion of free speech, ya heard?

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hockeybub89
01/03/21 1:51:52 PM
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All I have to say is that the Deep State is really bad at controlling this country from the shadows if this is the kind of shit they allow. I didn't vote for this.

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harley2280
01/03/21 1:52:18 PM
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SPE posted...
Kingbuffet posted...
Not a fan of Trump but Jeff Bezos having this much power is also scary, but then again, watching two evil people fighting each other is fun to watch as well

the fuck does bezos have to do with this? Worst deflection ever

Because Bezo's own Wapo I'm guessing. It's a terrible deflection though and doesn't even make sense in this context.
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CADE FOSTER
01/03/21 1:52:19 PM
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under the jail fuck him
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GallisOTK
01/03/21 1:52:42 PM
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Prestoff posted...
This is illegal right?

Extremely. But the Idiot In Chief probably won't face nearly the amount of consequences he deserves.
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Kingbuffet
01/03/21 1:52:46 PM
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SPE posted...
the fuck does bezos have to do with this? Worst deflection ever

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legendary_zell
01/03/21 1:53:09 PM
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SPE posted...
who would have thought race would be so important for his supporters?

They're all just economically anxious.

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/03/21 1:54:07 PM
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Deep fake, um, yeah

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Kingbuffet
01/03/21 1:54:18 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Because Bezo's own Wapo I'm guessing. It's a terrible deflection though and doesn't even make sense in this context.

This isnt the first time Trump and Bezos have used their power subvert one another
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Medussa
01/03/21 1:54:29 PM
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the fact that we literally have people asking if this is illegal shows just how completely fucked we are as a country.

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hockeybub89
01/03/21 1:55:55 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
Bezos owns Washington Post dont be ignorant
So billionaires that disagree with the President shouldn't own media companies?

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harley2280
01/03/21 1:56:53 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
harley2280 posted...
Because Bezo's own Wapo I'm guessing. It's a terrible deflection though and doesn't even make sense in this context.

This isnt the first time Trump and Bezos have used their power subvert one another

Stop with the whataboutism it's just sad at this fucking point.

A sitting President asked a secretary of state to commit election fraud.
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Prestoff
01/03/21 1:57:24 PM
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https://youtu.be/o3hrN0cP58Y

Washington Post just leaked it.

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Strider102
01/03/21 1:58:14 PM
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Obama will get blamed for this somehow, maybe Hillary too.

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_BIueMonk
01/03/21 1:58:15 PM
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harley2280 posted...
A sitting President asked a secretary of state to commit election fraud.
well what about when obama asked for dijon mustard?

HUH? WHAT ABOUT THAT?

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monkmith
01/03/21 1:58:33 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
This isnt the first time Trump and Bezos have used their power subvert one another
whats your thoughts on the pentagon papers? was that just another instance of "big news unfairly subverting the president with truth".

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Kingbuffet
01/03/21 1:58:35 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So billionaires that disagree with the President shouldn't own media companies?

Where did I say that? Im saying Bezos shouldnt use his money to influence politics. If he owns Washington Posts then he cant be fighting with the President

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DarkRoast
01/03/21 1:59:13 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
Bezos owns Washington Post dont be ignorant

Bezos isn't the one speaking on the phone call

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