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NFUN
07/23/20 1:33:36 AM
#453:


LordoftheMorons posted...
tbqh I think a lot of people would miss that one (unless they knew ahead of time that they were going to have to repeat it later).
you are told that

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StealThisSheen
07/23/20 2:08:39 AM
#454:


Yeah, they tell you to remember them.

And it's not 25-30 minutes later. It's much less.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/20 4:36:30 AM
#455:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Everyone was convinced that Trump wouldnt win last time either.

last time, trump wasn't president and he didn't completely screw up the handling of a pandemic

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/20 4:40:33 AM
#456:


also, last time i wasn't THAT convinced trump wouldn't win. i did think hillary would win but i thought trump also had a decent chance.

i think the chances of trump winning this time are like 0.1%. obviously, that percentage can change in the coming months. but as long as biden doesn't die, i think trump winning is quite unlikely.

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red13n
07/23/20 5:12:34 AM
#457:


LordoftheMorons posted...
tbqh I think a lot of people would miss that one (unless they knew ahead of time that they were going to have to repeat it later).

Part of the test probably isn't scored on "missing" but rather on things like making up stuff in the answer. MIssing is probably normal, not knowing the order is probably normal. But someone making stuff up to fill space is likely where things get questionable.

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Lightning Strikes
07/23/20 6:37:12 AM
#458:


Yes, the comparisons between 2016 and 2020 are a massive false equivalence. Hillary didnt have a nearly 10% lead and she never led in Texas, which will push Trump into defensive spending and campaigning even if he wins it - in 2016 he visited Texas once.

And thats just looking at the numbers themselves. 2020 Trump is not 2016 Trump and Biden is not Hillary.

This is of course caveated with the fact that things can change immensely in three months. On the whole though it was never this bad for Trump last time.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 7:16:00 AM
#459:


Yeah 2020 is going to be a dem rout. Looking at the maps and data back in 2016 anyone with a sense could tell that while hillary had an advantage, her being a lock was a media pipe dream and all trump had to do was swing a couple states that he wasnt that far behind in

And back then his biggest downsides were emotional stuff. People care a lot more about being stuck at home, running out of money, and people dying than they do grabbing a faceless person by the pussy. Its going to be a sweep folks

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LinkMarioSamus
07/23/20 8:21:11 AM
#460:


Yeah this feels like one of those cases where you shouldn't count Trump out, but by any logic he isn't getting another term in office.

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Dancedreamer
07/23/20 8:41:44 AM
#461:


I'm not ready to count this as a win. We need to act as though Biden is down by 50 points. Don't get complacent. Remember that voter suppression exists. And in the time of Covid19 it will be worse.

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Seanchan
07/23/20 8:53:14 AM
#462:


Also, there's the distinct possibility that Trump will say "voter fraud" and simply refuse to leave.

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TheRock1525
07/23/20 8:53:17 AM
#463:


Biden is down by 50 points?!?! Its over, no point in even trying to vote.

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Lightning Strikes
07/23/20 8:53:51 AM
#464:


Indeed if the election was tomorrow Trump would get thrashed. However its not tomorrow so we wont know for months.

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SmartMuffin
07/23/20 8:59:52 AM
#465:


https://twitter.com/VinceCoglianese/status/1286081068722991104

"all ya'll look alike"

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 9:36:59 AM
#466:


Biden is absolutely a racist

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Jakyl25
07/23/20 9:38:53 AM
#467:


Poor kids are just as bright and as talented as white kids
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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/20 9:52:43 AM
#468:


love 2 call biden a racist to justify xenophobia

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 9:53:58 AM
#469:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
love 2 call biden a racist to justify xenophobia
I dont think anyone is doing that lol

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 9:55:51 AM
#470:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Indeed if the election was tomorrow Trump would get thrashed. However its not tomorrow so we wont know for months.
The only thing that can save trump is if he literally shrunk into the microscopic world and killed off every covid particle with his bare hands

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PerfectChaosZ
07/23/20 10:00:44 AM
#471:


I dont know if you people are just not remembering but even here and everywhere I go people were absolutely sure he wasnt going to win. Even conservatives were starting to give up hope. So forgive me if this seems all eerily similar.
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Jakyl25
07/23/20 10:05:56 AM
#472:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
I dont know if you people are just not remembering but even here and everywhere I go people were absolutely sure he wasnt going to win. Even conservatives were starting to give up hope. So forgive me if this seems all eerily similar.


I agree with the notion that its still too early to get comfortable. Anything can happen to change things in 3 months+

But you cant deny all the data that says that RIGHT NOW, Biden is farther ahead than Hillary ever was
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The Mana Sword
07/23/20 10:08:03 AM
#473:


lots of people believed that hillary was going to win, but the data never really backed that up. it was always a close race when you looked at the individual state polls

the data this time is extremely in biden's favor, as jakyl said

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:08:50 AM
#474:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
I dont know if you people are just not remembering but even here and everywhere I go people were absolutely sure he wasnt going to win. Even conservatives were starting to give up hope. So forgive me if this seems all eerily similar.
Again, the big difference here is his complete ineptitude is gonna have us go on lockdown all over again >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>x50 "grab them by the pussy"

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:11:15 AM
#475:


I voted for trump last time and in march was planning on abstaining as i dont care enough about biden to switch parties. But 4 months of trump being a tangible net negative on my life with no end in sight and yeah, my vote is for joe

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Tom Bombadil
07/23/20 10:17:22 AM
#476:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Yeah this feels like one of those cases where you shouldn't count Trump out, but by any logic he isn't getting another term in office.

Logic? In 2020?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/20 10:17:58 AM
#477:


iiaattgg posted...
I dont think anyone is doing that lol

Did you actually investigate smuffin's link or just take his word for it? That's exactly what's being done. Like, let me clear, Biden is racist, but I can also point out rhetorical garbage when I say it.

I mean come on. I slammed Biden over the shit he said yesterday but he's very clearly making a point about indiscriminate bigotry here. And the response is...



"How dare Biden insinuate I can't tell Asian nationalities apart! He's just spewing Chinese propoganda. I, an intellectual, am much more precise with my bigotry which justifies me blaming China for COVID."

The mental gymnastics on display here are astounding.

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SmartMuffin
07/23/20 10:19:15 AM
#478:


Do you dispute that the virus originated in China, and that the Chinese government did not properly contain its spread?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/20 10:22:28 AM
#479:


SmartMuffin posted...
Do you dispute that the virus originated in China, and that the Chinese government did not properly contain its spread?

No but I also dont dispute you're a white supremacist with disingenuous talking points and I won't humor you by taking you in good faith. You can fuck right off.

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SmartMuffin
07/23/20 10:23:32 AM
#480:


"Everything you say is correct but it doesn't matter because I have declared you evil."

Unsurprising that this is the level of political discourse in the current year.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:26:23 AM
#481:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Did you actually investigate smuffin's link or just take his word for it? That's exactly what's being done. Like, let me clear, Biden is racist, but I can also point out rhetorical garbage when I say it.

I mean come on. I slammed Biden over the shit he said yesterday but he's very clearly making a point about indiscriminate bigotry here. And the response is...



"How dare Biden insinuate I can't tell Asian nationalities apart! He's just spewing Chinese propoganda. I, an intellectual, am much more precise with my bigotry which justifies me blaming China for COVID."

The mental gymnastics on display here are astounding.
You are the only one here talking about blaming china dude. Need you to take a step back. All i said was dude was racist, which you apparently agree with, so simmer down.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:26:56 AM
#482:


Well muffin is talking about it now lol but im definitely not

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/20 10:30:44 AM
#483:


iiaattgg posted...
You are the only one here talking about blaming china dude. Need you to take a step back. All i said was dude was racist, which you apparently agree with, so simmer down.

iiaattgg posted...
Well muffin is talking about it now lol but im definitely not

lmao

For real though, this is what I'm talking about and why I pointed it out in the first place. On the surface, it appears reasonable. I dont blame anyone too much for not looking into it deeply. But to me it was very obviously a dogwhistle and I just pointed it out as such.

Turns out I was right, but it tricked you into thinking smuffin was the reasonable one, right? That's how it works.

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PerfectChaosZ
07/23/20 10:31:00 AM
#484:


He's also the incumbent now which gives him a massive boost and people just don't care how incompetent he is.
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SmartMuffin
07/23/20 10:33:00 AM
#485:


A dogwhistle to what?

You think I'm racist against Asians? When I openly acknowledge that they have higher IQs than whites? When I constantly refer to their success as proof that the problems of the black and hispanics communities are not properly attributed to "white supremacy?"

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:33:10 AM
#486:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
lmao

For real though, this is what I'm talking about and why I pointed it out in the first place. On the surface, it appears reasonable. I dont blame anyone too much for not looking into it deeply. But to me it was very obviously a dogwhistle and I just pointed it out as such.

Turns out I was right, but it tricked you into thinking smuffin was the reasonable one, right? That's how it works.
I may have to slow this down for you because its not processing.

All i was saying was dude is racist. I wasnt commenting on china. I wasnt commenting on muffin. I dont care about either. I dont know where you get all the you think muffin is being reasonable gotcha stuff. Youre being a little weird. Again, simmer down. Diet laserstryke over here

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/23/20 10:36:03 AM
#487:


Bro I'm not mad at you but if you keep talking down to me I will be. You're the one who engaged with my comment in the first place so I explained my logic. I understand what you're saying, and now I understand you don't care. Kindly direct your defensiveness somewhere else.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 10:40:03 AM
#488:


All good

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Lightning Strikes
07/23/20 10:56:58 AM
#489:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
He's also the incumbent now which gives him a massive boost and people just don't care how incompetent he is.

Three of the last seven defending incumbents have lost. Its far from a perfect shield.

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PerfectChaosZ
07/23/20 10:59:18 AM
#490:


I stopped worrying last time before the election so I'm not gonna be hopeful till the day after. lol
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guffguy89
07/23/20 11:04:28 AM
#491:


Left: Focuses solely on unidentified special agents rounding up citizens, ignores issues surrounding looting and property damage from protests

Right: Focuses solely on issues surrounding looting and property damage from protests, ignores unidentified special agents rounding up citizens

Correct: Condemning both unidentified special agents rounding up citizens AND looting and property damage from protests


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Corrik7
07/23/20 11:09:28 AM
#492:


guffguy89 posted...
Left: Focuses solely on unidentified special agents rounding up citizens, ignores issues surrounding looting and property damage from protests

Right: Focuses solely on issues surrounding looting and property damage from protests, ignores unidentified special agents rounding up citizens

Correct: Condemning both unidentified special agents rounding up citizens AND looting and property damage from protests
I don't know how they are unidentified. They said just recently they were removed their names from their uniforms and putting badge numbers because 37+ have been doxxed and had their families threatened. Just the other day their building was attacked. At some point you can just admit the protests going on in Portland are not peaceful. If they were, they wouldn't be there.

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Peace___Frog
07/23/20 11:10:06 AM
#493:


guffguy89 posted...
Correct: Condemning both unidentified special agents rounding up citizens AND looting and property damage from protests
Nope still wrong, good talk though

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Jakyl25
07/23/20 11:30:44 AM
#494:


Corrik7 posted...
They said just recently they were removed their names from their uniforms and putting badge numbers because 37+ have been doxxed and had their families threatened.


Found the issue
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Dancedreamer
07/23/20 11:31:10 AM
#495:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
I stopped worrying last time before the election so I'm not gonna be hopeful till the day after. lol

It might be a week, this time. Given that a lot of people will be voting by mail.

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Tom Bombadil
07/23/20 12:00:50 PM
#496:


Even then I'm not sure I'm comfortable assuming Trump will leave quietly.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 12:03:58 PM
#497:


Yeah ive said before the real drama isnt who will win but whats going to happen after

Biden just needs to pre-emptively pardon the dude as i would wager trump is much more invested in not being charged than being president

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Not_an_Owl
07/23/20 12:23:36 PM
#498:


iiaattgg posted...
Biden just needs to pre-emptively pardon the dude as i would wager trump is much more invested in not being charged than being president
This is a cosmically awful idea. It sets the precedent that any obviously criminal asshole who gets elected president can get away with whatever the fuck he wants and not be charged simply by implying he might not accept the results if he loses re-election.

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 12:24:50 PM
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Not_an_Owl posted...
This is a cosmically awful idea. It sets the precedent that any obviously criminal asshole who gets elected president can get away with whatever the fuck he wants and not be charged simply by implying he might not accept the results if he loses re-election.
I agree with the basic principle but this is going to be a brutal freaking winter with covid and we dont need the bullshit

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iiaattgg
07/23/20 12:25:38 PM
#500:


And hopefully we dont elect a criminal asshole again

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