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Tyranthraxus 07/12/20 5:03:58 PM #51: |
KCJ5062 posted...
Where the heck have you been? Watching the movie along with millions of other people. \_()_/ --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 07/12/20 5:42:31 PM #52: |
SwayM posted...
The funny thing is they already had a universe there with the Nolan films but decided to reboot it for no reason.I mean... Nolan told his story. Not everything is a grand cinematic universe. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 07/12/20 5:53:43 PM #53: |
DrizztLink posted...
It's pretty easy to DC fanboy if you stick to animation.no love for doom patrol? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 07/12/20 6:02:31 PM #54: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
A bunch of the Batman movies are fucking awesome, so they got that going on. Batman 1989, Batman Returns and The Dark Knight are the only good ones. --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 07/12/20 6:04:21 PM #55: |
Reminds me of the old meme (from before WW, obviously):
--- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 07/12/20 6:19:35 PM #56: |
rexcrk posted...
I mean... Nolan told his story. Not everything is a grand cinematic universe. This is like the third post like this in this topic. Did yall not watch The Dark Knight Rises? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 07/12/20 6:23:14 PM #57: |
SwayM posted...
This is like the third post like this in this topic. Did yall not watch The Dark Knight Rises?Maybe just to show that there would be someone else to protect Gotham? Again, not everything needs to be a grand cinematic universe. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCJ5062 07/12/20 6:24:01 PM #58: |
s0nicfan posted...
Reminds me of the old meme (from before WW, obviously): Well I think prior to Wonder Woman coming out, studios were cynical about female superhero heroes because of the failures of Catwoman and Elektra. Of course that was just a cheap excuse because the main factor of those films is that they weren't good which is why they flopped. --- It's amazing how people hang around message boards of games they don't like ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 07/12/20 6:25:59 PM #59: |
rexcrk posted...
Maybe just to show that there would be someone else to protect Gotham? Youre right not everything needs to be but if youre gonna do it u should do it right. DC had a decent framework to go off --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCJ5062 07/12/20 6:26:12 PM #60: |
SwayM posted...
This is like the third post like this in this topic. Did yall not watch The Dark Knight Rises? What would be the point of having a DCEU if the dark knight himself wasn't going to appear? --- It's amazing how people hang around message boards of games they don't like ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 07/12/20 6:29:43 PM #61: |
KCJ5062 posted...
What would be the point of having a DCEU if the dark knight himself wasn't going to appear? Who said he wouldnt. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 07/12/20 6:38:53 PM #62: |
The Dark Knight Rises was specifically made by Nolan to cut off any potential for him being asked to come back. It was most certainly a finale. Once Ledger died any cinematic universe launching off of the Nolan movies died with him.
Funnily enough GOTG3 has been Disney's biggest fumble with the MCU so far since that movie should have been pretty much done by now. Now they've gotta wait until Gunn is done with The Suicide Squad. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCJ5062 07/12/20 6:38:56 PM #63: |
SwayM posted...
Who said he wouldnt. And again, Bale stated he wasn't interested in reprising Batman afterwards. --- It's amazing how people hang around message boards of games they don't like ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/12/20 8:16:06 PM #64: |
SwayM posted...
Did we forget how the MCU got its start? Batman could've easily had the Riddler or the Penguin as his first opponent. In choosing a centuries old demon as their first antagonist and revealing that he's actually a hoax, they made deliberate point that this Batman existed in a world without science fiction elements or the supernatural. The Dark Knight Rises feels a little out of place when compared with the first film of the trilogy. The whole "raise the temperature" notion doesn't work when the series begins with a declaration that it's super-grounded. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 07/12/20 8:25:15 PM #65: |
s0nicfan posted...
Reminds me of the old meme (from before WW, obviously):I always found this meme to be so damn dumb. Like movies with talking plants and animals never been a thing --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/13/20 1:39:37 AM #66: |
The comparison to Iron Man doesn't really hold up because that movie isn't all that grounded in reality either. The Iron Man suit itself is far more unrealistic than anything in the Nolan movies.
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SwayM 07/13/20 2:23:24 AM #67: |
pegusus123456 posted...
The comparison to Iron Man doesn't really hold up because that movie isn't all that grounded in reality either. The Iron Man suit itself is far more unrealistic than anything in the Nolan movies. It is unrealistic but its explained to the audience in a way that feels somewhat grounded Its no more unrealistic then any of the technology Batman has. Remember that weird hacking scene in the Dark Knight? https://youtu.be/IRELLH86Edo Or how about just the idea of the bat suit. How a thin cape can support the frame of a 250 pound man and allow him to glide gently into the night. Theres a lot of unrealistic shit about three movies. But thats not the point. They both ground themselves enough to immerse you in their reality. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 07/13/20 2:33:09 AM #68: |
I think they could have still launched a cinematic universe after Batman Begins and TDK if they really wanted to. Superman being known to the world after the events of those movies could probably work. Especially since a theme of those movies were escalation anyway. Arrow followed a similar trajectory but that always was a cheesy CW show so people were fine with the sort of retconning that show did.
But TDKR killed it. I think that was designed on purpose. Ledger died. Bale and Nolan did one movie to wrap it up and they were done. There was no point launching a cinematic universe from them at that point. The other issue really is that Iron Man always had MCU roots in with its design. The Nolan movies never did. It was always going to be something thought of after the fact. But tbh yeah I think Warner Bros would have paid the big bucks to keep Bale and Ledger around for more movies because of how crazy successful TDK was. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/13/20 3:15:40 AM #69: |
SwayM posted...
It is unrealistic but its explained to the audience in a way that feels somewhat groundedI mean, not really. The arc reactor may as well be magic. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/13/20 3:38:01 AM #70: |
Darmik posted...
But tbh yeah I think Warner Bros would have paid the big bucks to keep Bale and Ledger around for more movies because of how crazy successful TDK was. They probably would have needed a lot of big bucks for that one. How much money do you need to bribe God? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlisLandale 07/13/20 7:25:28 AM #71: |
Honestly, a TDK meets Superman would be hella interesting, because Supermans very existence would be a nuke that totally obliterates everything that world thought it knew. Seeing how Batman and the villains of that universe react to Superman would be really cool.
But beyond that one concept story, I wouldnt be interested in a shared universe based on TDK. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThisGuyAreSick 07/13/20 7:36:09 AM #72: |
FortuneCookie posted...
Nolan Batman exists in a world where the supernatural doesn't exist and science fiction elements are kept to a minimum. It wouldn't have worked. Are we just going to ignore Iron Man 1? --- sigless ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/13/20 9:37:19 AM #73: |
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Are we just going to ignore Iron Man 1? It's pretty grounded, but the post-credits sequence hooks the fact that the other Avengers exist. Some of which are supernatural. Going by that monsters comparison I used earlier, this would be like a Phantom of the Opera movie which ends with a cameo from the vampire-hunter from Dracula. If a vampire-hunter exists, so must a vampire. And Iron Man is still a bit more far-fetched than what Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were. We have a flying man in a suit of armor. By comparison, that makes Batman's echo-location bat-summoner thing look like something that could actually exist. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 07/13/20 10:47:00 PM #74: |
TheoryzC posted...
I always found this meme to be so damn dumb. Like movies with talking plants and animals never been a thing dont get it why do you think is dumb do you know any superhero movie with talking plants and animals before the guardians of the galaxy ? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodyarts 07/13/20 10:58:50 PM #75: |
ImAMarvel posted...
I ended up hating [Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.1], but went into it with decently high expectations. [V]ol. 2 was much better imo.Same. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/13/20 11:36:37 PM #76: |
marc55 posted...
dont get it Meteor man. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 07/13/20 11:53:00 PM #77: |
The villain of Halo is a giant talking plant who speaks in riddles.
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SwayM 07/14/20 2:36:00 AM #78: |
bloodyarts posted...
Same. I completely missed this post earlier. This is a take I think Guardians 2 is tired with Hulk as the worst movie in the MCU. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 07/14/20 2:48:04 AM #79: |
marc55 posted...
dont get ita bunch of non superhero movies had both these things it's supposed to be different when it's a superhero movie? --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 07/14/20 2:58:10 AM #80: |
Darmik posted...
The villain of Halo is a giant talking plant who speaks in riddles. Sorry. What reality do you live in that anyone takes video games seriously? TheoryzC posted... a bunch of non superhero movies had both these things How do you not get this? Its been talked about 2 or 3 times now in this topic. The MCU was built on a very grounded depiction of super heroes. The idea of bringing a talking tree and raccoon into the fold was a leap to say the least. One of the biggest gambles and payoffs in movie history though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/14/20 3:31:49 AM #81: |
SwayM posted...
The MCU was built on a very grounded depiction of super heroesIt wasn't though. Even if we agree with you that Iron Man is as grounded as the Nolan Batman movies, it still had the post-credits hook to indicate that this world is not as grounded as it was initially portrayed. It was indicating from the very beginning that there was a bigger, most fantastical world. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 07/14/20 3:50:43 AM #82: |
pegusus123456 posted...
It wasn't though. Even if we agree with you that Iron Man is as grounded as the Nolan Batman movies, it still had the post-credits hook to indicate that this world is not as grounded as it was initially portrayed. It was indicating from the very beginning that there was a bigger, most fantastical world. Were not that far off the same page here. Theres a reason why Iron Man never saw Fin Fang Foom or a comic accurate depiction of the Manderin. There was a barrier of disbelief that the MCU rode, and probably still exists to some extent. Even characters like Mysterio have been given an MCU spin to make them work in this Universe. The road to get to things like Dr Strange, Ant Man, Guardians, etc has been a slow methodical one. Yeah it was set up to go places. But it never shot its wad too early. Its not hard to see that Feige and whoever else is orchestrating the MCU wants the films to have weigh so its not complete mindless bullshit (what the haters would have you believe anyway). Theyre structured and paced out so the suspension of disbelief in this Universe wasnt immediately shattered by something so out to lunch. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Teh_Dr_Phil 07/14/20 3:51:51 AM #83: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
A bunch of the Batman movies are fucking awesome, so they got that going on.They have two good ones and they both came from Nolan. --- Yep. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Looked gf 07/14/20 4:07:08 AM #84: |
TheoryzC posted...
I always found this meme to be so damn dumb. Like movies with talking plants and animals never been a thing Way to miss the point lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 07/14/20 4:08:44 AM #85: |
What was grounded about The Incredible Hulk? That's the second movie in the MCU universe. Thor was also in the first wave of movies.
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TheoryzC 07/14/20 4:40:07 AM #86: |
Looked gf posted...
Way to miss the point lolI get the point completely Making a Wonder Woman movie shouldn't have been seen as risky but at they same time people need to stop with the talking tree/talking raccoon shit as if thats a risk to have both those things in a movie. And that says more about the meme then what people should people should be talking about which is Marvel taking a chance on a super unknown property of theres --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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