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scar the 1
10/27/20 7:36:50 AM
#103:


Btw the mother of the victim called the cops not out of fear for herself but for her son. She informed then that he was mentally unstable and they went in guns ablaze. This is one of the core complaints against the police force - they get all the funding and their only response to any situation is violence. If all you have is a hammer (and you refuse to invest in other tools), you bet everything is gonna look like a nail

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The Trent
10/27/20 7:38:05 AM
#104:


does that make the hammer evil?

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scar the 1
10/27/20 7:38:39 AM
#105:


The Trent posted...
does that make the hammer evil?
Really good and smart question befitting the eminent likes of yourself

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The Trent
10/27/20 7:40:06 AM
#106:


so it does

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Shablagoo
10/27/20 7:42:12 AM
#107:


The Trent posted...
does that make the hammer evil?

Id like you a lot more if you didnt unnecessarily bootlick in any topic involving police. Dawg, how does seeing a son get shot up in front of his mother who called the police asking for them to help him not bother you, Jesus Christ. That was her baby boy, dude.

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Flauros
10/27/20 7:43:23 AM
#108:


scar the 1 posted...
Btw the mother of the victim called the cops not out of fear for herself but for her son. She informed then that he was mentally unstable and they went in guns ablaze. This is one of the core complaints against the police force - they get all the funding and their only response to any situation is violence. If all you have is a hammer (and you refuse to invest in other tools), you bet everything is gonna look like a nail
Did she call the cops knowing that he was armed and more than willing to attack anyone who approaches?

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scar the 1
10/27/20 7:43:43 AM
#109:


Shablagoo posted...
Id like you a lot more if you didnt unnecessarily bootlick in any topic involving police. Dawg, how does seeing a son get shot up in front of his mother who called the police asking for them to help him not bother you, Jesus Christ. That was her baby boy, dude.
He's very very obviously trolling in all those topics.

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The Trent
10/27/20 7:44:23 AM
#110:


eh i'll leave it
you're right

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Kaiganeer
10/27/20 7:44:29 AM
#111:


Shablagoo posted...
his mother who called the police asking for them to help him
how do you help someone who's charging at you with a knife
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The Trent
10/27/20 7:45:07 AM
#112:


Kaiganeer posted...
how do you help someone who's charging at you with a knife

just leave it

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FursonaNonGrata
10/27/20 7:45:33 AM
#114:


The Trent posted...
eh i'll leave it
you're right

See you in the next topic doing the exact same thing. You seriously need to evaluate the way you spend time on this site if you think trolling in topics like this is a good use of your energy.

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Collat
10/27/20 7:47:31 AM
#115:


scar the 1 posted...
Btw the mother of the victim called the cops not out of fear for herself but for her son. She informed then that he was mentally unstable and they went in guns ablaze. This is one of the core complaints against the police force - they get all the funding and their only response to any situation is violence. If all you have is a hammer (and you refuse to invest in other tools), you bet everything is gonna look like a nail
Definitely suicide by cop.

Nobody approaches 2 officers with just a knife and expects to take them both out.
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The Trent
10/27/20 7:47:47 AM
#116:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
See you in the next topic doing the exact same thing. You seriously need to evaluate the way you spend time on this site if you think trolling in topics like this is a good use of your energy.

We are at an impasse
I do not think there is a good use of energy on this site

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scar the 1
10/27/20 7:49:44 AM
#117:


Collat posted...
Definitely suicide by cop.

Nobody approaches 2 officers with just a knife and expects to take them both out.
Or, you know, the guy was mentally unstable, having some sort of episode, and needed some form of help that isn't "racist murderers with guns drawn closing in on you"

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Beemo_Season11
10/27/20 7:50:23 AM
#118:


These senseless riots need to stop
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Jagr_68
10/27/20 7:52:42 AM
#119:


Beemo_Season11 posted...
These senseless riots need to stop

Post on your fucking main loser.

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BudDupree48
10/27/20 7:53:43 AM
#120:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
darkprince needs to shut the fuck up.

Neither of the officers had their guns holstered so he can shut the fuck up on that point. And if the non-lethal options you have are so fucking shitty, maybe you should fucking buy new equipment that actually fucking works.

Fucking kiss the fucking boot.

You know it would then come out of your tax dollars right. You never have anything intelligent or informative to add

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
10/27/20 7:57:33 AM
#121:


Pigs gonna oink.
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Beemo_Season11
10/27/20 8:02:48 AM
#122:


I guess we need a specific police taskforce that deals with the mentally ill, similar to SWAT teams for extreme situations.

Dunno how it would make things better with the anti-cop crowd as this new task force would have to use things like netguns and sleep gas.
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scar the 1
10/27/20 8:07:51 AM
#123:


Beemo_Season11 posted...
I guess we need a specific police taskforce that deals with the mentally ill, similar to SWAT teams for extreme situations.

Dunno how it would make things better with the anti-cop crowd as this new task force would have to use things like netguns and sleep gas.
Lol, this is a really poor excuse for bait

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viewmaster_pi
10/27/20 8:07:51 AM
#124:


Beemo_Season11 posted...
Dunno how it would make things better with the anti-cop crowd
nothing will, that's a fundamental facet of their edgy counterculture. they'll move on to the next reason why cops are evil pigs, the world's biggest gang, etc, then the next, then the next, and so on, even if it was as minor and pointless as getting busted for spraypainting a crude dick on something. they WANT a reason to hate cops forever, they can't brood the same way about something else

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Cheater87
10/27/20 8:09:00 AM
#125:


My bro is a cop and was injured in these riots. Just found out.

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viewmaster_pi
10/27/20 8:10:02 AM
#126:


Cheater87 posted...
My bro is a cop and was injured in these riots. Just found out.
you shouldn't share that here, you know certain users are glad to hear it

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The_Korey
10/27/20 8:12:59 AM
#127:


I don't even kare about this one. If you're that far off the deep end that you're willing to chase police with a knife as they back away with aimed guns and beg you to stop, fuck you. Next.

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NinjaWarrior455
10/27/20 8:15:09 AM
#128:


Fucking disgusting pigs murdered the man in cold blood

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DuneMan
10/27/20 8:23:38 AM
#129:


I know people are incensed at police violence, especially since the police so quickly escalate force against black-skinned individuals, but in this particular case it is hard to see how a followup investigation will find this as anything other than justified.

The police repeated orders to the man, backed off to give him time to respond, repositioned themselves to avoid potentially striking onlookers in a crossfire, and then fired as he continued to advance.

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voldothegr8
10/27/20 8:28:35 AM
#130:


I wonder how this would have been handled in countries where the cops don't carry guns
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Ilishe
10/27/20 8:28:47 AM
#131:


He charged them with a knife

Why would he do that? Of course they shot him.

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Lord_Wombat
10/27/20 8:30:31 AM
#132:


Shablagoo posted...


Id like you a lot more if you didnt unnecessarily bootlick in any topic involving police. Dawg, how does seeing a son get shot up in front of his mother who called the police asking for them to help him not bother you, Jesus Christ. That was her baby boy, dude.

So since she was there, the cops should have just allowed him to stab them?

This one is 100% justified, sorry.
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NeonOctopus
10/27/20 8:30:47 AM
#133:


Cops are justified in shooting someone who is charging them with a knife at least 20ft iirc >_> I remember my cop friend telling me that.

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Ilishe
10/27/20 8:31:30 AM
#134:


voldothegr8 posted...
I wonder how this would have been handled in countries where the cops don't carry guns

He might have killed or wounded them. Depends on their training and equipment, but also luck.

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ScazarMeltex
10/27/20 8:34:35 AM
#135:


Moral of the story, don't call the cops for any reason unless you want it to end it bloodshed. Don't call them for help with mentally ill or autistic people because the chances are that the person you want to help will end up dead because the cops simply do not care to use anything other than their guns when it comes time to solve a problem.

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Collat
10/27/20 8:39:51 AM
#136:


scar the 1 posted...
Or, you know, the guy was mentally unstable, having some sort of episode, and needed some form of help that isn't "racist murderers with guns drawn closing in on you"
Well that still applies wether he was trying to get killed or not. He's clearly not well.
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Lord_Wombat
10/27/20 8:42:18 AM
#137:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Moral of the story, don't call the cops for any reason unless you want it to end it bloodshed. Don't call them for help with mentally ill or autistic people because the chances are that the person you want to help will end up dead because the cops simply do not care to use anything other than their guns when it comes time to solve a problem.

If they attempt to stab a cop, yeah.

Fairest of nexts.
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Shablagoo
10/27/20 8:56:45 AM
#138:


Lord_Wombat posted...
If they attempt to stab a cop, yeah.

Fairest of nexts.

Even if you want to skew facts and say he was charging the police officers, as many have done ITT, his point stands that calling the police did nothing to improve this situation. No one got hurt until the police showed up.

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Lord_Wombat
10/27/20 9:26:12 AM
#139:


Shablagoo posted...


Even if you want to skew facts and say he was charging the police officers, as many have done ITT, his point stands that calling the police did nothing to improve this situation. No one got hurt until the police showed up.

Lol keep stretching
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Shablagoo
10/27/20 9:30:37 AM
#140:


So youre saying someone got hurt before the police showed up? Proof?

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nemu
10/27/20 9:35:49 AM
#141:


I don't really see what they could have reasonably done differently with how aggressive he was being. They easily could have been the ones to die if a taser failed and he bumrushed them. They could have maybe tried to get back to their car to leave and see if that deescalated things, but that would potentially lead him turning on someone else nearby. It just seems to be an unfortunate no-win situation. I don't get why people dump on cops and then simultaneously expect them to be superhumans who can shoot the knife out of his hand or have 100% taser accuracy.
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fan357
10/27/20 10:27:02 AM
#142:


Lmao CE. Why didnt the cops just do a QTE to disarm?

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Tyranthraxus
10/27/20 10:30:33 AM
#143:


voldothegr8 posted...
I wonder how this would have been handled in countries where the cops don't carry guns

This was last year in America.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/28/nypd-man-knife-asked-shot-after-walking-into-precinct/1853215001/

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/27/20 10:32:49 AM
#144:


Bring back the samurai

People will fucking back down to a 4ft sword than a 9mm gun for some dumb reason

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Crescente
10/27/20 10:38:33 AM
#146:


There needs to be better training and restructering for sure. Cops need to have at least one or two years of training. The average amount is 20 weeks. Places like Norway have two years of training. They need better deescalation and psycological training/help on their side when dealing with people like this as well. However, there also needs to be more mental health care available for the general public. There needs to be more assistance for communities financially and healthwise to prevent people to become like this. There also needs to be better gun control. Too many people have access to guns in the US. It's no surprise cops become nervous in these situations when anyone could pull out a gun. Not to mention there are a lot of crazy people in the US.

All in all, the US a lot of issues they need to figure out and it's not going to be easy.
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ThePhantomMedic
10/27/20 10:41:06 AM
#147:


Ok i consider myself to be anti cop and is support of BLM but.... fair... he fucking charged them!!!!
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vigorm0rtis
10/27/20 10:44:56 AM
#148:


fan357 posted...
Lmao CE. Why didnt the cops just do a QTE to disarm?

It's time to face one of three realities:

  1. Americans are inherently more violent and degenerate than the rest of the developed world.
  2. People in other countries don't have knives.
  3. Our police are woefully under-qualified and have to resort to fatal violence because it's the only thing they know.

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Shablagoo
10/27/20 10:50:31 AM
#149:


Crescente posted...
There needs to be better training and restructering for sure. Cops need to have at least one or two years of training. The average amount is 20 weeks. Places like Norway have two years of training.

Some countries do 4 years, which makes sense to me; like getting a college degree. That should be the bare minimum level of training for someone who essentially has a license to kill.

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The_Scarecrow
10/27/20 11:13:35 AM
#150:


voldothegr8 posted...
I wonder how this would have been handled in countries where the cops don't carry guns

https://youtu.be/9mzPj_IaMzY


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Rebel_Patriot
10/27/20 11:18:43 AM
#151:


Shablagoo posted...
So is 10 ft with a gang of people who all have guns trained on you, especially when if they murder you they get to retire with a full pension for it.
You cant murder someone coming at you with a knife. Good riddance.

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Hoe
10/27/20 11:19:16 AM
#152:


The shooting was justified, but how many bullets were fired? Seemed excessive.
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Sad_Face
10/27/20 11:20:10 AM
#153:


I'd hate to be a cop right now. Can't even defend yourself without starting a riot nowadays smh

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