Current Events > Mod anonymity needs to end, right now.

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Bio1590
12/24/20 9:41:28 AM
#156:


shockthemonkey posted...
Is this dude ok?

No, he's a far-right troll that thinks immigrants are taking over Sweden and is giddy at the thought of the race war that's supposedly going to happen when the Swedish people "rise up" or "fight back" or whatever.

So think about stuff like that when you read that part of his post I isolated in my last post.
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 9:43:58 AM
#157:


BeyondWalls posted...
I'm still trying to figure out how "people will endlessly harass the mods" when the mods have the power to lock down any account that's bothering them.

I mean, you get like three moderations before you get put on warned status? So this harasser is going to suicide his account for like two messages? Is that what counts as endless harassment now? Two PMs that a mod can insta-delete?

DezDroppedFreak posted...
Have you ever heard of a user named Tails82


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Hippocrates
12/24/20 9:45:01 AM
#158:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Have you ever heard of a user named Tails82
What kind of counterpoint is this supposed to be?
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SquirtleSkwad
12/24/20 9:45:32 AM
#159:


You definitely should be able to see who modded you just to know that it isn't a moderator with some sort of chip on their shoulder.

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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 9:51:10 AM
#160:


Hippocrates posted...
What kind of counterpoint is this supposed to be?

That harassment over a moderation can extend offsite and is not just confined to gamefaqs itself, and that user in question is literally banned from this site but still spams shit in subreddits and discord servers to this day about or to moderators, particularly error

Also seeing the way some of you are obsessing over moderators right now is a pretty good reason why it is anonymous and most likely will stay anonymous.

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Hippocrates
12/24/20 9:57:16 AM
#161:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
That harassment over a moderation can extend offsite and is not just confined to gamefaqs itself, and that user in question is literally banned from this site but still spams shit in subreddits and discord servers to this day about or to moderators, particularly error
Okay, and?
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Bio1590
12/24/20 9:57:51 AM
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 9:59:31 AM
#163:


Hippocrates posted...
Okay, and?
I dont expect someone who cant hold on to their account for more than a month to get it

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Hippocrates
12/24/20 9:59:38 AM
#164:


Oh that's surprising. I guess nobody really cares about his ineffectual harassment?
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Skype
12/24/20 10:04:06 AM
#165:


Really weird how people are okay with others being harassed offsite.

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SquirtleSkwad
12/24/20 10:05:44 AM
#166:


Skype posted...
Really weird how people are okay with others being harassed offsite.
I've heard tell of some users who actually cozy up with mods offsite and basically send them a text or Discord message to expedite posts they've marked. Not sure how true that is, but it does sound like something that people would do.

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Hippocrates
12/24/20 10:05:57 AM
#167:


Skype posted...
Really weird how people are okay with others being harassed offsite.
I'm not okay with people targeting users like that, but if they're targeting a lead mod and nothing's being done I have to assume the administration just doesn't care
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 10:07:58 AM
#168:


Hippocrates posted...
I'm not okay with people targeting users like that, but if they're targeting a lead mod and nothing's being done I have to assume the administration just doesn't care

Then okay, and? is not the best response to have when someone is bringing it up to another user thats saying harassment is only on site. Really shows how much you care

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Hippocrates
12/24/20 10:10:48 AM
#169:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Then okay, and? is not the best response to have when someone is bringing it up to another user thats saying harassment is only on site. Really shows how much you care
Why should I care about that specific instance of someone with "power" being "harassed" when that person doesn't care themselves?
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Bio1590
12/24/20 10:32:41 AM
#170:


There's no way people aren't straight up concern trolling over "harassment"
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xXfireglzXx
12/24/20 10:38:27 AM
#171:


"Or else"

"Or else what?"

"Exactly."

To make demands you have to have some sort of leverage. Gamefaqs message board users have 0 leverage over the moderation staff and they never will. It's not like Reddit where the message boards are even the main draw of the website. I got moderated over some political BS the other day and contested it. It got overturned, but even if it didn't, I'm not going to seethe in rage over it.

The message board users on CE and elsewhere do fuck all to support this website from a monetary or growth perspective. We can complain, we can vent. Those complaints can be valid and reasonable, but there still is not and will not be any impetus for change because we do not matter. At all.

Honestly, if its that upsetting, pull a bender and make your own forum. If the support you have is as strong as this topic indicates it will totally survive and thrive.


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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 10:38:48 AM
#172:


Hippocrates posted...
Why should I care about that specific instance of someone with "power" being "harassed" when that person doesn't care themselves?

Bio1590 posted...
There's no way people aren't straight up concern trolling over "harassment"

You two users are one that cant go a month without saying something stupid in a rage-induced rant that ends up costing him his account and one that stays incredibly salty towards the mod staff about the warned general no longer being a thing because of its use for targeted harassment and circumventing discussion with the block feature. Forgive me if I dont really value your opinions on this as substantial

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Hippocrates
12/24/20 10:39:46 AM
#173:


Bio1590 posted...
There's no way people aren't straight up concern trolling over "harassment"
Thats what it seems like to me at least
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FlameTurtle
12/24/20 10:55:52 AM
#174:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
That harassment over a moderation can extend offsite and is not just confined to gamefaqs itself, and that user in question is literally banned from this site but still spams shit in subreddits and discord servers to this day about or to moderators, particularly error

Also seeing the way some of you are obsessing over moderators right now is a pretty good reason why it is anonymous and most likely will stay anonymous.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Tails82

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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 10:58:36 AM
#175:


Yes I did not realize his main wasnt banned. Thats my mistake. Though that does not really negate anything I said about harassment moving offsite

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FlameTurtle
12/24/20 10:59:20 AM
#176:


Pretty big mistake

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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 11:00:57 AM
#177:


FlameTurtle posted...
Pretty big mistake
How so? The whole point of bringing him up was the harassment moves offsite where you cant specifically do anything about it unless the user in question directly admits theyre the same on the board, and even then I can only think of one instance where that actually happened

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Bio1590
12/24/20 11:14:15 AM
#178:


DezDroppedFreak posted...


You two users are one that cant go a month without saying something stupid in a rage-induced rant that ends up costing him his account and one that stays incredibly salty towards the mod staff about the warned general no longer being a thing because of its use for targeted harassment and circumventing discussion with the block feature. Forgive me if I dont really value your opinions on this as substantial

Dude I literally have not said a single thing about the General for months lmao.

Why are you simping so hard for the Mods? Why should we be stuck with this fucking flaming pile of garbage of a moderation system just because of the (theoretical) actions of a small number of users in the future rather than saying these actions should be dealt with more harshly?

There's nothing actually stopping them from doing things about off-site harassment other than pure laziness and not caring. They could literally update the ToU and ban Taiis tomorrow if they actually cared enough.
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John325
12/24/20 11:18:24 AM
#179:


SavageGlum100 posted...
(especially during the year 2020 where certain heavy restrictions towards certain users with certain opinions about certain events happening during 2020 have been put in place. People don't like being censored and would rather leave and go somewhere else to have more free discussion about certain things)


Yeah, in my 18 years on this site I've only been moderated a couple of times basically just in this year for making fairly innocuous jokey/satirical comments. I think it's just overreaction and virtue signaling about current events that will blow over, much like the innocuous episodes of TV shows that got removed from streaming for supposed "racism". Seriously... An episode of Golden Girls gets pulled for a two-second gag about a facial mud mask, lmao. Or that episode of Community that was pulled for two seconds of Chang in dark elf makeup. Or something like Always Sunny where it's always clear the characters are awful and wrong in the awful and wrong things they do.

Hopefully, sense will start to prevail again once things set back into normal and context and humor will start to matter again. 2020 has been a shit show all around.
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 11:22:32 AM
#180:


Bio1590 posted...
Why are you simping so hard for the Mods? Why should we be stuck with this fucking flaming pile of garbage of a moderation system just because of the (theoretical) actions of a small number of users in the future rather than saying these actions should be dealt with more harshly?

I mean the ones complaining about this the most are the ones that literally cannot stay out of trouble.

how exactly does removing mod anonymity fix what youre complaining about?

which brings me to another point

Ive seen people across different threads say theyre getting modded for standing up to trolls or fighting for good. How are you doing that, exactly? Are you just saying Wow fuck you piece of shit? because that will most likely get you modded, and thats mostly what Ive seen get modded. That easily falls into the abusive behavior flag. You are getting goaded by trolls, some of which are skirting the TOU. Getting rid of mod anonymity is not going to fix you thinking you can flame someone because theyre saying something you deem abhorrent and that somehow magically overrides the rules. Learn how to mark and move on, or if youre going to engage, learn how to say something of substance.

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Bio1590
12/24/20 11:41:10 AM
#181:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
I mean the ones complaining about this the most are the ones that literally cannot stay out of trouble.

I have zero moderations in my history

DezDroppedFreak posted...
how exactly does removing mod anonymity fix what youre complaining about?

Because this site has some truly fucking terrible mods and being non-anonymous would put at least some level of public-facing accountability on their actions.

It would also add confidence/belief to their claims. For example, AssultTank continually claims he never handles any marks/moderations in relation to Conflict, because he cannot remain impartial (which is another matter that should be discussed but isn't related to this). There's no actual proof of this, just his word, but in a non-anonymous moderation system this would be verifiable by Conflict himself.

Of course it wouldn't fix everything. Crono straight up locked one of my topics over the weekend and then replied after he locked it so he could get the last word in. And then the topic goats made calling him out for it was moderated. Maybe the topic goats made doesn't get moderated in a system where goats could see who did the moderation, but there's no fixing the other shit.
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NinjaWarrior455
12/24/20 12:02:51 PM
#182:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
I mean the ones complaining about this the most are the ones that literally cannot stay out of trouble.

how exactly does removing mod anonymity fix what youre complaining about?

which brings me to another point

Ive seen people across different threads say theyre getting modded for standing up to trolls or fighting for good. How are you doing that, exactly? Are you just saying Wow fuck you piece of shit? because that will most likely get you modded, and thats mostly what Ive seen get modded. That easily falls into the abusive behavior flag. You are getting goaded by trolls, some of which are skirting the TOU. Getting rid of mod anonymity is not going to fix you thinking you can flame someone because theyre saying something you deem abhorrent and that somehow magically overrides the rules. Learn how to mark and move on, or if youre going to engage, learn how to say something of substance.
The problem is that the flaming gets moderated more harshly than the offending material in question. Most of this started because of that topic about the trans teen committing suicide and a user trying to imply Muslims were there reason why. That message didn't even get touched by the mods despite it being grossly racist.

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gamer167
12/24/20 12:14:55 PM
#184:


As someone who has been here on and off for 15 years, yall take GameFAQs way too fucking seriously.
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myzz7
12/24/20 12:16:40 PM
#185:


>dying website
>libfaqs. it ain't changing
>if u really care to shitpost make some alts

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armandro
12/24/20 12:17:40 PM
#186:


im acab but i simp for mods

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FrankJaegr
12/24/20 12:19:11 PM
#187:


gamer167 posted...
As someone who has been here on and off for 15 years, yall take GameFAQs way too fucking seriously.

heh I like this guy already
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One_Day_Remains
12/24/20 1:08:02 PM
#189:


shockthemonkey posted...
Is this dude ok?


He's a MAGAt who thinks Biden stole the election, so no. He posted on the MAGA board for weeks suggesting something was going to be done, and now that nothing happened he's spiraling
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 1:14:12 PM
#190:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The problem is that the flaming gets moderated more harshly than the offending material in question. Most of this started because of that topic about the trans teen committing suicide and a user trying to imply Muslims were there reason why. That message didn't even get touched by the mods despite it being grossly racist.

I agree thats a problem they dont seem to get touched, especially when its blatantly racist/trolling, but that still doesnt mean you wont get modded for engaging them in that way just because what theyre saying is morally abhorrent. It does not seem like some users understand that. Either mark and move on or engage in a way thats not going to get you too. Dont get goaded by these dumbasses

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ToadallyAwesome
12/24/20 1:22:19 PM
#191:


I agree with the other guy you have to work to get modded here. Flaming and trolling are the two big ones people seem unable to stop doing.

Also having hot takes that they think the world has to hear on a dying games message board when in reality they are either racist or worse. Case in point The Admiral who skated by for far too long but eventually got banned.

The delusions of persecution are rampant

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Socrawheeze
12/24/20 1:30:00 PM
#192:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Either mark and move on or engage in a way thats not going to get you too.
that doesn't work. you'll still get got.
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/20 2:26:25 PM
#193:


Socrawheeze posted...
that doesn't work. you'll still get got.
Again the ones I see vocally complain about this the most are the ones that when they engage they go Wow fuck you. Youre a piece of shit etc etc and seem to think that isnt moddable. They literally feed right into them then get shocked when they get modded

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BeyondWalls
12/24/20 2:32:15 PM
#194:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
agree with the other guy you have to work to get modded here.
Or maybe you have to have more than 6 active posts. Of course youre not to get modded if you barely post here.

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Crescente
12/24/20 2:40:56 PM
#195:


AssultTank posted...


Also, we have literally had mods whose families were messaged through twitter and facebook and threatened over moderations... The more public mods accept that is a possibility as a consequence of posting on the boards, but there are dozens of mods who don't post on the boards with the people who pull that shit and don't want to be targets. When mod names were public to the modded user, that sort of shit was WAY more common, it's literally why it was removed. Sort that out within the userbase first, and then the admins might consider making who modded what public again.

Damn
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MabinogiFan
12/24/20 2:49:27 PM
#196:


Socrawheeze posted...
that doesn't work. you'll still get got.

If you mark and don't post you won't get got.
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Chortlez
12/24/20 2:56:15 PM
#198:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
I agree with the other guy you have to work to get modded here.

That's only if you have opinions that are the norm. If you have conservative opinions against the norm in this quite progressive site, then you will get modded down the line. Just recently, in one topic, I made my points, and the responses were braindead ones like "you're a villain" or "wew lad" or some crap. Only person articulated on why he disagreed with me and as I planned on responding, boom, my original post was deleted.

How do you have a discussion if your posts are going to get deleted and your account ends up warned? What good is a forum if you can't let points clash against one another? Moderators take it too far where they stifle discussion and so the only points you see are the type that fit with the majority. It's already bad enough that people block others because they don't like their opinions (I can guarantee you this is a decent percentage, it's not just being used to avoid bullies).

gamer167 posted...
As someone who has been here on and off for 15 years, yall take GameFAQs way too fucking seriously.

This site is a dying site and yet it can be so much more. Some of us want this site to succeed and go back to its golden age. More importantly, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain from candid discussions. Different points are recognized, and you have more opportunities to learn. It's good we have moderators since not every forum has to be 4chan where people mudsling at each other 24/7, but the mods here keep extending what constitutes as trolling or offensive.
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FlameTurtle
12/24/20 3:09:52 PM
#200:


shockthemonkey posted...
Everytime someone bitches about getting modded for having conservative opinions, it means they were arguing against human rights. Thats literally the only conservative opinion that gets modded.
And it's almost always directed against trans people, I feel

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Chortlez
12/24/20 3:14:54 PM
#201:


shockthemonkey posted...
Everytime someone bitches about getting modded for having conservative opinions, it means they were arguing against human rights. Thats literally the only conservative opinion that gets modded.
Nah, I've gotten modded for other stuff.
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FlameTurtle
12/24/20 3:16:04 PM
#203:


shockthemonkey posted...
Idk maybe lately but it happens with Muslims, Black people, prisoners, immigrants - pretty much any marginalized group.
Oh yeah, for sure

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AP3Brain
12/24/20 3:17:56 PM
#204:


Why do some people take forum posting so seriously? Nothing is going to come from anyone posting something on this site...
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Crescente
12/24/20 3:27:53 PM
#205:


AP3Brain posted...
Why do some people take forum posting so seriously? Nothing is going to come from anyone posting something on this site...

People spend most of their lives here. Some people were born on this website. It only makes sense that they take it seriously.
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