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Doe
07/04/20 12:10:58 AM
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What the fuck



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PikachuMaxwell
07/04/20 12:11:50 AM
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I guess that's how multi-layered people are....

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viewmaster_pi
07/04/20 12:12:15 AM
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he was always a normal guy, he just got too into the "villain" bit in the beginning

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viewmaster_pi
07/04/20 12:12:33 AM
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PikachuMaxwell posted...
I guess that's how multi-layered people are....
he's an ogre

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PikachuMaxwell
07/04/20 12:13:23 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
he's an ogre

Haha! Yep!

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Doe
07/04/20 12:16:19 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
he was always a normal guy, he just got too into the "villain" bit in the beginning
I dunno I was introduced to Leffen via the Leffen v Chillen 5-0 which was the Smash equivalent of a DBZ villain introduction

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EnragedSlith
07/04/20 12:17:47 AM
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why, what has he done?

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Doe
07/04/20 12:36:16 AM
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EnragedSlith posted...
why, what has he done?
Well he used to maintain a persona of being an upstart in the community who would beat all the 'Melee old gods' aka the best players. For various reasons he became known as kind of a jerk. More recently though he's cut that down and had stunts like protesting the weak pay split to runner up players at EVO. Now since he's one of the best players himself and is one of the biggest smash streamers and has no allegations in him, he's de facto in a position to take charge of the community amidst all the MeToo stuff, and he's doing that.

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ChocoboMog123
07/04/20 12:54:37 AM
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He used to trash talk like CRAZY. He still does, sometimes, especially on twitter, but not nearly like before. It used to be so toxic that he was banned from tournaments for it: https://smashboards.com/threads/leffen-is-banned.333990/

Dunno about HungryBox being a jerk. I've met him (FL) and he acted like any guy trying really hard to be the best. He's also kind of a villain character, but he plays Puff so people cut him less slack than Leffen even though he probably trains just as hard.

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The_Scarecrow
07/04/20 1:58:05 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
He used to trash talk like CRAZY. He still does, sometimes, especially on twitter, but not nearly like before. It used to be so toxic that he was banned from tournaments for it: https://smashboards.com/threads/leffen-is-banned.333990/

Dunno about HungryBox being a jerk. I've met him (FL) and he acted like any guy trying really hard to be the best. He's also kind of a villain character, but he plays Puff so people cut him less slack than Leffen even though he probably trains just as hard.

Leffen is at his best when he's bitching on Twitter in my opinion.

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Iron-Tarkus
07/04/20 2:02:44 AM
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He was a good heel

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_Raich_
07/04/20 2:04:54 AM
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He still is a bit of a shithead at times, but it's kept to competition and the games themselves.

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