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AzurexNightmare 12/30/20 11:43:50 AM #1:	Won't McConnell just block it again? --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:948916243] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>Won't McConnell just block it again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBlueMonk_ 12/30/20 11:44:22 AM #2:	AzurexNightmare posted... Won't McConnell just block it again? Yep. Georgia is our only hope. --- Park Minyoung NOONA <3 https://imgur.com/F5yuHSF <cite>TheBlueMonk_ posted [p:948916260] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted... </cite> <quote>Won't McConnell just block it again?</quote>Yep. Georgia is our only hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 12/30/20 12:54:34 PM #3:	Bump --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:948918577] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenPie 12/30/20 12:54:55 PM #4:	Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time. <cite>FrozenPie posted [p:948918583] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 12/30/20 12:55:46 PM #5:	Considering he hasn't been inaugurated yet. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:948918608] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>Considering he hasn't been inaugurated yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 12/30/20 12:57:57 PM #6:	According to the NYT Biden is a reason the checks were lowered to $600. Dems were much more bold in their negotiations before he gave cover for more conservative deals. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:948918684] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>According to the NYT Biden is a reason the checks were lowered to $600. Dems were much more bold in their negotiations before he gave cover for more conservative deals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 12/30/20 12:58:37 PM #7:	SquirtleSkwad posted... Considering he hasn't been inaugurated yet. No shit dude. Talking about when he's president. Sad that everything has to be explained to people --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:948918708] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>SquirtleSkwad posted... </cite> <quote>Considering he hasn't been inaugurated yet.</quote>No shit dude. Talking about when he's president. Sad that everything has to be explained to people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/30/20 12:59:56 PM #8:	foreverzero212 posted... According to the NYT Biden is a reason the checks were lowered to $600. Dems were much more bold in their negotiations before he gave cover for more conservative deals. Not sure how Biden would have anything to do with the negotiations. Link? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:948918752] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>According to the NYT Biden is a reason the checks were lowered to $600. Dems were much more bold in their negotiations before he gave cover for more conservative deals.</quote> Not sure how Biden would have anything to do with the negotiations. Link? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 12/30/20 1:00:58 PM #9:	AzurexNightmare posted... No shit dude. Talking about when he's president. I saw no indication of this. No point in asking us, anyway. Wait and see. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:948918786] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted... </cite> <quote>No shit dude. Talking about when he's president.</quote>I saw no indication of this. No point in asking us, anyway. Wait and see. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 12/30/20 1:02:38 PM #10:	COVxy posted... Not sure how Biden would have anything to do with the negotiations. Link? I will get the link but this notion that the president elect is powerless and has no platform to express his will as the incoming leader of the party is bewildering. Of course he has influence. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:948918829] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Not sure how Biden would have anything to do with the negotiations. Link?</quote>I will get the link but this notion that the president elect is powerless and has no platform to express his will as the incoming leader of the party is bewildering. Of course he has influence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 12/30/20 1:06:27 PM #11:	Biden and the DNC trying to court conservatives after four years of Donald Trump is a huge "fuck you" to the working class. Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:948918952] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>Biden and the DNC trying to court conservatives after four years of Donald Trump is a huge "fuck you" to the working class. Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ErnstSBlofeld 12/30/20 1:08:13 PM #13:	ZMythos posted... Biden and the DNC trying to court conservatives after four years of Donald Trump is a huge "fuck you" to the working class. Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted. --- https://imgur.com/2UEUXQx Southernfatman <cite>ErnstSBlofeld posted [p:948919017] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>Biden and the DNC trying to court conservatives after four years of Donald Trump is a huge "fuck you" to the working class. Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 12/30/20 1:43:31 PM #14:	https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/21/us/politics/biden-stimulus.html With Republican and Democratic leaders in the House and Senate far apart on how much they were willing to accept in new pandemic spending, Mr. Biden on Dec. 2 threw his support behind the $900 billion plan being pushed by the centrist group. The total was less than half of the $2 trillion that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, had been insisting on. Mr. Bidens move was not without risks. If it had failed to affect the discussions, the president-elect risked looking powerless to move Congress before he had taken the oath of office. But members of both parties said his intervention was constructive and gave Democrats confidence to pull back on their demands. @COVxy The incoming leader of a party does have influence in the party... you can now be sure of that lol --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:948920142] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/21/us/politics/biden-stimulus.html With Republican and Democratic leaders in the House and Senate far apart on how much they were willing to accept in new pandemic spending, Mr. Biden on Dec. 2 threw his support behind the $900 billion plan being pushed by the centrist group. The total was less than half of the $2 trillion that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, had been insisting on. Mr. Bidens move was not without risks. If it had failed to affect the discussions, the president-elect risked looking powerless to move Congress before he had taken the oath of office. But members of both parties said his intervention was constructive and gave Democrats confidence to pull back on their demands. @COVxy The incoming leader of a party does have influence in the party... you can now be sure of that lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 12/30/20 5:50:23 PM #16:	foreverzero212 posted... The incoming leader of a party does have influence in the party... you can now be sure of that lol I'm not sure Biden saying "listen jack, we need to compromise" really constitutes in him having any power in the negotiations. Not sure there's any way that the negotiations wouldn't be heavily pulled towards conservative ideals given they are the ones with all the power. I really don't think "Biden's the reason the deals are more conservative" is a reasonable stance. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:948927902] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>The incoming leader of a party does have influence in the party... you can now be sure of that lol</quote> I'm not sure Biden saying "listen jack, we need to compromise" really constitutes in him having any power in the negotiations. Not sure there's any way that the negotiations wouldn't be heavily pulled towards conservative ideals given they are the ones with all the power. I really don't think "Biden's the reason the deals are more conservative" is a reasonable stance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 12/30/20 11:34:05 PM #17:	COVxy posted... I'm not sure Biden saying "listen jack, we need to compromise" really constitutes in him having any power in the negotiations. Not sure there's any way that the negotiations wouldn't be heavily pulled towards conservative ideals given they are the ones with all the power. I really don't think "Biden's the reason the deals are more conservative" is a reasonable stance. Democrats were making bolder demands before reports of Biden putting his weight behind the more conservative options. The report literally states it's what gave Democrats confidence in backing off their demands, even citing members of both parties confirming this. But if you know something the NYT doesn't go ahead and give us the scoop. Biden's entire history in the Obama years was to undercut Democrats and offer the farm to someone he calls a good friend:Mitch McConnell. This is just history repeating itself. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:948938970] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not sure Biden saying "listen jack, we need to compromise" really constitutes in him having any power in the negotiations. Not sure there's any way that the negotiations wouldn't be heavily pulled towards conservative ideals given they are the ones with all the power. I really don't think "Biden's the reason the deals are more conservative" is a reasonable stance.</quote> Democrats were making bolder demands before reports of Biden putting his weight behind the more conservative options. The report literally states it's what gave Democrats confidence in backing off their demands, even citing members of both parties confirming this. But if you know something the NYT doesn't go ahead and give us the scoop. Biden's entire history in the Obama years was to undercut Democrats and offer the farm to someone he calls a good friend:Mitch McConnell. This is just history repeating itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 12/30/20 11:35:46 PM #18:	FrozenPie posted... Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time. Not in the fucking white house, that's for sure. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:948939006] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>FrozenPie posted... </cite> <quote>Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time.</quote> Not in the fucking white house, that's for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 12/30/20 11:38:59 PM #19:	foreverzero212 posted... Biden's entire history in the Obama years was to undercut Democrats and offer the farm to someone he calls a good friend:Mitch McConnell. This is just history repeating itself. How so? like Obama backed down on a lot of things is it because he really let Biden sway him? If so, we're truly fucked, might as well call him seat warmer Biden for the next 4 years while Republicans fine a devil much more vile than Trump but not nearly as crazy, basically, they need a Boris Johnson, that appearance of his is a character he plays to hide what a self interested ghoul he really is. --- 6961 5280 2760 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:948939076] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>Biden's entire history in the Obama years was to undercut Democrats and offer the farm to someone he calls a good friend:Mitch McConnell. This is just history repeating itself.</quote>How so? like Obama backed down on a lot of things is it because he really let Biden sway him? If so, we're truly fucked, might as well call him seat warmer Biden for the next 4 years while Republicans fine a devil much more vile than Trump but not nearly as crazy, basically, they need a Boris Johnson, that appearance of his is a character he plays to hide what a self interested ghoul he really is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 12/30/20 11:39:43 PM #20:	If Trump can't, Biden certainly can't Unless the rumors are true --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:948939090] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>If Trump can't, Biden certainly can't Unless the rumors are true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 12/31/20 2:24:01 AM #21:	tremain07 posted... How so? like Obama backed down on a lot of things is it because he really let Biden sway him? If so, we're truly fucked, might as well call him seat warmer Biden for the next 4 years while Republicans fine a devil much more vile than Trump but not nearly as crazy, basically, they need a Boris Johnson, that appearance of his is a character he plays to hide what a self interested ghoul he really is. Oh Obama was both spineless and just not the guy he was initially marketed as. In the 2nd primary debate Bennet complained about how anytime the Dems had Republicans cornered in a deal Biden would run to his buddy Mitch behind their back and undermine everything. As Obama always said: "Dont underestimate Joes ability to fuck things up. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570 So most of the few accomplishments under Obama were done by Pelosi and Reid carrying Biden and Obama's dead weight over the finish line. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:948942511] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>tremain07 posted... </cite> <quote>How so? like Obama backed down on a lot of things is it because he really let Biden sway him? If so, we're truly fucked, might as well call him seat warmer Biden for the next 4 years while Republicans fine a devil much more vile than Trump but not nearly as crazy, basically, they need a Boris Johnson, that appearance of his is a character he plays to hide what a self interested ghoul he really is.</quote>Oh Obama was both spineless and just not the guy he was initially marketed as. In the 2nd primary debate Bennet complained about how anytime the Dems had Republicans cornered in a deal Biden would run to his buddy Mitch behind their back and undermine everything. As Obama always said: "Dont underestimate Joes ability to fuck things up. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570 So most of the few accomplishments under Obama were done by Pelosi and Reid carrying Biden and Obama's dead weight over the finish line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/31/20 2:33:03 AM #22:	ZMythos posted... Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted. That's essentially impossible in the US, where regime change happens intentionally every four or eight years. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:948942636] in Can Biden ... [t:79208242]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>Joe Biden can eat shit until I see real progressive policy enacted.</quote>That's essentially impossible in the US, where regime change happens intentionally every four or eight years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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