Poll of the Day > What do you think of this parenting moment?

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MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 12:28:56 PM #1:	John Roderick (frontman of John Roderick and the Long Winters, and podcast host) posted this on Twitter and there's some debate about if this was a good parenting moment or not. It's a bit of a long read, so I'll copy the whole story below. To see comments, check out the tweet. https://twitter.com/johnroderick/status/1345508384011816960?s=21 Who remembers learning to use a can opener? They are weirdly not intuitive. So, yesterday my daughter (9) was hungry and I was doing a jigsaw puzzle so I said over my shoulder make some baked beans. She said, How? like all kids do when they want YOU to do it, so I said, Open a can and put it in pot. She brought me the can and said Open it how?" I said, The little device is designed to do one thing: open cans. Study the parts, study the can, figure out what the can-opener inventor was thinking when they tried to solve this problem. (The can opener is also a bottle opener, but I explained that part wasnt relevant.) I went back to my jigsaw puzzle. She was next to me grunting and groaning trying to get the thing. I should say that spatial orientation, process visualization and order of operation are not things she... intuits. I knew this would be a challenge. But it was a rainy weekend. Eventually she collapsed in a frustrated heap. I said, Explain the parts. She said, This little wheel is meant to cut, these gears turn the wheel when you spin the handle. This other wheel looks like a gear but isnt. She couldnt figure out the clamping step, a key element! I said, The tool is made to be pleasing but it doesnt have any superfluous qualities. Everything that moves does so for a reason. She said, I hate you. Im sure she believes that she does. I said, You understand everything except how the tool addresses the can. She sighed. At this point she said, I dont want baked beans and marched off. Apocalypse Dad went into full The Road Mode! Sweetheart, neither of us will eat another bite today until we get into this can of beans. She screamed AUGH! like Lucy Van Pelt. She read a book for awhile. Soon she was back at the can. The top was all dented now, the lip of the can practically serrated from failed attempts. We studied the tool some more. She really wanted it to be oriented up and down or across the top of the can. The sideways orientation is very counterintuitive. She was fixated on orienting the tool in a few configurations and couldnt imagine other possibilities. I compared the can opener to other tools. By now we were working on anger-management and perseverance too. She suggested she open the can with a hammer. There were tears. I told her stories of some of the great cans Id opened over the years. She rolled her eyes. We talked about industrial design and what a funny little device the opener is. I showed how I open cans with a Buck knife. I rhapsodized about cold Spaghetti-Os straight from the can! Eventually she had it all figured out. She had the placement of the tool, she could turn the handle and the can would spin (we were down on the floor by this point), but the kachunk of puncturing the lid still eluded us. Wed been at it for SIX HOURS on and off. We were hungry. Id been tempted many times along the way to guide her hand. I wanted her to experience the magnificence of the can opener SO MUCH I couldnt stand the suspense. Neither of us likes baked beans that muchthe cupboards are bareso it seemed like a paltry reward for this work. Id forgotten how finicky the tool really is, particularly when it comes to the puncture. She had it all lined up! But the cutting wheel is a little wobbly (by design) and you have to really get on top of it to clamp it down. You know the feeling? You can misfire the damn thing! Id forgotten how finicky the tool really is, particularly when it comes to the puncture. She had it all lined up! But the cutting wheel is a little wobbly (by design) and you have to really get on top of it to clamp it down. You know the feeling? You can misfire the damn thing! She felt the tool click over the lip of the can. I saw it in her hands. By this point shed developed a little ritual of addressing the tool to the can: starting with it on a vertical axis and rotating it to the horizontal while clamping down in a single motion. A choreography. She looked at me expectantly, excitedly. After six hours of trying you dont want to express too much hope. Was this another blind alley? The can had been through hell, label ripped off, dented, sharpened and burred, a veteran of a thousand psychic wars. She knew, though. She set up again, carefully, and brought the Swing-a-Way to bear on the can of S&W baked beans with the meticulousness of Roger Moore extracting a detonator from an ICBM in The Spy Who Loved Me. A soft pop resounded in the room, so different from all the other sounds wed made. She set up again, carefully, and brought the Swing-a-Way to bear on the can of S&W baked beans with the meticulousness of Roger Moore extracting a detonator from an ICBM in The Spy Who Loved Me. A soft pop resounded in the room, so different from all the other sounds wed made. She knew this was a commonplace task and a common tool but also that this was serious business. She knows her dad, and the stock I put in these things. A more mechanically inclined kid might have figured it out in minutes. She factored the scale, but was rightfully proud. Im proud of her too. I know Im infuriating. I know this is parenting theater in some ways. I suffer from a lack of perseverance myself, and like all parents throughout history Im trying to correct my own mistakes in the way I educate my child. She sees through this. The Swing-a-Way can opener is a little voodoo doll for us now. It will reappear as an allegory many more times in her life, you can be sure. She knows this too. But this is an allegory of triumph. I wish I had more of those for myself. I wish I had more stories like this. The only problem is now she wants to open every fucking can in the house! What do you think? --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949053716] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>John Roderick (frontman of John Roderick and the Long Winters, and podcast host) posted this on Twitter and there's some debate about if this was a good parenting moment or not. It's a bit of a long read, so I'll copy the whole story below. To see comments, check out the tweet. https://twitter.com/johnroderick/status/1345508384011816960?s=21 <quote>Who remembers learning to use a can opener? They are weirdly not intuitive. So, yesterday my daughter (9) was hungry and I was doing a jigsaw puzzle so I said over my shoulder make some baked beans. She said, How? like all kids do when they want YOU to do it, so I said, Open a can and put it in pot. She brought me the can and said Open it how?" I said, The little device is designed to do one thing: open cans. Study the parts, study the can, figure out what the can-opener inventor was thinking when they tried to solve this problem. (The can opener is also a bottle opener, but I explained that part wasnt relevant.) I went back to my jigsaw puzzle. She was next to me grunting and groaning trying to get the thing. I should say that spatial orientation, process visualization and order of operation are not things she... intuits. I knew this would be a challenge. But it was a rainy weekend. Eventually she collapsed in a frustrated heap. I said, Explain the parts. She said, This little wheel is meant to cut, these gears turn the wheel when you spin the handle. This other wheel looks like a gear but isnt. She couldnt figure out the clamping step, a key element! I said, The tool is made to be pleasing but it doesnt have any superfluous qualities. Everything that moves does so for a reason. She said, I hate you. Im sure she believes that she does. I said, You understand everything except how the tool addresses the can. She sighed. At this point she said, I dont want baked beans and marched off. Apocalypse Dad went into full The Road Mode! Sweetheart, neither of us will eat another bite today until we get into this can of beans. She screamed AUGH! like Lucy Van Pelt. She read a book for awhile. Soon she was back at the can. The top was all dented now, the lip of the can practically serrated from failed attempts. We studied the tool some more. She really wanted it to be oriented up and down or across the top of the can. The sideways orientation is very counterintuitive. She was fixated on orienting the tool in a few configurations and couldnt imagine other possibilities. I compared the can opener to other tools. By now we were working on anger-management and perseverance too. She suggested she open the can with a hammer. There were tears. I told her stories of some of the great cans Id opened over the years. She rolled her eyes. We talked about industrial design and what a funny little device the opener is. I showed how I open cans with a Buck knife. I rhapsodized about cold Spaghetti-Os straight from the can! Eventually she had it all figured out. She had the placement of the tool, she could turn the handle and the can would spin (we were down on the floor by this point), but the kachunk of puncturing the lid still eluded us. Wed been at it for SIX HOURS on and off. We were hungry. Id been tempted many times along the way to guide her hand. I wanted her to experience the magnificence of the can opener SO MUCH I couldnt stand the suspense. Neither of us likes baked beans that muchthe cupboards are bareso it seemed like a paltry reward for this work. Id forgotten how finicky the tool really is, particularly when it comes to the puncture. She had it all lined up! But the cutting wheel is a little wobbly (by design) and you have to really get on top of it to clamp it down. You know the feeling? You can misfire the damn thing! Id forgotten how finicky the tool really is, particularly when it comes to the puncture. She had it all lined up! But the cutting wheel is a little wobbly (by design) and you have to really get on top of it to clamp it down. You know the feeling? You can misfire the damn thing! She felt the tool click over the lip of the can. I saw it in her hands. By this point shed developed a little ritual of addressing the tool to the can: starting with it on a vertical axis and rotating it to the horizontal while clamping down in a single motion. A choreography. She looked at me expectantly, excitedly. After six hours of trying you dont want to express too much hope. Was this another blind alley? The can had been through hell, label ripped off, dented, sharpened and burred, a veteran of a thousand psychic wars. She knew, though. She set up again, carefully, and brought the Swing-a-Way to bear on the can of S&W baked beans with the meticulousness of Roger Moore extracting a detonator from an ICBM in The Spy Who Loved Me. A soft pop resounded in the room, so different from all the other sounds wed made. She set up again, carefully, and brought the Swing-a-Way to bear on the can of S&W baked beans with the meticulousness of Roger Moore extracting a detonator from an ICBM in The Spy Who Loved Me. A soft pop resounded in the room, so different from all the other sounds wed made. She knew this was a commonplace task and a common tool but also that this was serious business. She knows her dad, and the stock I put in these things. A more mechanically inclined kid might have figured it out in minutes. She factored the scale, but was rightfully proud. Im proud of her too. I know Im infuriating. I know this is parenting theater in some ways. I suffer from a lack of perseverance myself, and like all parents throughout history Im trying to correct my own mistakes in the way I educate my child. She sees through this. The Swing-a-Way can opener is a little voodoo doll for us now. It will reappear as an allegory many more times in her life, you can be sure. She knows this too. But this is an allegory of triumph. I wish I had more of those for myself. I wish I had more stories like this. The only problem is now she wants to open every fucking can in the house!</quote> What do you think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 01/03/21 1:31:13 PM #2:	i think it would've been easier to click through to the thread than try to read your massive block of text --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:949055771] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>i think it would've been easier to click through to the thread than try to read your massive block of text </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darcandkharg31 01/03/21 1:35:48 PM #3:	Sounds like a condescending jack ass, you're there to teach your kids, not throw shit and them and judge them when they can't figure it out, plus it's a 9 year old girl, of course she's gonna have trouble clamping down, it's not the easiest thing for a child. --- The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me! If you take 110% of what I say seriously then you're gonna have a bad time. <cite>darcandkharg31 posted [p:949055968] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a condescending jack ass, you're there to teach your kids, not throw shit and them and judge them when they can't figure it out, plus it's a 9 year old girl, of course she's gonna have trouble clamping down, it's not the easiest thing for a child. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 01/03/21 1:37:11 PM #4:	but yeah, honestly sounds like he needed to make a show of this to hide his embarrassment that he never taught his kid how to use a can opener. i remember my parents trying to get me to learn how to tie shoes in a very similar way and it only made me frustrated and discouraged, it didn't help me learn --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:949056014] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>but yeah, honestly sounds like he needed to make a show of this to hide his embarrassment that he never taught his kid how to use a can opener. i remember my parents trying to get me to learn how to tie shoes in a very similar way and it only made me frustrated and discouraged, it didn't help me learn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 01/03/21 1:45:26 PM #5:	Literally everyone was dissing this guy earlier lmao. Why even make your kid struggle like this for 6 hours? Is figuring out how to use a can opener THAT important that you cant just show the kid yourself? --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:949056300] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Literally everyone was dissing this guy earlier lmao. Why even make your kid struggle like this for 6 hours? Is figuring out how to use a can opener THAT important that you cant just show the kid yourself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 1:47:02 PM #6:	tldr --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949056355] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>tldr </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilentSeph 01/03/21 1:47:04 PM #7:	She is 9 years old, she's hungry, and she didn't eat for 6 hours after saying she's hungry all the while he's making a show of her getting frustrated and crying for very little payoff in the end (learning how to use a can opener). Plus he says 'superfluous' in normal sentences to a 9 year old. He sounds fucking annoying --- Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious. <cite>SilentSeph posted [p:949056356] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>She is 9 years old, she's hungry, and she didn't eat for 6 hours after saying she's hungry all the while he's making a show of her getting frustrated and crying for very little payoff in the end (learning how to use a can opener). Plus he says 'superfluous' in normal sentences to a 9 year old. He sounds fucking annoying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 1:47:51 PM #8:	jk I read it and I hate parenting like this. just fucking show me, I can learn quicker. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949056373] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>jk I read it and I hate parenting like this. just fucking show me, I can learn quicker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 1:50:28 PM #9:	I've dealt with bosses that say shit like "I'm just gonna let you figure out out". No champ. Show me. I'll learn it in 5 seconds instead of having a confusing 5 minutes. Cheers. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949056464] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I've dealt with bosses that say shit like "I'm just gonna let you figure out out". No champ. Show me. I'll learn it in 5 seconds instead of having a confusing 5 minutes. Cheers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 01/03/21 1:53:44 PM #10:	This guy only has a Twitter verified check mark because he played keyboard with the people who made Flagpole Sitta, and not even for their whole run. For like, maybe a few months. And he thinks hes hot shit --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:949056598] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>This guy only has a Twitter verified check mark because he played keyboard with the people who made Flagpole Sitta, and not even for their whole run. For like, maybe a few months. And he thinks hes hot shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 1:54:06 PM #11:	I also think he's a fool for only engaging the most extreme side of those arguing against him on Twitter. Middle aged people do that constantly and think it literally matters. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949056611] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I also think he's a fool for only engaging the most extreme side of those arguing against him on Twitter. Middle aged people do that constantly and think it literally matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 01/03/21 1:56:02 PM #12:	Did this kid never see a can opener before? At nearly 10? <cite>dedbus posted [p:949056677] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Did this kid never see a can opener before? At nearly 10? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 01/03/21 1:57:07 PM #13:	some 9 year olds probably know how to use a can opener but Im sure plenty more dont so Im not sure what point this dad is even trying to make, its understandable that a 9 year old might not know how to fix herself some baked beans, maybe put your phone down and teach her without making her feel like crap about it --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:949056713] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>some 9 year olds probably know how to use a can opener but Im sure plenty more dont so Im not sure what point this dad is even trying to make, its understandable that a 9 year old might not know how to fix herself some baked beans, maybe put your phone down and teach her without making her feel like crap about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/03/21 1:59:18 PM #14:	MrMelodramatic posted... The only problem is now she wants to open every fucking can in the house! I honestly thought the story was going to end with him coming home to every can in the house opened already... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:949056802] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>MrMelodramatic posted...</cite> <quote>The only problem is now she wants to open every fucking can in the house!</quote> I honestly thought the story was going to end with him coming home to every can in the house opened already...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 01/03/21 2:02:04 PM #15:	If that kid opened every single cam and spilled it all over the ground, I honestly wouldnt blame her --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:949056901] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>If that kid opened every single cam and spilled it all over the ground, I honestly wouldnt blame her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 01/03/21 2:10:18 PM #16:	MrMelodramatic posted... --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:949057219] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>MrMelodramatic posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 01/03/21 2:16:29 PM #17:	I've seen a lot of adults fail at using my can opener. But it's one of those weird kind that undo the seam instead of cutting the top. It doesn't clamp onto the can, either, it has only a single handle. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:949057433] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I've seen a lot of adults fail at using my can opener. But it's one of those weird kind that undo the seam instead of cutting the top. It doesn't clamp onto the can, either, it has only a single handle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 2:16:32 PM #18:	TheWitchMorgana posted... i think it would've been easier to click through to the thread than try to read your massive block of text Well tbf I did provide the link to the tweet --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949057434] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>i think it would've been easier to click through to the thread than try to read your massive block of text</quote>Well tbf I did provide the link to the tweet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/03/21 2:21:35 PM #19:	@captpackrat Can you send me a video of that thing being used? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:949057602] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>@captpackrat Can you send me a video of that thing being used?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 2:29:25 PM #20:	dedbus posted... Did this kid never see a can opener before? At nearly 10? another point against this chump --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949057920] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>dedbus posted... </cite> <quote>Did this kid never see a can opener before? At nearly 10?</quote>another point against this chump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 01/03/21 2:37:51 PM #22:	tbh I wouldn't give a 9 year old girl baked beans as a meal unless I was a cheap fuckwit that didn't care to take basic responsibility. Sounds like a failure of a human being raising a future failure of a human being. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:949058227] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>tbh I wouldn't give a 9 year old girl baked beans as a meal unless I was a cheap fuckwit that didn't care to take basic responsibility. Sounds like a failure of a human being raising a future failure of a human being. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
grimhilde00 01/03/21 2:42:17 PM #23:	I understand there's value in teaching kids how shit works (but that involves _teaching_) and also letting them figure stuff out on their own but this was way too far and this guy sounds insufferable --- aka kriemhilde00 <cite>grimhilde00 posted [p:949058368] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I understand there's value in teaching kids how shit works (but that involves _teaching_) and also letting them figure stuff out on their own but this was way too far and this guy sounds insufferable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 01/03/21 2:45:45 PM #24:	Dude seems like he's more interested in posting an "inspiring" story for his Twitter followers than actually being a good father. This whole post is him ego tripping and I feel bad for the kid that has to deal with this asshole. <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:949058492] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Dude seems like he's more interested in posting an "inspiring" story for his Twitter followers than actually being a good father. This whole post is him ego tripping and I feel bad for the kid that has to deal with this asshole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/03/21 2:51:34 PM #25:	Judgmenl posted... tbh I wouldn't give a 9 year old girl baked beans as a meal unless I was a cheap fuckwit that didn't care to take basic responsibility. Sounds like a failure of a human being raising a future failure of a human being. It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:949058678] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>tbh I wouldn't give a 9 year old girl baked beans as a meal unless I was a cheap fuckwit that didn't care to take basic responsibility. Sounds like a failure of a human being raising a future failure of a human being.</quote> It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 01/03/21 2:58:44 PM #26:	LinkPizza posted... @captpackrat Can you send me a video of that thing being used? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXQgyDvr-mQ --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:949058919] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>@captpackrat Can you send me a video of that thing being used?</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXQgyDvr-mQ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 01/03/21 3:00:29 PM #27:	LinkPizza posted... It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life... He literally says this went on for six hours in the story. That is way more than just "snack time" and a reflection of poor parenting. We don't need to know their whole life to judge this particular instance. <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:949058977] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life...</quote> He literally says this went on for six hours in the story. That is way more than just "snack time" and a reflection of poor parenting. We don't need to know their whole life to judge this particular instance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 01/03/21 3:01:30 PM #28:	LinkPizza posted... It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life... Its like 30 posts, and he specified that the kid was hungry when this started, and didnt eat at all in the 6 hour period. Im sorry man, but why are you always like this? I genuinely feel like you spend way too much time trying to half-ass being a devils advocate. If the cupboards are bare, thats an immediate red flag. They had no food and he didnt let his daughter eat ANYTHING? Reading through that thread should have alarm bells instantly be going off in your head. --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:949059015] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>It also could have been a snack at the time. Maybe it was between lunch and dinner and he didn't make dinner yet. Not to mention, he did say the cupboards were bare. So, maybe they hadn't gone shopping yet. And it was just the weekend. Not everyone needs to have a homecooked meal all the time. And it one twitter post. This doesn't really give that much insight on their whole life...</quote>Its like 30 posts, and he specified that the kid was hungry when this started, and didnt eat at all in the 6 hour period. Im sorry man, but why are you always like this? I genuinely feel like you spend way too much time trying to half-ass being a devils advocate. If the cupboards are bare, thats an immediate red flag. They had no food and he didnt let his daughter eat ANYTHING? Reading through that thread should have alarm bells instantly be going off in your head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/03/21 3:02:30 PM #29:	Thanks. And that's neat. I want one now... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:949059048] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Thanks. And that's neat. I want one now...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 01/03/21 3:05:52 PM #30:	I wouldn't own a regular can opener now. The one I have makes a perfectly smooth edge, you can put the lid back on the can (it's not a perfect seal, but good enough for putting a half can of chili in the fridge for the night), but most important, the blade never touches the food. You never get that horrible disgusting gunk that builds up on regular can openers. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:949059154] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't own a regular can opener now. The one I have makes a perfectly smooth edge, you can put the lid back on the can (it's not a perfect seal, but good enough for putting a half can of chili in the fridge for the night), but most important, the blade never touches the food. You never get that horrible disgusting gunk that builds up on regular can openers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilentSeph 01/03/21 3:07:32 PM #31:	The guy is doubling down on saying that it's just 6 hours when a) it's actually longer than that and b) growing kids should be eating every 3 to 4 hours anyway. Also apparently he has old tweets where he says it's okay to call things gay and r***** and say n* so there's that. --- Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious. <cite>SilentSeph posted [p:949059217] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>The guy is doubling down on saying that it's just 6 hours when a) it's actually longer than that and b) growing kids should be eating every 3 to 4 hours anyway. Also apparently he has old tweets where he says it's okay to call things gay and r*** and say n*** so there's that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/03/21 3:09:23 PM #32:	JigsawTDC posted... He literally says this went on for six hours in the story. That is way more than just "snack time" and a reflection of poor parenting. We don't need to know their whole life to judge this particular instance. PK_Spam posted... Its like 30 posts, and he specified that the kid was hungry when this started, and didnt eat at all in the 6 hour period. Oh. I do think it went on too long. But I wasn't talking about the whole thing. I was mostly referring to the baked beans part... For when he mentioned baked beans as a meal. I said nothing about it was ok to take 6 hours to open. PK_Spam posted... Im sorry man, but why are you always like this? I genuinely feel like you spend way too much time trying to half-ass being a devils advocate. If the cupboards are bare, thats an immediate red flag. They had no food and he didnt let his daughter eat ANYTHING? Reading through that thread should have alarm bells instantly be going off in your head. Personally, I disagree with bare cupboards being an immediate red flag. Especially in this day. And if could be around the time they go shopping. Depending on when they get paid and who does the shopping. And they could have had other food that need time to prepare that he didn't want to cook at the time. For example, my cupboards are usually pretty bare. But I could still have like a box of pasta and sauce to make a meal. Of course, I wouldn't tell a kid to make pasta. I probably would instruct them to get a can of baked beans until I made the pasta for dinner. Though, if they didn't know how to use a can opener, I would have taught them rather than making it a super long lesson... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:949059270] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>JigsawTDC posted...</cite> <quote>He literally says this went on for six hours in the story. That is way more than just "snack time" and a reflection of poor parenting. We don't need to know their whole life to judge this particular instance.</quote> PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>Its like 30 posts, and he specified that the kid was hungry when this started, and didnt eat at all in the 6 hour period.</quote> Oh. I do think it went on too long. But I wasn't talking about the whole thing. I was mostly referring to the baked beans part... For when he mentioned baked beans as a meal. I said nothing about it was ok to take 6 hours to open. PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>Im sorry man, but why are you always like this? I genuinely feel like you spend way too much time trying to half-ass being a devils advocate. If the cupboards are bare, thats an immediate red flag. They had no food and he didnt let his daughter eat ANYTHING? Reading through that thread should have alarm bells instantly be going off in your head.</quote> Personally, I disagree with bare cupboards being an immediate red flag. Especially in this day. And if could be around the time they go shopping. Depending on when they get paid and who does the shopping. And they could have had other food that need time to prepare that he didn't want to cook at the time. For example, my cupboards are usually pretty bare. But I could still have like a box of pasta and sauce to make a meal. Of course, I wouldn't tell a kid to make pasta. I probably would instruct them to get a can of baked beans until I made the pasta for dinner. Though, if they didn't know how to use a can opener, I would have taught them rather than making it a super long lesson...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 01/03/21 3:49:23 PM #33:	It's important to teach kids to teach themselves.... but Let's put it a different way, can openers aren't DESIGNED to be used by people who don't know what they are... how do I know this? Because I have old can openers from ma Great Grandma and they were somewhat different devices... one of these but kinda smaller: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_opener#/media/File:YatesOpener3.jpg It's simple to understand - stab the can and pull. But the "stabby" part of a mechanical can opener is HIDDEN... it's an unfair test. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:949060698] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>It's important to teach kids to teach themselves.... but Let's put it a different way, can openers aren't DESIGNED to be used by people who don't know what they are... how do I know this? Because I have old can openers from ma Great Grandma and they were somewhat different devices... one of these but kinda smaller: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_opener#/media/File:YatesOpener3.jpg It's simple to understand - stab the can and pull. But the "stabby" part of a mechanical can opener is HIDDEN... it's an unfair test. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 01/03/21 4:18:48 PM #34:	Open a can of beans for a child and you will feed them for a day. Teach a child to open a can of beans and they will fart for a lifetime. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:949061873] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Open a can of beans for a child and you will feed them for a day. Teach a child to open a can of beans and they will fart for a lifetime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 01/03/21 4:40:42 PM #35:	Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song. --- Official Former King of Black People(Lost to Joe Biden) http://imgur.com/a/yNvXsJe <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:949062725] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 4:49:58 PM #36:	EvilMegas posted... Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song. And Friendly Fire needs to get taken off MaxFun --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949063028] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted... </cite> <quote>Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song.</quote>And Friendly Fire needs to get taken off MaxFun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darcandkharg31 01/03/21 6:11:08 PM #37:	lulz I think he deleted his twitter. --- The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me! If you take 110% of what I say seriously then you're gonna have a bad time. <cite>darcandkharg31 posted [p:949065938] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>lulz I think he deleted his twitter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 01/03/21 6:28:15 PM #38:	EvilMegas posted... Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song. i didn't realize he was the long winters guy. but i guess they are getting rid of his song now. that's pretty wild --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:949066574] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted... </cite> <quote>Great. Now MBMBaM need a new theme song.</quote> i didn't realize he was the long winters guy. but i guess they are getting rid of his song now. that's pretty wild </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raddest_Chad 01/03/21 7:18:50 PM #39:	SilentSeph posted... She is 9 years old, she's hungry, and she didn't eat for 6 hours after saying she's hungry all the while he's making a show of her getting frustrated and crying for very little payoff in the end (learning how to use a can opener). Plus he says 'superfluous' in normal sentences to a 9 year old. He sounds fucking annoying Yeah. He sounds like a POS. <cite>Raddest_Chad posted [p:949068558] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>SilentSeph posted... </cite> <quote>She is 9 years old, she's hungry, and she didn't eat for 6 hours after saying she's hungry all the while he's making a show of her getting frustrated and crying for very little payoff in the end (learning how to use a can opener). Plus he says 'superfluous' in normal sentences to a 9 year old. He sounds fucking annoying</quote>Yeah. He sounds like a POS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 8:41:11 PM #40:	TheWitchMorgana posted... i didn't realize he was the long winters guy. It was the first sentence of the topic! MrMelodramatic posted... John Roderick (frontman of John Roderick and the Long Winters, and podcast host) --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949071526] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>i didn't realize he was the long winters guy.</quote> It was the first sentence of the topic! MrMelodramatic posted... </cite> <quote>John Roderick (frontman of John Roderick and the Long Winters, and podcast host)</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 8:46:05 PM #41:	https://twitter.com/mbmbam/status/1345853685902036994?s=21 here's hoping they go back to Take A Chance On Me --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949071692] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote> https://twitter.com/mbmbam/status/1345853685902036994?s=21 here's hoping they go back to Take A Chance On Me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 10:32:02 PM #42:	lol now he is known as 'bean dad' on Twitter (I don't like Twitter, but this is objectively funny) and he deleted his entire account XD --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949075016] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>lol now he is known as 'bean dad' on Twitter (I don't like Twitter, but this is objectively funny) and he deleted his entire account XD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 01/03/21 10:32:33 PM #43:	I hope he doesn't take his Twitter anger out on his daughter in any abstract way. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:949075036] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>I hope he doesn't take his Twitter anger out on his daughter in any abstract way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 10:39:18 PM #44:	Dude's in his 50s. He should know better than waxing poetic about not feeding his kid on Twitter, especially when his income is dependent on being an internet personality. deleting his account instead of owning up to it isn't going to help him --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949075257] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Dude's in his 50s. He should know better than waxing poetic about not feeding his kid on Twitter, especially when his income is dependent on being an internet personality. deleting his account instead of owning up to it isn't going to help him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/03/21 11:22:54 PM #45:	Fuck the shitty parsing, fuck the repeated lines, and fuck you for not making it interesting. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:949076820] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Fuck the shitty parsing, fuck the repeated lines, and fuck you for not making it interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/03/21 11:29:49 PM #46:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Fuck the shitty parsing, fuck the repeated lines, and fuck you for not making it interesting. Thx 4 ur contribution 2 this --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949077074] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Fuck the shitty parsing, fuck the repeated lines, and fuck you for not making it interesting.</quote>Thx 4 ur contribution 2 this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 01/04/21 1:49:36 AM #47:	Throws a can of van camps into topic. Half of thread starves to death. <cite>dedbus posted [p:949080387] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Throws a can of van camps into topic. Half of thread starves to death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 01/04/21 2:24:25 AM #48:	None of this actually happened. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:949080924] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>None of this actually happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 01/04/21 2:43:14 AM #49:	Lmao, this guy couldve just shut up and been like oh, I was kidding! Or jjst say sorry, but he had to double down and think being a whiny piss baby was his best option against a Twitter hate mob lol. If you cant help but show your bare ass on Twitter, they wont hesitate to immediately and painfully give you a colonoscopy. How do you make it to 2021 with a verified account and not come to this realization? And despite this, it still took him far longer to realize the trouble he got himself into than it took for his daughter to learn how to use a tool that gives lots of adults a hard time. I bet hes rolling in bed, now that he realized he lost a bunch of royalty money for his own clout. --- "You're not a good person, you'll never be one, you'll never even convince anyone to mistakenly believe you to be one." -HCE to me <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:949081232] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>Lmao, this guy couldve just shut up and been like oh, I was kidding! Or jjst say sorry, but he had to double down and think being a whiny piss baby was his best option against a Twitter hate mob lol. If you cant help but show your bare ass on Twitter, they wont hesitate to immediately and painfully give you a colonoscopy. How do you make it to 2021 with a verified account and not come to this realization? And despite this, it still took him far longer to realize the trouble he got himself into than it took for his daughter to learn how to use a tool that gives lots of adults a hard time. I bet hes rolling in bed, now that he realized he lost a bunch of royalty money for his own clout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 01/04/21 2:46:15 AM #50:	DocDelicious posted... None of this actually happened. Seems like a dumb thing to lose your job over a fake story --- Forever Momo; <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:949081281] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>None of this actually happened.</quote>Seems like a dumb thing to lose your job over a fake story </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 01/04/21 2:47:32 AM #51:	MrMelodramatic posted... It was the first sentence of the topic! bold of you to assume i read anything ever --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:949081299] in What do yo... [t:79216065]...</cite> <quote>MrMelodramatic posted... </cite> <quote>It was the first sentence of the topic!</quote> bold of you to assume i read anything ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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