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DarthAragorn
07/30/20 11:43:15 AM
#202:


JE19426 posted...
A common theory on the subreddit (which I don't quite agree with but can understand) is that Thomas was trying to warn Harry that he shouldn't trust Justine, the idea being that she has been infected by nemisis.

I don't have any particular ideas on the second theory, other than it maybe being Lord Raith, who basically discovered that Malcolm was the dude who "stole" his girlfriend. Lord Raith strikes me as the kind of guy who would kill someone for that.
First one makes some sense though I'd wonder how and why she was infected and not say Lara Raith or someone that could replace her

Second one, I would think he would have mentioned it in Blood Rites if that were the case
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DarthAragorn
07/30/20 11:47:59 AM
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Also also, has there been any news about a new TV adaptation? I remember hearing something about it being a possibility a year or two ago but nothing since. I just heard Shinedown's 45 again recently and it reminded me of that scene in Cold Days and goddamn I would love to get a faithful adaptation of these books.
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JE19426
07/30/20 2:27:53 PM
#204:


DarthAragorn posted...
First one makes some sense though I'd wonder how and why she was infected and not say Lara Raith or someone that could replace her

I mean there have been multiple Coup attempts in the White Court, Nemesis has attempt to replace Lara. As to why it hasn't infected Lara, I suspect you have to agree to me infected, at least in part, which I think is why Maeve and Lea had to agree to be purged of Nemesis.
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cheese_dragon
07/30/20 3:41:34 PM
#205:


Finally starting Skin game tonight. I thought the longer short stories have been better than the shorter ones were at the beginning of brief cases. Kinda wish I had read bombshell prior to ghost story but oh well. Not a biggie.
Will be nice at the end of the month to finally be caught up.

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DrizztLink
07/30/20 4:58:55 PM
#206:


JE19426 posted...
I mean there have been multiple Coup attempts in the White Court, Nemesis has attempt to replace Lara. As to why it hasn't infected Lara, I suspect you have to agree to me infected, at least in part, which I think is why Maeve and Lea had to agree to be purged of Nemesis.
Not so sure.

Justine being infected makes sense and I am KICKING myself for not catching it, but I really doubt you have to agree to be infected. Ain't a goddamn chance Cait Sith would have willingly betrayed Winter. Dude almost fought his way back from Nemesis on the boat at the end of Cold Days, duty is his lifeblood.

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JE19426
07/31/20 5:59:00 AM
#207:


Cold days spoilers:

DrizztLink posted...
Ain't a goddamn chance Cait Sith would have willingly betrayed Winter. Dude almost fought his way back from Nemesis on the boat at the end of Cold Days, duty is his lifeblood.

I'm not so about that. He seems to actively goes out to obey Dresden's orders in the most malicious way possible. He continuously states how much he hates working for Dresden, and to me at least seems to only be willing to work fore Dresden as he is obliged to.
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DrizztLink
07/31/20 7:55:33 AM
#208:


JE19426 posted...
Cold days spoilers:

I'm not so about that. He seems to actively goes out to obey Dresden's orders in the most malicious way possible. He continuously states how much he hates working for Dresden, and to me at least seems to only be willing to work fore Dresden as he is obliged to.
Well, of course he's a jackass about following orders to the letter. He's a Fae. His opinion of Harry doesn't affect his loyalty to Mab. Again, trying to take an order from Harry gets him closer to shaking off Nemesis than anyone we've ever seen.

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JE19426
07/31/20 8:23:41 AM
#209:


Cold days spoilers:

DrizztLink posted...
Well, of course he's a jackass about following orders to the letter. He's a Fae. His opinion of Harry doesn't affect his loyalty to Mab. Again, trying to take an order from Harry gets him closer to shaking off Nemesis than anyone we've ever seen.

There's a difference between sticking to the letter of the order, and actively being malicious about it. It doesn't effect his loyalty (unless he agreed to corruption), but it shows he seems to oppose her decision, it's hardly a jump to suspect he could go to opposing her will. Lea get further to shaken off Nemesis than Cait Sith. Hell there aren't many mayor characters that have been corrupted. He gets close than Aurora and Maeve, but that isn't saying much.
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DrizztLink
07/31/20 9:39:34 AM
#210:


JE19426 posted...
Cold days spoilers:

There's a difference between sticking to the letter of the order, and actively being malicious about it. It doesn't effect his loyalty (unless he agreed to corruption), but it shows he seems to oppose her decision, it's hardly a jump to suspect he could go to opposing her will. Lea get further to shaken off Nemesis than Cait Sith. Hell there aren't many mayor characters that have been corrupted. He gets close than Aurora and Maeve, but that isn't saying much.
More CD spoilers:

Did he ever get truly malicious about it, though? The closest I can think of is shredding that security dude's leg, and even Harry isn't certain that was cruelty so much as just Getting The Job Done. They needed a distraction, he distracted, and everyone lived. Something tells me Sith's usual idea of distraction is "nobody responds to the alarm if there's nobody alive to respond."

But all in all I just don't think agreement is something Nemesis needs. It gets a chance, it takes you.

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JE19426
07/31/20 10:32:06 AM
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Cold Days soilers:

DrizztLink posted...
The closest I can think of is shredding that security dude's leg, and even Harry isn't certain that was cruelty so much as just Getting The Job Done. They needed a distraction, he distracted, and everyone lived. Something tells me Sith's usual idea of distraction is "nobody responds to the alarm if there's nobody alive to respond."

I think Harry is pretty clearly wrong in this case, I mean he was told not to cause significant bodily harm, shredding an dude's leg seems like more than going by the letter of the order.

But all in all I just don't think agreement is something Nemesis needs. It gets a chance, it takes you.

If this is the case, why hasn't it infected everyone? What's the limit on how quickly it can spread. They have to agree in part, in my opinion is a better explanation for why it hasn't infected everyone. If this is the case it needs to understand what it can offer them to get them to agree to the corruption, furthermore it mirrors really well with the "you have to agree to be purified". Why does everyone infected seem to love doing what it wants? The most obvious reason to me is that they have no mind of their own, but if that is the case, how can people agree to be purified.
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DrizztLink
07/31/20 8:58:39 PM
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DarthAragorn
07/31/20 9:29:49 PM
#213:


Yeah I've gotta agree with DrizztLink here, I don't see Cait Sith agreeing to be infected. And the scene with him trying to shake it off implies that to me too.

I think the answer to this will probably come when we find out more about Bianca's masquerade ball and the trade Lea made. Which is possibly gonna come in the book after Battle Ground if that's still Mirror Mirror and the premise I've heard about it is true.
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cheese_dragon
07/31/20 10:33:14 PM
#214:


DrizztLink posted...
Agree to disagree, I suppose.

Any updates from the guys catching up?

@cheese_dragon

100 pages into Skin Game now, really enjoying it. Dresden having to work for the Denarians is awesome. Going hiking and then celebrating my moms birthday tomorrow so wont be getting much more reading done until Sunday.

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DarthAragorn
08/01/20 12:50:56 AM
#215:


Skin Game is a real fun read. I love those kinds of plots in general.
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cheese_dragon
08/01/20 7:58:23 AM
#216:


Yeah I have a feeling itll end up being at the top of my list somewhere

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