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Scotty_Rogers
06/16/20 11:59:42 PM
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Let's see what the general consensus is.

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Odoylerules
06/17/20 12:00:20 AM
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This is a CE topic
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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 12:00:46 AM
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Yes that bullshit is pedophilia

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mcpwnia
06/17/20 12:03:15 AM
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CommunismFTW
06/17/20 12:06:43 AM
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mcpwnia posted...
yes


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MarthGoomba
06/17/20 12:08:13 AM
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All lolicon needs to be banned
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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 4:24:39 PM
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Bump

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Zikten
06/17/20 4:26:02 PM
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it's fictional. as long as they don't move to real stuff, I don't see the problem. like Japan said to the UN "you do realize this shit is fake right?"

im not in favor putting people in prison because they looked at some drawings of people that don't exist
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TheRealDill2000
06/17/20 4:26:10 PM
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I don't see how the 2 are comparable.
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Hop103
06/17/20 4:28:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-i5s08pYDE
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Mareen
06/17/20 4:33:10 PM
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Not necessarily.

I think it's pretty suspect and strange but as long as the person(s) in question sticks purely to the drawings then I don't see the harm.


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p-m
06/17/20 4:35:12 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
All lolicon needs to be banned
You've posted it yourself plenty of times and spoke about your love for lolis.

Yes it is paedophilia

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MarthGoomba
06/17/20 4:37:18 PM
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p-m posted...
You've posted it yourself plenty of times and spoke about your love for lolis.

I've never posted lolicon

Lolis are to be protected, not subjected to horrific garbage. I have ALWAYS advocated for the banning of lolicon trash
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p-m
06/17/20 4:38:08 PM
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Calling a character a loli means you find them sexually attractive, there's no getting away from that simple fact

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Calwings
06/17/20 4:38:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
it's fictional. as long as they don't move to real stuff, I don't see the problem. like Japan said to the UN "you do realize this shit is fake right?"

im not in favor putting people in prison because they looked at some drawings of people that don't exist

Mareen posted...
I think it's pretty suspect and strange but as long as the person(s) in question sticks purely to the drawings then I don't see the harm.

This. It's definitely weird, but unless they move on to doing the same with real people, it's harmless.

MarthGoomba posted...
Lolis are to be protected

Also this though. Lolis are meant for headpats and hugs.
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K181
06/17/20 4:41:42 PM
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I wouldn't be in favor of prosecuting over cartoons, especially if having access to proof that anime was a mistake is a stopgap against them actually being pedophillic, but people that look at that shit should be on a list just in case.

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MarthGoomba
06/17/20 4:41:53 PM
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p-m posted...
Calling a character a loli means you find them sexually attractive, there's no getting away from that simple fact

Wrong

Both shota and loli simply refer to young/short males/females. It is the con part added to it that is the corruption and sexualization of it
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p-m
06/17/20 4:43:32 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Wrong

Both shota and loli simply refer to young/short males/females. It is the con part added to it that is the corruption and sexualization of it
Bullshit. Loli comes from lolita, a term used by paedophiles coming from the novel Lolita about a paedophile.

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Offworlder1
06/17/20 4:47:51 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Yes that bullshit is pedophilia


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MarthGoomba
06/17/20 4:55:00 PM
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p-m posted...
Bullshit. Loli comes from lolita, a term used by paedophiles coming from the novel Lolita about a paedophile.

It's not bullshit... it's literally how the terminology works.

Think of other terms like siscon or brocon. The con part of these terms are what is fethisizing these things.

I've heard shota and loli used by Japanese people, and it's not for sexualization. Voice actors joke about Yuki Aoi being a loli, simply because she is really short for her age (145cm), and it has nothing to do with sexualizing her.
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The Wheelman1
06/17/20 4:59:01 PM
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Yes. Geting off to children in any capacity is pedophilia. Cartoon or not.

However, that does not mean they want to actively molest kids. they use it as an outlet for those desires. Alot of pedos use lolicon as an alternative to real CP.

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MyMainAccount
06/17/20 4:59:29 PM
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Ignorance of the source of the word isn't an excuse. It's literally from the novel Lolita. Lolita is a little girl the main character is sexually attracted to. What part of "loli" sounds like a word that would have originated in Japan?

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Turbam
06/17/20 5:01:05 PM
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This argument never goes well.
People just go back and forth about it nonstop and neither party ends up changing their mind in the end.

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RetsuZaiZen
06/17/20 5:02:16 PM
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Wait, this is a debate?

How is it not?

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MyMainAccount
06/17/20 5:06:10 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
Wait, this is a debate?

How is it not?

Because denial is not just a river in Egypt.

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nemu
06/17/20 5:10:55 PM
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I cannot imagine sexual fetishes conform to reality that much. Having unfortunately seen a gore-themed porn suicide topic, I do not realistically think that any of those drawings reflect someone's real life intent. People should definitely be free to heavily judge people's fetishes, but acting as if it's more than that is kind of pointless prudishness.
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COVxy
06/17/20 5:13:18 PM
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It's almost certainly stemming from the same desire. I understand why people would want to distance themselves from the term though.

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Gamerguymass
06/17/20 5:18:42 PM
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MyMainAccount posted...
Ignorance of the source of the word isn't an excuse. It's literally from the novel Lolita. Lolita is a little girl the main character is sexually attracted to. What part of "loli" sounds like a word that would have originated in Japan?

I'm guessing you have never actually read Lolita have you? If you had you would know she is anything but a "little girl."

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COVxy
06/17/20 5:20:01 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...

Lol, this dude...

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myzz7
06/17/20 5:20:22 PM
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is it animal abuse if i draw horses being whipped to death? no?

same logic here. drawing =/= the action.

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COVxy
06/17/20 5:20:51 PM
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myzz7 posted...
is it animal abuse if i draw horses being whipped to death? no?

same logic here. drawing =/= the action.

Pedophilia doesn't refer to an action...

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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 5:21:03 PM
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myzz7 posted...
is it animal abuse if i draw horses being whipped to death? no?

same logic here. drawing =/= the action.

If youre turned by loli/shota your a pedophile

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DirkDiggles
06/17/20 5:23:37 PM
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If I spank Scotty_Rogers mom during rough anal sex and call her mommy, am I committing incest?

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DKJ
06/17/20 5:24:46 PM
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Of course not.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 5:25:10 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
If I spank Scotty_Rogers mom during rough anal sex and call her mommy, am I committing incest?

You may not be into your own mother but you're turned on by the idea of incest

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ZeroX91
06/17/20 5:26:42 PM
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Think of it as the nicoteen patch of pedophila. *rimshot*

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HerbSaunders
06/17/20 5:30:04 PM
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As a kid I used to love GohanxBulma lemon because it made me feel like Bulma would boink me too.
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specialkid8
06/17/20 5:32:55 PM
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If you jerk it to drawings of two dudes fucking you're gay.
If you jerk it to drawings of siblings fucking you like incest.
If you jerk it to drawings of someone fucking a horse it's zoophilia.

It seems like people (as always) are just confused between the words pedophile and actual child molester.
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Cheater87
06/17/20 5:34:25 PM
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Is GTA murder?

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p-m
06/17/20 5:36:27 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
If you jerk it to drawings of two dudes fucking you're gay.
If you jerk it to drawings of siblings fucking you like incest.
If you jerk it to drawings of someone fucking a horse it's zoophilia.

It seems like people (as always) are just confused between the words pedophile and actual child molester.
Exactly.

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Tyranthraxus
06/17/20 5:38:59 PM
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Can't we just be a normal fucking forum and argue and people walking down ramps or some shit

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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 5:41:41 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
If you jerk it to drawings of two dudes fucking you're gay.
If you jerk it to drawings of siblings fucking you like incest.
If you jerk it to drawings of someone fucking a horse it's zoophilia.

It seems like people (as always) are just confused between the words pedophile and actual child molester.

The fact this needed to be explained is sad.

People really need to stop being in denial about what they're into. It's really not the end of the world; first step to recovery is acceptance.

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DirkDiggles
06/17/20 5:43:32 PM
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If I kill people in GTA, am I a murderer?

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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/20 5:47:32 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
If I kill people in GTA, am I a murderer?

No, but if you enjoy it, then you may have repressed homicidal urges.

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HaVeNII7
06/17/20 6:41:43 PM
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Not quite, but its just one step below it. Still, absolutely disgusting either way.

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Smackems
06/17/20 6:44:15 PM
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Wtf is a shotacon

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pepper2012
06/17/20 6:44:36 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Yes that bullshit is pedophilia


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AloofHermit
06/17/20 6:52:13 PM
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Megumin is best girl

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Frolex
06/17/20 7:02:00 PM
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COVxy posted...
Lol, this dude...

can't say he doesn't live up to his username

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ZeroX91
06/17/20 7:03:43 PM
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Smackems posted...
Wtf is a shotacon
Lil boys

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