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WipWinkle
12/09/20 6:59:47 PM
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https://twitter.com/Scapes/status/1336798157187870720

If this passes then expect streaming to either die as a job and hobby or a huge increase in influencers going to jail.

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Ermac
12/09/20 7:01:12 PM
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Back to the Middle Ages

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AzurexNightmare
12/09/20 7:03:58 PM
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This would effectively kill all streaming wouldn't it?

No more big bouncy titties...

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CADE FOSTER
12/09/20 7:04:44 PM
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Gop evil as shit as always
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myzz7
12/09/20 7:06:25 PM
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lobbyists lobbying INTENSIFIES

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BakonBitz
12/09/20 7:07:02 PM
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Wonder if this guy came up with the idea because of AOC doing her streams, so he wants to hurt democrats.
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WipWinkle
12/09/20 11:08:24 PM
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Gonna bump this.

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kingdrake2
12/09/20 11:10:12 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Wonder if this guy came up with the idea because of AOC doing her streams, so he wants to hurt democrats.


he probably did. wants to hit AOC and take out influencers with 1 stone.
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LightningAce11
12/09/20 11:11:13 PM
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So dsp would finally be arrested?
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Mr_Karate_II
12/09/20 11:12:34 PM
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On one hand it's shitty and probably won't pass but on the other hand, it's copyrighted material that they make money off of...without the copyright holder seeing any of it.

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St0rmFury
12/09/20 11:12:56 PM
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Big corps write laws to their own advantage. What else is new.
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Crazyman93
12/09/20 11:13:10 PM
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Oh, you mean they'd have to get real jobs? I am in full support.

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VTBM
12/09/20 11:16:56 PM
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Hexenherz
12/09/20 11:19:22 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
On one hand it's shitty and probably won't pass but on the other hand, it's copyrighted material that they make money off of...without the copyright holder seeing any of it.
It's wrapped up in a big spending bill. Delaying that means yet another government shutdown

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Pitlord_Special
12/09/20 11:19:34 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
On one hand it's shitty and probably won't pass but on the other hand, it's copyrighted material that they make money off of...without the copyright holder seeing any of it.

Streamers turned Among Us from an obscure game released two years ago into the biggest meme game of 2020. The copyright holders would be stupid to want to prosecute people for giving them free advertising.

Make no mistake, this is being pushed by the TV and film corporations because they want to see streaming die as an entertainment form so you can go back to watching their shows and movies instead.

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nfearurspecimn
12/09/20 11:20:51 PM
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yo this is really REALLY fucked

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TroutPaste
12/09/20 11:21:08 PM
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Middle hope
12/09/20 11:21:22 PM
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DEKMStephens
12/09/20 11:21:36 PM
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Who knew republicans were anti business

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Letron_James
12/09/20 11:33:32 PM
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DEKMStephens posted...
Who knew republicans were anti business

They are only anti small business. They love big companies and middle sized ones because they bootlick to get favorable hookups

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muchdran
12/09/20 11:37:37 PM
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Good, Influencers can fuck off. Get a real job. Entitled pieces of shit.
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Beefbud
12/09/20 11:38:25 PM
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my state re-elected this man

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muchdran
12/09/20 11:39:13 PM
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Letron_James posted...
They are only anti small business. They love big companies and middle sized ones because they bootlick to get favorable hookups
So the Facebook anti trust lawsuit doesn't exist?
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JoeThe12th
12/09/20 11:41:12 PM
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Guess the checks didnt clear
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BakonBitz
12/09/20 11:41:38 PM
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muchdran posted...
Good, Influencers can fuck off. Get a real job. Entitled pieces of shit.

Spicy take, my man. Wonder if anyone's gonna bite.
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St0rmFury
12/09/20 11:42:33 PM
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muchdran posted...
Good, Influencers can fuck off. Get a real job. Entitled pieces of shit.

First they came for the streamers..
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KainWind
12/10/20 12:01:56 AM
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Can't let these crazy kids make money at home during a pandemic.

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kingdrake2
12/10/20 12:18:55 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
t's wrapped up in a big spending bill. Delaying that means yet another government shutdown


3 to 1 odd's government shutdown will happen. because mitch loves it.
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Mr_Karate_II
12/10/20 12:33:54 AM
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I don't feel bad for streamers. They're making money off of copyrighted material.

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waterjoe
12/10/20 12:35:55 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
I don't feel bad for streamers. They're making money off of copyrighted material.

F&^K OFF
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Mr_Karate_II
12/10/20 12:36:31 AM
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waterjoe posted...
F&^K OFF
You mad?

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ChocoboMogALT
12/10/20 12:38:31 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
On one hand it's shitty and probably won't pass but on the other hand, it's copyrighted material that they make money off of...without the copyright holder seeing any of it.
It's a transformative work and is the perfect example of copyright law that long been outdated.

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Bio1590
12/10/20 12:40:34 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
I don't feel bad for streamers. They're making money off of copyrighted material.

And streamers also significantly increase the reach/audience of games with minimal costs to the copyright holder(s).
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PokemonYoutube
12/10/20 12:50:52 AM
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Wouldn't this just affect American streamers?
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jumi
12/10/20 12:54:40 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
I don't feel bad for streamers. They're making money off of copyrighted material.

"Fuck Siskel and Ebert, reviewing COPYRIGHTED MOVIES!"

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Crazyman93
12/10/20 12:58:12 AM
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jumi posted...
"Fuck Siskel and Ebert, reviewing COPYRIGHTED MOVIES!"
Legally speaking, it's very different. Ebert never used footage of the movie in his reviews as far as I can recall. Streamers are using gameplay.

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Questionmarktarius
12/10/20 1:04:38 AM
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This is going to be opposed by the same entities it claims to protect, as it effectively removes the ability to file a copyright claim and siphon off ad revenue.
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jumi
12/10/20 1:07:11 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is going to be opposed by the same entities it claims to protect, as it effectively removes the ability to file a copyright claim and siphon off ad revenue.

It will probably be up to the company.

1. Allow it.
2. Allow it, but no revenue.
3. Don't allow it.
4. Don't allow it, send 'em to jail.

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Bat178
12/10/20 1:08:35 AM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
Wouldn't this just affect American streamers?
Most of the internet goes through American server farms and whatever does is under US jurisdiction regardless of where it came from, so foreign sites would be effected as well.

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BakonBitz
12/10/20 1:09:57 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...

Legally speaking, it's very different. Ebert never used footage of the movie in his reviews as far as I can recall. Streamers are using gameplay.

Compared to movies, gameplay is transformative and is dubious at best when it comes to copyright infringement.
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Questionmarktarius
12/10/20 1:10:08 AM
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jumi posted...
4. Don't allow it, send 'em to jail.
Then we're back to strange old days of fake emails and layered proxies. Perhaps all the youtube idiots shilling Nord VPN could see the future or something?
At the very least, maybe it'll be the end of yellow-outline-goofy-expression tuber thumbnails.
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NightMarishPie
12/10/20 1:11:13 AM
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Mr_Karate_II

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Damn_Underscore
12/10/20 1:24:32 AM
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eh I bet nothing is actually going to happen

Think about how insane it would be if people literally went to prison for streaming video games... I can't fathom that.

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PokemonYoutube
12/10/20 1:29:23 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Think about how insane it would be if people literally went to prison for streaming video games... I can't fathom that.
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OffTempo
12/10/20 1:35:02 AM
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Its a proposal not a law. Would be surprised if this actually got passed.

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BakonBitz
12/10/20 1:41:12 AM
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OffTempo posted...
Its a proposal not a law. Would be surprised if this actually got passed.

It's part of a bill that has to be passed otherwise we'll face another government shutdown. That's the only way people like that can get shit in like this.

At most it'll just be put on hold to amend or change the bill, instead of not passing it outright.
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Crazyman93
12/10/20 4:26:02 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
It's part of a bill that has to be passed otherwise we'll face another government shutdown. That's the only way people like that can get shit in like this.
Riders are a tumor on democracy. Seriously, go look at some "sure thing" bills that seem like political suicide to vote against and see what they were sneaking in with them.

As an over the top example, imagine something like "H.R. 4583, Measure to declare kittens are cuddly", sounds nice, then you read through and there's a rider stuck in saying "In addition all pit bulls in shelters will be banned from adoption".

More realistically, a lot of the COVID relief bills the GOP was voting against had endowments to pet projects like some Symphony Orchestra, or provisions for mail in voting. But because the bill was titled something like "COVID Relief act" it looks terrible to vote against even if it's because half the funding is fluff shit.

Actually, this is even worse than that since this bill is literally a must pass for the Government to function.

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