Current Events > Why Isn't California Criticized Like Texas and Florida on Covid-19?

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https://twitter.com/opinion_joe/status/1281586768136077312

https://twitter.com/opinion_joe/status/1281652174561263616

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california is doing all it can to test people
florida is going against testing and is still having a lot of cases

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Cause the media hates them

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Because the media doesn't care about the truth, unless it aids their narrative

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California was one of the first states to shit down, I think they were actually the first. They've also said and done the right things, it just hasn't worked out for them. I think it's a case of this virus being unpredictable, even being smart about it doesn't help, you need luck too.

Though I will say I've heard California mentioned a lot. No not as much as Florida or Texas, but about as much as Arizona.

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California wasn't a darling to the Redpillers who desperately wanted to promote Texas and Florida closing late / reopening early as some kind of definitive proof that liberals trashed the economy over a hoax.


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DeSantis basically said everyone owes him an apology. He bragged about how well Florida was doing. He made tons of shit that didn't need to open open. He made pro wrestling essential.

Then you have Texas, the place where the lt governor went on TV saying old people want to be sacrificed.

Whatever you have to say about Newsome he didn't make an ass out of himself or go out of his way to fuck up his state. Plus large chunks of California are red, so this slant isn't going to fly just because it is technically blue. The blue parts tend to be the cities, and those are densely populated which means they're fucked with this virus until it passes.

Texas and Florida's governors made a lot of noise about how they were boldly opening early and getting back to work. They made their early reopening deliberately political.

They (the governors) deserve to pay the political price for the gamble they made.

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Sewage posted...

DeSantis basically said everyone owes him an apology. He bragged about how well Florida was doing. He made tons of shit that didn't need to open open. He made pro wrestling essential.

Then you have Texas, the place where the lt governor went on TV saying old people want to be sacrificed.

Whatever you have to say about Newsome he didn't make an ass out of himself or go out of his way to fuck up his state. Plus large chunks of California are red, so this slant isn't going to fly just because it is technically blue. The blue parts tend to be the cities, and those are densely populated which means they're fucked with this virus until it passes.

The guy who made that article responded to this argument in the second tweet.

Therefore it's okay to ignore surges in Democratic states because their governors aren't as arrogant as DeSantis Abbott etc?

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once again the right doesnt understand how numbers work

Cases per million:

Arizona: 498
Florida: 429
Louisiana: 415
South Carolina: 314
Texas: 289
Georgia: 284
Alabama: 265
Nevada: 244
Idaho: 235
Mississippi: 228
Tennessee: 227

California: 208

https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

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TheGoldenEel posted...

once again the right doesnt understand how numbers work

Cases per million:

Arizona: 498
Florida: 429
Louisiana: 415
South Carolina: 314
Texas: 289
Georgia: 284
Alabama: 265
Nevada: 244
Idaho: 235
Mississippi: 228
Tennessee: 227

California: 208

https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

anyone who denies this or says california is just as bad is actually stupid

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After months of deliberate misinformation and downplaying the situation so they could "educate the experts," now the Redpillers want to play whataboutism.

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Outside of the protests wasn't California doing pretty well until the last few weeks? It's the most populous state. It's expected that their count would be high. Republicans have been a lot more vocal about it being a hoax and not wanting to wear masks. The numbers could have been lower by the thousands if people would have taken the lockdowns and testing seriously.

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How do the numbers per capita work out? California has a population of ~40 million whereas NY and Florida are only ~20 million each.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

once again the right doesnt understand how numbers work

Cases per million:

Arizona: 498
Florida: 429
Louisiana: 415
South Carolina: 314
Texas: 289
Georgia: 284
Alabama: 265
Nevada: 244
Idaho: 235
Mississippi: 228
Tennessee: 227

California: 208

https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

lol

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KStateKing17 posted...

Outside of the protests wasn't California doing pretty well until the last few weeks? It's the most populous state. It's expected that their count would be high. Republicans have been a lot more vocal about it being a hoax and not wanting to wear masks. The numbers could have been lower by the thousands if people would have taken the lockdowns and testing seriously.

The gross irresponsibility of Republicans during this crisis can be summarized with this one single fact:

The first time Donald Trump wore a mask in public was two days ago.


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DarkRoast posted...

The gross irresponsibility of Republicans during this crisis can be summarized with this one single fact:

The first time Donald Trump wore a mask in public was two days ago.

I wonder if his followers are going to play monkey see monkey do with him or continue to pretend that wear a mask for 10 minutes is a major risk to their health.

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California is also 1 week further "ahead" of those 3 states in the graph. If you compare them at the same point in time even Texas is almost double what California was having.
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people already posted. But yes the per capita like stats show California is nowhere near as bad as Arizona, Florida, and Texas

TheGoldenEel posted...

once again the right doesnt understand how numbers work

Cases per million:

Arizona: 498
Florida: 429
Louisiana: 415
South Carolina: 314
Texas: 289
Georgia: 284
Alabama: 265
Nevada: 244
Idaho: 235
Mississippi: 228
Tennessee: 227

California: 208

https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

wtf is going on in Arizona? I've literally heard nothing about Arizona before this topic. Granted I'm not American, but I have heard about Texas and Florida.

CloneTheHero posted...

*fart noise*

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Compare per capita, it really is the best kind of statistic when comparing how populations are faring.

California is doing far better by that metric.

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Is that actually a thing?

California has the highest proportion of uneducated people out of any US state.

Texas is bad too.

So they both deserve the rep of being the stupid states.

The_Ivory_Man posted...

California has the highest proportion of uneducated people out of any US state.

Can I get a source on this?

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Bishop9800 posted...

Can I get a source on this?

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/least-educated-state-california-no-1-percentage-residents-25-and

Texas is the second worst just to be clear, didn't really specify that in the previous comment.

The US education system is that bad huh
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man with the amount of people who hate california, you'd think the state slept with their wife or something.

what did we ever do to you all?

signed,
a californian

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/least-educated-state-california-no-1-percentage-residents-25-and

Texas is the second worst just to be clear, didn't really specify that in the previous comment.

i just research CNS news........

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cns-news/

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news.

your source is bullshit......

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/least-educated-state-california-no-1-percentage-residents-25-and

Texas is the second worst just to be clear, didn't really specify that in the previous comment.

well gee how about we increase funding for schools then

no? take them away? cuz they won't open and aren trying to make trump look bad

hmmm. make trump look bad, or kill kids... shit .. i dont know!?!?!?!

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Did that guy forget the media dumping on Andrew Cuomo for like two months?

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Bio1590 posted...

The US education system is that bad huh

Yeah it's pretty bad. That being said I dropped out myself and immediately took the GED. The college I attended paid for my books.

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The alt right are such snowflakes always crying about some thing how bout instead whining like little girls here you go whine to your politicians that are willfully being ignorant on covid

California is that kid thats trying its best but still
failing the class. Texas and Florida are those kids that skipped class because they would be rappers one day and are now working at McDonalds

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California actually made an honest attempt to limit the spread of the virus, while here in good ol' Texas, our governor has made it a habit to make the right calls only after it's way too late.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

California actually made an honest attempt to limit the spread of the virus, while here in good ol' Texas, our governor has made it a habit to make the right calls only after it's way too late.

To be fair muh freedum crowds and his lt gov actively sabotage anything he does

TheBlueMonk_ posted...

well gee how about we increase funding for schools then

Ehhh, funding for US schools isn't actually bad at all.

Just horribly mismanaged.

https://www.insider.com/how-much-countries-around-the-world-spend-on-education-2019-8

We could definitely invest more money, and schooling is obviously one of the best things to invest it.

Bishop9800 posted...

i just research CNS news........

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cns-news/

your source is bullshit......

Alright so here's the bad news, the initial census upload was removed when they reworked their website, something like Wayback should have it but it is not loading for me so I'm not sure if you want to try that.

While that site (which I just used because it was one of the first that came up) I'm sure does have a bias on other things this was reporting on data released by the US census, Wikipedia actually still has that data uploaded if you would like to view that, although that site also has bias issues, as I'm sure you are aware.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_educational_attainment

As I don't want to repeatedly post different websites which reported on it and get rejected for the sites being biased, I would encourage you to look for a source that you like that reported on the Census information. I think we would all be happy then.

Bio1590 posted...

The US education system is that bad huh

The US education system fell pretty rapidly since the 90's. I'm not actually sure why and have done very little research on the subject, but the US used to have one of the best education systems in the entire world. It has just gotten poor in the past two decades, although maybe something like not great is a better description, the US is still better than most of the world, it has just been completely removed from the competition to be the best.

TheBlueMonk_ posted...

man with the amount of people who hate california, you'd think the state slept with their wife or something.

what did we ever do to you all?

signed,
a californian

I'm from New York, so my state gets a lot of hate (although I'm pretty sure that reputation is pretty well deserved in terms of rudeness and stuff especially in NYC)

But California just constantly seems to be doing weird stuff, it gets the kind of "Florida man" style stories in the news all the time.

TC quietly disappeared after being hit with the truth

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armandro posted...

california is doing all it can to test people
florida is going against testing and is still having a lot of cases

Intelligent answer

Magyar15 posted...

Because the media doesn't care about the truth, unless it aids their narrative

Unintelligent answer

The usual hypocrisy

The_Ivory_Man posted...

Alright so here's the bad news, the initial census upload was removed when they reworked their website, something like Wayback should have it but it is not loading for me so I'm not sure if you want to try that.

While that site (which I just used because it was one of the first that came up) I'm sure does have a bias on other things this was reporting on data released by the US census, Wikipedia actually still has that data uploaded if you would like to view that, although that site also has bias issues, as I'm sure you are aware.

As I don't want to repeatedly post different websites which reported on it and get rejected for the sites being biased, I would encourage you to look for a source that you like that reported on the Census information. I think we would all be happy then.

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How about showing a site that is not fake news?

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legendarylemur posted...

TC quietly disappeared after being hit with the truth

Trump trolls usually do they have no leg to stand on always

CloneTheHero posted...

lol another self hating texan, theres a lot of you these days and its just peer pressure from delusional uneducated liberals fueling this shit lol.

news flash smart guy, california mimicked everything texas did, there was no honest attempt lol

if cali mimicked texas, why are calis numbers so much better?

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California's plan was to slow down the pandemic enough so that their hospitals wouldn't be overrun. Then they would use the 20 billion windfall to acquire more beds and ventilators so they would be prepared by the time the pandemic was in full force. After that, things would be reopened in stages. If the hospitals start getting crowded, then there would be a partial rollback to an earlier stage until more hospital beds clear up.

We were in stage 2, where restaurants, beaches, and parks would be reopened, but with only limited occupancy and with social distancing and masks still enforced. For example, when the pro-wrestler Shad of Cryme Tyme drowned, people were not allowed to sunbathe, but they could walk the beach and go into the water as long as they were following social distancing.

Unfortunately, the governor has very little power over municipal governments. For example, Newsom had to ask Malibu's mayor to close their beaches since Malibu's law enforcement would be the ones enforcing it. The only thing the governor can do short of marshal law is to threaten to withhold state funds. This may scare poorer areas, but wealthy upscale Republican areas like Orange County and Ventura County have enough money to ignore him.

TL;DR : California's governor has very little power over the cities, and the cities are acting on their own based on political party lines.

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SoCal is doing horrible with social distancing. My block in LA had to have at least 100 people on it in the 4th of July without masks. I think those 4th parties are going to kill us. Huge parties everywhere.

Orange and Ventura counties are choosing to ignore guidelines entirely. I go to Ventura a lot, and I see tons of people without masks. Both places benefit from less people, but I'm guessing it will catch up to them.

Im not sure how SD is doing because I don't really go there or know anyone there.

I think the the government is doing a fairly good job with messaging and policy (aside from opening early). People are selfish seems to be the driving issue.

CloneTheHero posted...

so much better? california has 4k more deaths than texas lol. what!?

4,000 more deaths but 10 million more people.

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Sanctuary state

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