Current Events > Music copyright is getting ridiculous on Twitch now.

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BakonBitz
11/13/20 8:29:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/OminousBagel/status/1327018830137335812

Apparently with what's going on, games need to be muted, and now with this, if it has stock sound effects (which are many of them) you could get flagged.

Youtube is ironically starting to look like the better streaming platform despite all its shit.
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pkmnlord
11/13/20 8:32:07 PM
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Music copyright is getting ridiculous in general. That fucking copyright law from the 70s needs to be AMENDED ALREADY. FFS there's so much music out there that needs to be introduced to the digital age, but we're being held back because money grubbing assholes want their royalties.

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Wetterdew
11/13/20 8:33:13 PM
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Twitch is waging war on ad blockers so I stopped going there about a month ago.

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Blade_Trinity
11/13/20 8:47:29 PM
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pkmnlord posted...
Music copyright is getting ridiculous in general. That fucking copyright law from the 70s needs to be AMENDED ALREADY. FFS there's so much music out there that needs to be introduced to the digital age, but we're being held back because money grubbing assholes want their royalties.
Do you work for free?

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QueenCarly
11/13/20 8:55:39 PM
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The DMCA needs to be completely overhauled.

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K181
11/13/20 9:08:28 PM
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Going after sound effects is ridiculous if true, but for the life of me I don't see the big deal about having game music muted or only playing royalty free music. It's stupid and archaic, but that's the system that youtubers have worked around for years so I don't see why streamers are shocked to finally be impacted by this as well.

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Ving_Rhames
11/13/20 9:10:38 PM
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lol Twitch.

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LightningAce11
11/13/20 9:13:21 PM
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Streamers always think that music, game, delivery companies should always cater to them.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/13/20 9:20:59 PM
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Copyright law needs to be broken completely down and redone from the ground up

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/20 9:21:37 PM
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The world needs a Russian or Chinese platform that doesn't give a fuck about copyrights.

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Medussa
11/13/20 9:22:59 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Streamers always think that music, game, delivery companies should always cater to them.

i mean, it's has to be worth more in advertising than the loss in royalty revenue. doesn't it?

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Funkydog
11/13/20 9:26:46 PM
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K181 posted...
Going after sound effects is ridiculous if true, but for the life of me I don't see the big deal about having game music muted or only playing royalty free music. It's stupid and archaic, but that's the system that youtubers have worked around for years so I don't see why streamers are shocked to finally be impacted by this as well.
A big issue, evidently, was how twitch handled it. For years it was never really an issue and then out of the blue they started getting warnings, removed and finally given a few days notice to delete everything or risk losing their channel. All with little means to check what would need to be removed, or even told what was an issue when they were given a warning.

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_Savage
11/13/20 9:32:37 PM
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Between shit like this and locked videos, people have been slowly migrating to youtube for a while. at least until they start acting like bitches too.

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LightHawKnight
11/13/20 9:35:39 PM
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_Savage posted...
Between shit like this and locked videos, people have been slowly migrating to youtube for a while. at least until they start acting like bitches too.

Start? Youtube has always been pretty horrible with copyright stuff.

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KainWind
11/13/20 9:36:09 PM
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Wonder what speedrunners will do since game audio is required for it to be valid.

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_Savage
11/13/20 9:38:37 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Start? Youtube has always been pretty horrible with copyright stuff.
No duh.

Are they telling people to mute their games? Ok then.

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MC_BatCommander
11/13/20 9:41:32 PM
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It was only a matter of time, every platform ends up this way.

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_Savage
11/13/20 10:00:43 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
It was only a matter of time, every platform ends up this way.


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BakonBitz
11/13/20 10:01:17 PM
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KainWind posted...
Wonder what speedrunners will do since game audio is required for it to be valid.

Probably just set it up with headphones so that only they can hear the audio.
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Azarias
11/13/20 10:42:53 PM
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KainWind posted...
Wonder what speedrunners will do since game audio is required for it to be valid.
Correct me if I am wrong but could they not also just record themselves playing the game and submit that as a run, instead of just submitting the stream?

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Collat
11/13/20 11:09:17 PM
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_Savage posted...
Between shit like this and locked videos, people have been slowly migrating to youtube for a while. at least until they start acting like bitches too.
YouTube is way worse for this. Always has been.
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_Savage
11/13/20 11:11:19 PM
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Collat posted...
YouTube is way worse for this. Always has been.
Not for games.


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Collat
11/13/20 11:13:58 PM
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_Savage posted...
Not for games.
For everything.

Game osts without licenced music set it off and random ass people can just put out a claim with absolutely no verification that can lead to a ban.
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_Savage
11/13/20 11:16:16 PM
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And yet, nothing like what Twitch is being described doing in the OP of this thread.

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Touch
11/13/20 11:18:46 PM
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Mixer died for this

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Collat
11/13/20 11:19:20 PM
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_Savage posted...
And yet, nothing like what Twitch is being described doing in the OP of this thread.
A friend of mine had their channel banned because their video showed a cutscene that was also in a jacksepticeye video.

Youtube is worse.

For now.
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Vermander
11/13/20 11:22:27 PM
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I remember a few weeks ago when Underoath was sitting and doing a Twitch review of all all their albums song by song and copyright literally ripped only the audio parts out that were the song.

Imagine being a musician and having your own music removed from your channel because a record label owns it.
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BigMeatyClaws
11/13/20 11:23:10 PM
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Its so hard being a streamer these days

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kirbyakaZ
11/13/20 11:25:55 PM
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I've also heard from friends of mine that they've gotten strikes from VODs from a month ago they already deleted.

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Heavy_D_Forever
11/13/20 11:30:36 PM
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https://m.twitch.tv/directory/game/FUSER

How are people still streaming this on Twitch? Literally the whole game is licensed music lol

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voldothegr8
11/13/20 11:32:40 PM
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One way or another shit will come to a head, this is getting out of hand. Between music take downs and ad wars Twitch is becoming shit, but this is bad for the streaming industry as a whole.
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_Savage
11/13/20 11:34:31 PM
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Collat posted...
A friend of mine had their channel banned because their video showed a cutscene that was also in a jacksepticeye video.

Youtube is worse.

For now.
Nice anecdote.

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Collat
11/13/20 11:35:32 PM
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Wonder if Smashcast will take off now.
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voldothegr8
11/13/20 11:36:46 PM
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Maybe this is why M$ bailed out of their streaming platform, they saw the writing on the wall.
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Middle hope
11/13/20 11:41:57 PM
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Gonna be funny when viewer counts drop and people stream elsewhere.

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yunalenne10
11/15/20 1:47:06 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Gonna be funny when viewer counts drop and people stream elsewhere.
Like where?

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Flauros
11/15/20 1:48:02 AM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Like where?
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Delirious_Beard
11/15/20 1:53:07 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Gonna be funny when viewer counts drop and people stream elsewhere.

the exact same thing will happen to any platform that gets big enough

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kirbyakaZ
11/15/20 2:08:43 AM
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https://twitter.com/MofoeTV/status/1327433813526396928/photo/1

It got worse.

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BakonBitz
11/15/20 2:32:02 AM
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dave_is_slick
11/15/20 2:45:20 AM
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Blade_Trinity posted...
Do you work for free?
Questions like these are so dishonest they don't even deserve to be entertained.

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1337toothbrush
11/15/20 2:57:58 AM
#42:


Imaginary Property laws are incredibly fucking stupid and the music industry is among the worst offenders. It's gotten worse with AI because they're a bunch of technologically illiterate dumbfucks who think AI is some magical thing that can easily and accurately pick out music. They don't give a shit about the many false positives. They like to pretend they're doing it for the artists too, even though the industry fatcats pocket almost everything while the artists themselves make fractions of a fraction of penny per listen.

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joe40001
11/15/20 3:25:10 AM
#43:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Copyright law needs to be broken completely down and redone from the ground up


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the_rowan
11/15/20 3:41:01 AM
#44:


Wetterdew posted...
Twitch is waging war on ad blockers so I stopped going there about a month ago.

@Wetterdew
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/jjepg8/fix_for_ublock_origin_on_twitch_i_updated_the/
This is now just instructions to install a standalone extension which basically tells Twitch you're a Google webcrawler and doesn't show you ads. Worked 100% of the time for several days now.

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Rika_Furude
11/15/20 4:48:00 AM
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how about any time a video has a copyright claim filed against it and its taken down, it gets reviewed by a court. if that take down was bad (i.e. someone streaming a game and the games music was copyright claimed) then the copyright owner gets fined $1 million

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voldothegr8
11/15/20 11:14:18 AM
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the_rowan posted...


@Wetterdew
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/jjepg8/fix_for_ublock_origin_on_twitch_i_updated_the/
This is now just instructions to install a standalone extension which basically tells Twitch you're a Google webcrawler and doesn't show you ads. Worked 100% of the time for several days now.

Yeah I had to use this to get rid of the ads since the uBlock Origin method is broken again, fucking pricks.
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