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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/30/20 12:42:24 AM
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Trump and Russias Vladimir Putin Spoke Five Times in Just Three Weeks in an Unusual Amount of Communication

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1057400/trump-putin-spoke-five-times-three-weeks-unusual-communication/



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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/30/20 12:45:24 AM
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Why would I trust this

lying
unqualified
draft dodging
gold star family disrespecting
POW attacking
US General insulting
racist
sexist
vulgar
confirmed sexual assaulting
trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting
own daughter creeping
wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election
$413 million dollar inheritance getting
teen pageant dressing room invading
baby and mother separating
breast feeding mother shaming
fat-shaming while being fat
17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting
accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying
university student defrauding
bankrupt casino causing
kids cancer charity stealing
taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having
wife-beating
popular vote losing
anti-vaxxing
publicist impersonating
tax dodging
friends wives pursuing
impeached
foreign aid bribing
giving up US Military bases to Syria and Russian
Selling his house in Florida to a Russian for $100 million when no one was else was buying it for that price

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OniRonin
06/30/20 12:46:23 AM
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wow 5 whole times in 3 weeks, spooky. why have liberals all turned into glenn beck

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Krazy_Kirby
06/30/20 1:21:18 AM
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someone dusted off an alt
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Lil69Leo
06/30/20 3:30:15 AM
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OniRonin posted...
wow 5 whole times in 3 weeks, spooky. why have liberals all turned into glenn beck

Imagine being a traitor to your country and you still have fans.
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ClarkDuke
06/30/20 4:24:50 AM
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i'm sure the calls weren't about anything suspicious. donald trump is just checking the status of his application for russian citizenship, ok?

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papercup
06/30/20 9:40:32 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Why would I trust this

lying
unqualified
draft dodging
gold star family disrespecting
POW attacking
US General insulting
racist
sexist
vulgar
confirmed sexual assaulting
trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting
own daughter creeping
wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election
$413 million dollar inheritance getting
teen pageant dressing room invading
baby and mother separating
breast feeding mother shaming
fat-shaming while being fat
17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting
accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying
university student defrauding
bankrupt casino causing
kids cancer charity stealing
taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having
wife-beating
popular vote losing
anti-vaxxing
publicist impersonating
tax dodging
friends wives pursuing
impeached
foreign aid bribing
giving up US Military bases to Syria and Russian
Selling his house in Florida to a Russian for $100 million when no one was else was buying it for that price

Don't forget he also gave Russia the okay to put bounties on US soldiers

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EvilMegas
06/30/20 10:13:10 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Why would I trust this

lying
unqualified
draft dodging
gold star family disrespecting
POW attacking
US General insulting
racist
sexist
vulgar
confirmed sexual assaulting
trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting
own daughter creeping
wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election
$413 million dollar inheritance getting
teen pageant dressing room invading
baby and mother separating
breast feeding mother shaming
fat-shaming while being fat
17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting
accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying
university student defrauding
bankrupt casino causing
kids cancer charity stealing
taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having
wife-beating
popular vote losing
anti-vaxxing
publicist impersonating
tax dodging
friends wives pursuing
impeached
foreign aid bribing
giving up US Military bases to Syria and Russian
Selling his house in Florida to a Russian for $100 million when no one was else was buying it for that price
You obviously forgot the pros outweigh the cons.

Pros:
Joe Biden was racist 50 years ago.
Joe Biden may possibly have engaged in sexual harassment at one point, but probably not since the witness can keep her claims straight.
Hillary. Clinton's. Emails.

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Cacciato
06/30/20 10:23:02 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
someone dusted off an alt
Apparently you havent been here as long as you think you have
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Nichtcrawler X
06/30/20 10:24:51 AM
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World Leaders have been communicating more in this pandemic.

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Unusual Amount of Communication

Well, we live in an unusual situation.

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OniRonin
06/30/20 10:26:21 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Imagine being a traitor to your country and you still have fans.
Lmao yeah I'm a huge trump fan for pointing out that two world leaders talking to each other isn't suspicious.

Also there's nothing wrong with being a traitor to the United States - look at ppl like Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, and John Brown. There's tons of traitors that I think everyone should Be a fan of

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ClarkDuke
06/30/20 6:40:04 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
World Leaders have been communicating more in this pandemic.

Well, we live in an unusual situation.
what a cop out. this isn't high school debate class, try harder, ok?

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DirtBasedSoap
06/30/20 6:53:04 PM
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OniRonin posted...
for pointing out that two world leaders talking to each other isn't suspicious.
oni ronin said nothing weird is happening so he must be right

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Nichtcrawler X
06/30/20 7:51:24 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
what a cop out. this isn't high school debate class, try harder, ok?

Do I need to seek more behind it? World Leaders talking openly is a good thing.

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OniRonin
06/30/20 8:24:26 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
oni ronin said nothing weird is happening so he must be right
learn to read please

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Mead
06/30/20 8:31:04 PM
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Oh so now Putin cant even read Trump his bedtime story?!

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DirtBasedSoap
06/30/20 9:10:06 PM
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OniRonin posted...
learn to read please

OniRonin posted...
pointing out that two world leaders talking to each other isn't suspicious.

learn to read please

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OniRonin
06/30/20 11:28:03 PM
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"isn't suspicious"
"nothing weird is happening"

do these mean the same thing to you, little babey

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OniRonin
06/30/20 11:28:47 PM
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for example, it isnt suspicious that i talk to my best friend alot but there are defenitely weird things happening

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Smarkil
07/01/20 12:29:19 AM
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wtf he cant do this!!!

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Yellow
07/01/20 12:31:35 AM
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Conspiracy bunk

I hate the guy but he did not conspire with russia, that is straight DNC apologism

As evidenced by the fact that Russia is waging price warfare on us through Saudi Arabia by pressuring them to lower their oil prices to a price we can't compete with. (Why our gas prices are currently ~$2 a gallon)

There's zero evidence that Russia influenced our elections. Actually zero. No hacking of our booths or anything. That wouldn't even make any sense. You would just outsource the software to India and give them some sketchy undocumented requests on backdoors and such (Like how Buttigieg rigged the Iowa primaries)

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OniRonin
07/01/20 1:08:57 AM
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Yellow posted...
Conspiracy bunk

I hate the guy but he did not conspire with russia, that is straight DNC apologism

As evidenced by the fact that Russia is waging price warfare on us through Saudi Arabia by pressuring them to lower their oil prices to a price we can't compete with. (Why our gas prices are currently ~$2 a gallon)

There's zero evidence that Russia influenced our elections. Actually zero. No hacking of our booths or anything. That wouldn't even make any sense. You would just outsource the software to India and give them some sketchy undocumented requests on backdoors and such (Like how Buttigieg rigged the Iowa primaries)
but yellow, they bought 100,000 dollars of facebook ads!!! so much money

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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 1:20:56 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Do I need to seek more behind it? World Leaders talking openly is a good thing.
lol, okay, ok?

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FatalAccident
07/01/20 2:01:14 AM
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I dont see the issue

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/01/20 4:50:53 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
someone dusted off an alt
Me?

Lil69Leo posted...
Imagine being a traitor to your country and you still have fans.
Theres plenty here thatll excuse it.

ClarkDuke posted...
i'm sure the calls weren't about anything suspicious. donald trump is just checking the status of his application for russian citizenship, ok?
Lol.

papercup posted...
Don't forget he also gave Russia the okay to put bounties on US soldiers
Oops. This list is gonna get longer before the election and his apologists will excuse it.

EvilMegas posted...
You obviously forgot the pros outweigh the cons.

Pros:
Joe Biden was racist 50 years ago.
Joe Biden may possibly have engaged in sexual harassment at one point, but probably not since the witness can keep her claims straight.
Hillary. Clinton's. Emails.
Those damn emails...

Cacciato posted...
Apparently you havent been here as long as you think you have
It sounds like something Zeus would say tbh.

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Yellow
07/01/20 11:48:13 AM
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OniRonin posted...
but yellow, they bought 100,000 dollars of facebook ads!!! so much money
I don't really have a good response to that tbh. I never heard about that.

I mostly heard about these "troll farms originating in Russia", I'll have to look up this though.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/01/20 3:02:39 PM
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Cacciato posted...

Apparently you havent been here as long as you think you have


629 karma on a 2014 account
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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 6:14:46 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
629 karma on a 2014 account
i feel like you're an icoyar post, ok?

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Mead
07/01/20 6:28:13 PM
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Yellow posted...
There's zero evidence that Russia influenced our elections. Actually zero. No hacking of our booths or anything.

pretty much every US intelligence agency says that you are incorrect

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/us/politics/russia-trump-manafort-flynn.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/us/politics/cia-judgment-intelligence-russia-hacking-evidence.html

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national


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OniRonin
07/01/20 6:37:48 PM
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Mead posted...
pretty much every US intelligence agency says that you are incorrect
wow, the US intelligence community says so. They seem trustworthy :-)

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Mead
07/01/20 6:39:56 PM
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OniRonin posted...
wow, the US intelligence community says so. They seem trustworthy :-)

moreso than facebook

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OniRonin
07/01/20 6:41:10 PM
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Mead posted...
moreso than facebook
http://iraqwar.com/

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Mead
07/01/20 6:42:40 PM
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OniRonin posted...
http://iraqwar.com/



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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 6:44:06 PM
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OniRonin posted...
wow, the US intelligence community says so. They seem trustworthy :-)
they are, definitely more trustworthy than putin and the taliban, ok?

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OniRonin
07/01/20 6:51:17 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
they are, definitely more trustworthy than putin and the taliban, ok?
no lol. just like the taliban, they will lie whenever it suits their interest. look at the cold war, the iraq war, prism, mk ultra, the situation in bolivia with evo, the assassination of martin luther king jr.,....

i doubt you can point out a single lie the taliban has told, lol

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OhhhJa
07/01/20 6:54:06 PM
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OniRonin posted...
no lol. just like the taliban, they will lie whenever it suits their interest. look at the cold war, the iraq war, prism, mk ultra, the situation in bolivia with evo, the assassination of martin luther king jr.,....

i doubt you can point out a single lie the taliban has told, lol
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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 6:54:51 PM
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OniRonin posted...
no lol. just like the taliban, they will lie whenever it suits their interest. look at the cold war, the iraq war, prism, mk ultra, the situation in bolivia with evo, the assassination of martin luther king jr.,....

i doubt you can point out a single lie the taliban has told, lol
this was like a t-shirt gun full of crazy theories, ok?

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OniRonin
07/01/20 6:57:07 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
this was like a t-shirt gun full of crazy theories, ok?
do you care to actually argue against any of them. just pick whichever one you want, where you think theres the least evidence that the USIC wilfully misled the public.

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OniRonin
07/01/20 6:59:05 PM
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or try to point out to me how the taliban lies even more often. id love to discuss either one lol

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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 7:02:15 PM
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OniRonin posted...
do you care to actually argue against any of them. just pick whichever one you want, where you think theres the least evidence that the USIC wilfully misled the public.
you listed 6 new topics that you want to argue about for some reason, diverting attention from the actual topic, so you appear incapable of staying on topic, ok?

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OniRonin
07/01/20 7:04:15 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
you listed 6 new topics that you want to argue about for some reason, diverting attention from the actual topic, so you appear incapable of staying on topic, ok?
pick any of them. or don't and just back off. you implied im a wingnut conspiracy theoriest when you clearly don't know the first thing about the subject at hand. it's bizarre to me that you want to trust the USIC's reporting but don't want to learn more about allegations that they've lied in the past.

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ClarkDuke
07/01/20 7:06:12 PM
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OhhhJa
07/01/20 7:09:05 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
you listed 6 new topics that you want to argue about for some reason, diverting attention from the actual topic, so you appear incapable of staying on topic, ok?
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Yellow
07/01/20 7:13:11 PM
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Hold on a second... why are people calling this Russian hacking?

If Russia contributed $100,000 to the Trump campaign, that's called international bribery. That's not hacking. Not even close. Somehow this one little fact, the entire basis of the "collusion" argument, evaded me for the last 4 years. Because I did not hear it once. I blame myself and I also blame other people for not arguing well, instead saying "X person says it's really convincing"

Fuck guys if grandpa would have stopped misusing the word "hack" for a second I probably would have taken you seriously a lot sooner. Hacking implies exploiting some software. (and no, don't try to stretch that definition)

So Russian hackers = no.
International bribery specifically involving Russia = yes or no depending on which mafia you want to trust.

I will give you guys a concrete example of Trump taking bribes from Saudi Arabia.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/oct/18/donald-trump/donald-trumps-claim-no-financial-interests-saudi-a/
Even as president, Trump hotels continue to earn business from Saudi interests, reports show.
Groups lobbying on behalf of the Saudi government spent $270,000 at Trumps Washington hotel, according to a Washington Post investigation. The bill included some $190,000 for rooms, $78,000 spent on catering and $1,600 for parking, according to lobbyist filings.
"The bill was ultimately paid by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia," the Post reported.
A separate Washington Post investigation found that visits to Trump hotels by big-spending Saudis were responsible for a revenue bump.
A letter obtained by the Post from the general manager of the Trump International Hotel in Manhattan said "a last-minute visit to New York by the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia" had been a major factor in a 13 percent bump in revenue from room rentals for the first three months of 2018 after two years of declining figures.
The Post reported that while the Crown Prince did not personally stay at the hotel, accommodating his accompanying travelers for a five-day stay in March "was enough to boost the hotels revenue for the entire quarter."

This one is proven beyond a doubt. This was directly before his $8b weapons deal with them.

Mind you while I will take $100,000 of Russian money supposedly going to Trump ads as collusion, I don't think it was the biggest reason why Trump won, and is often used to excuse Hillary Clinton.

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OniRonin
07/01/20 7:22:04 PM
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Yellow posted...
Hold on a second... why are people calling this Russian hacking?

If Russia contributed $100,000 to the Trump campaign, that's called international bribery. That's not hacking. Not even close. Somehow this one little fact, the entire basis of the "collusion" argument, evaded me for the last 4 years. Because I did not hear it once. I blame myself and I also blame other people for not arguing well, instead saying "X person says it's really convincing"
the hacking is a different allegation than spending money on ads (AFAIK theres no allegation that the russian govt contributed to the trump campaign -- they ran their own ads. there are some russian bureaucrats who illegally contribiuted so maybe you could make a case there ). there's pretty compelling evidence IMO that the IRA (the agency who placed the ads) worked with the russian government. the claim that it was directly ordered by putin seems like a USIC fabrication though, im not aware of any independent verification of htat

the hacking allegations aren't even about hacking the election - there's a few different claims here
  1. russian involvemnet in the guccifer leaks
  2. hacking PII about donors from DNC servers


Yellow posted...
Mind you while I will take $100,000 of Russian money supposedly going to Trump ads as collusion, I don't think it was the biggest reason why Trump won, and is often used to excuse Hillary Clinton.
i agree with this. its bad, but I doubt it had much of an impact and the way democrats focus on it given the scope of all the other, much more horrible shit trump has done, is embarassing. it's like they just need an excuse for losing. 100k of ads in a presidential election is almost nothing (my post earlier about this was sarcastic, if it wasnt clear lol)

otoh the guccifer leaks may have had a bigger impact, but it's tough for me to be mad about those. i just wish somebody would hack the RNC servers too

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Cacciato
07/01/20 7:22:45 PM
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OniRonin posted...
no lol. just like the taliban, they will lie whenever it suits their interest. look at the cold war, the iraq war, prism, mk ultra, the situation in bolivia with evo, the assassination of martin luther king jr.,....

i doubt you can point out a single lie the taliban has told, lol
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Yellow
07/01/20 7:46:43 PM
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OniRonin posted...
the hacking allegations aren't even about hacking the election - there's a few different claims here
russian involvemnet in the guccifer leaks
hacking PII about donors from DNC servers
Ok now it's coming back to me here. There was also that.

OniRonin posted...
i just wish somebody would hack the RNC servers too
I remember the wikileaks guy wouldn't say who gave him the data, but he was heavily invested in Hillary not winning and he was very open about that.

It was through his leaks that we learned Hillary's close ties to the DNC primaries. I am grateful that we learned this but it would have definitely been less of a targeted thing if we also got RNC emails.

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OniRonin
07/01/20 7:54:07 PM
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Yellow posted...
I remember the wikileaks guy wouldn't say who gave him the data, but he was heavily invested in Hillary not winning and he was very open about that.

It was through his leaks that we learned Hillary's close ties to the DNC primaries. I am grateful that we learned this but it would have definitely been less of a targeted thing if we also got RNC emails.
the other factor here is that the DNC cybersecurity was fucking horrible and one of hillary's top advisors fell for pretty blatant spearphishing because one of their IT consultants told him it was a legitimate email. lmao. it seems just as plausible to me that other actors have tried to phish the RNC and jsut havent succeeded yet

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/34899

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/05/20 9:32:03 PM
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Cacciato posted...
whenever you say stupid shit like this it really makes me miss when you had me blocked.
He could be one of Zeus 50+ alts just trolling.

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