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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 11:55:02 AM
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Pretending to be imprisoned for war crimes, convincing Gestahl to fake a surrender, just to ambush espers in their home land is some of the most convoluted way of killing shit in any Final Fantasy game.

Like, when Kuja wanted to just kill shit, all he did was blast it with big purple phalluses.

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DevsBro
06/08/20 12:04:37 PM
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Still way less complicated than the Count of Monte Cristo though.

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VanananaHeyHey
06/08/20 12:07:06 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Pretending to be imprisoned for war crimes, convincing Gestahl to fake a surrender, just to ambush espers in their home land is some of the most convoluted way of killing shit in any Final Fantasy game.
The important thing is none of us were all secretly raised in the same orphanage and just plum forgot about it.

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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 12:07:18 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Still way less complicated than the Count of Monte Cristo though.
The whole point of Count of Monte Cristo was that the dude had such a back asswards methodology that when he finally achieved it, he didn't get what he wanted.

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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 12:08:02 PM
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VanananaHeyHey posted...
The important thing is none of us were all secretly raised in the same orphanage and just plum forgot about it.
That wasn't related to killing shit though. That's just something that's stupid.

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DevsBro
06/08/20 12:08:16 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The whole point of Count of Monte Cristo was that the dude had such a back asswards methodology that when he finally achieved it, he didn't get what he wanted.
Yep. Great book.

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DevsBro
06/08/20 12:09:06 PM
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VanananaHeyHey posted...
The important thing is none of us were all secretly raised in the same orphanage and just plum forgot about it.
I'm convinced the only people who don't like FF8 either have no sense of humor or can't take a joke.

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Veggeta X
06/08/20 12:09:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Pretending to be imprisoned for war crimes, convincing Gestahl to fake a surrender, just to ambush espers in their home land is some of the most convoluted way of killing shit in any Final Fantasy game.

Like, when Kuja wanted to just kill shit, all he did was blast it with big purple phalluses.
Yeah and it was also Kefka's idea to purposely lose to the main characters in Narshe so that Terra can awaken her Esper powers

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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 12:10:45 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Yeah and it was also Kefka's idea to purposely lose to the main characters in Narshe so that Terra can awaken her Esper powers

he was there to get a report from Celes.

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Veggeta X
06/08/20 12:26:17 PM
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Oh stop it. The whole thing about her being a spy is a lie.

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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 12:28:28 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Oh stop it. The whole thing about her being a spy is a lie.

Celes confirms it herself in the magitek factory. She had a change of heart in the final moments leading up to it but it was not a lie at all. She was part of a larger plot to recapture the escaped espers and the returner leadership.

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Veggeta X
06/08/20 12:31:23 PM
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Umm I don't think that's what happened.

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ProboBum
06/08/20 12:40:33 PM
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Sephiroth was an edgelord with mommy issues and Kefka was a shitty clown. Both villains sucked. FF has never (imo) had a good antagonist.

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Tyranthraxus
06/08/20 12:52:44 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Umm I don't think that's what happened.
That's exactly what happened. If it was a lie she would have said it was a lie.

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Garlands_Soul
06/08/20 12:57:30 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
The greatest villain in FF history was Garland. Nobody else was able to knock them all down.
Damn right!

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SauI_Goodman
06/08/20 1:00:59 PM
#69:


Ask if they like the rock or vin diesel more.

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 7:57:32 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
That's exactly what happened. If it was a lie she would have said it was a lie.
She need not have to say it. She plainly asks Locke to trust and believe in her. He didn't at the time but it was apparent she was faithful to the main cast the whole time that's why he apologized to her for not believing in her. Come on, man. Stop tryna reach.

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Lairen
06/09/20 8:00:30 AM
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Kefka is so good he has people that hate him simply because most villains couldnt compete with him and i understand that.

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creativerealms
06/09/20 8:02:59 AM
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Tell them you think Final Fantasy VI is only average.

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Lairen
06/09/20 8:15:28 AM
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No one points out things like 2 relics make any character attack 8 times. Or magics OP.

You have to run through the game and ignore many op items and make sure you dont level up too fast or knowledge of Gaus rages and or probably not use tools in WoB for any type of challenge...

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 8:42:35 AM
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The Kefka hate is well deserved because people overrates and over-praises him like crazy as evidence from this topic.

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Lairen
06/09/20 8:48:58 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
The Kefka hate is well deserved because people overrates and over-praises him like crazy as evidence from this topic.

Are you also Veggeta Max and Edge?

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KeeperOfShadows
06/09/20 8:54:21 AM
#76:


I like Kefka alright. I just don't get what's supposed to be so impressive about what he did.

He destroyed the world...by moving around some statues. Woopdie-fucking-do. It's not like he used his own power to ruin things. Pretty sure he didn't even know what would happen himself.

He obtains God-like power. Yeah, him and 95% of the other jrpg villains out there. If anything, I find it more impressive when a villain gets shit done without being a god.

He's a fun villain, but nothing special amongst the many others in gaming.

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xXfireglzXx
06/09/20 8:56:02 AM
#77:


Kefka is just diluted Luca Blight. If you're going with the "Crazy and evil, but crazy evil" archetype go all out.

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Lairen
06/09/20 8:57:27 AM
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KeeperOfShadows posted...
He destroyed the world...
He obtains God-like power.

Other than that, yeah.


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Veggeta X
06/09/20 9:36:45 AM
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Again, the context or journey on how they get to be what they are always matter. Everyone either don't care how Kefka became God of Magic or they make up this crazy narrative about him that ain't even true.

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/09/20 9:41:14 AM
#80:


how do you identify a FF4 fan?

they prefer dragon quest and own body pillows
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Mistere Man
06/09/20 9:42:04 AM
#81:


6 is great, and so is 7, but for me ff2(4) is my personal favorite I know it has its flaws, but so many things with it really clicked with me and claimed a place in my heart.

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 11:57:53 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i never understood the praise for Luca Blight tbh. he's not really developed as a character at all beyond crazy maniacal tyrant. he's not even the best antagonist in the game he's in.
Again, there are always some context or back story to why or how people become who they are.

While he had been born normal, one event would change the Prince forever. While on an entourage, the Highland royal family's carriage was ambushed by ruffians. Agares fled in terror, leaving Luca and Sara captured by the delinquent ruffians. Luca would witness Sara repeatedly raped and he is unable to help. They managed to escape, but Sara eventually died giving birth to Luca's sister Jillia, from the rape. Even so, Luca, even in his eventual madness, would usually treat Jillia in a somewhat better discourse due to her resemblance to his mother.

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Lairen
06/09/20 12:02:09 PM
#84:


Its weird 2 other accounts, Veggeta edge and Max, have been literally making topics for years about hating Kefka.

Yall should all hang out and get the fuck over it.

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 12:03:02 PM
#85:


You make it sound like Kefka has been unjustly and unfairly being hated on. Boohoo.

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Lairen
06/09/20 12:04:42 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
You make it sound like Kefka has been unjustly and unfairly being hated on. Boohoo.

Hes popular. You dont like him.

Better make many topics over many years on a video game sites social board crying about it....

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VanananaHeyHey
06/09/20 12:06:37 PM
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Imagine being in a world of the rebirth of dreams and being named Seymour.

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 12:06:38 PM
#88:


Pretty sure I've already explained why I keep posting about him negatively but I can explain again no problem.

People overrated and over-praise him with little to no context or they exaggerate his deeds to make him to be a lot more than he actually is.

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Lairen
06/09/20 12:07:45 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Pretty sure I've already explained why I keep posting about him negatively but I can explain again no problem.

People overrated and over-praise him with little to no context or they exaggerate his deeds to make him to be a lot more than he actually is.

Ok, so after the first topic, why didnt you shut the fuck up about it?

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 12:11:47 PM
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Because there's still people who are overrating and over praising Kefka, thinking he's the best with little to no context or they exaggerate his deeds to make him to be a lot more than he actually is. You see it in this topic right now LMAO.

I don't make these posts for the sake of being a hater or for nothing. It's always because Kefka fanboys ask to be educated when they make baseless praises about him.

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DevsBro
06/09/20 12:15:04 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i never understood the praise for Luca Blight tbh. he's not really developed as a character at all beyond crazy maniacal tyrant. he's not even the best antagonist in the game he's in.
It's ok for some characters to be flat. But I do agree that there are better villains in Suikoden II. I always liked the ruler of Matilda. What was his name again?

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Lairen
06/09/20 12:16:54 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Because there's still people who are overrating and over praising Kefka, thinking he's the best with little to no context or they exaggerate his deeds to make him to be a lot more than he actually is. You see it in this topic right now LMAO.

I don't make these posts for the sake of being a hater or for nothing. It's always because Kefka fanboys ask to be educated when they make baseless praises about him.

Kefkas so awesome that your butthurt will never heal and youll continually cry about him.

Hes extremely underrated.

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ledbowman
06/09/20 12:24:32 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
It's always because Kefka fanboys ask to be educated when they make baseless praises about him.

Aka stop liking what i don't like

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 12:26:24 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Aka stop liking what i don't like
"Stop over praising shit you have no idea about" is more like it.

Lairen posted...
Hes extremely underrated.
LMAO

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Lairen
06/09/20 1:03:01 PM
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Kefka caused a man to get so upset that hes made 3 different accounts to bitch about Kefka.

Kefka breaks the walls of gaming and affects reality.

Kefkas a god.

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masterpug53
06/09/20 1:10:29 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I don't make these posts for the sake of being a hater or for nothing.

Lol, sorry, but that's bullshit. In any other case I'd write your behavior off on jonesing for UR's contrarian crown, but you're bordering on a holy war with your Kefka hateboner. I mean, I loathe seeing people heap praise on Fallout 3, but even I finally started letting up on shitting on it every time it was mentioned.

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Veggeta X
06/09/20 3:27:56 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
Lol, sorry, but that's bullshit. In any other case I'd write your behavior off on jonesing for UR's contrarian crown, but you're bordering on a holy war with your Kefka hateboner. I mean, I loathe seeing people heap praise on Fallout 3, but even I finally started letting up on shitting on it every time it was mentioned.
Coming from the guy who scratched and clawed for comparisons to make Kefka look super awesome. Again, anything I have negative against Kefka comes from the blatant made up shit about how great he is or how people don't even know the context of his true actions.

He's not this rags to riches story that I am sure yall really want to believe.

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pfh1001
06/09/20 3:48:42 PM
#99:


FF6 is my favorite from the series, but I also really enjoyed 7.
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GrandConjuraton
06/09/20 3:56:51 PM
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Their narcissism and a generally unfounded feeling of superiority.

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masterpug53
06/09/20 3:59:34 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Coming from the guy who scratched and clawed for comparisons to make Kefka look super awesome. Again, anything I have negative against Kefka comes from the blatant made up shit about how great he is or how people don't even know the context of his true actions.

He's not this rags to riches story that I am sure yall really want to believe.

Feel like there's a lot to unpack here, as you're getting pretty desperate to exacerbate what happened in order to save face. I never took the stance of 'Kefka's teh best villain evur,' and clearly stated as such; but in a topic where people are taking and approach to shitting on the guy similar to an edgy teen hating on their parent's music, I felt it worthwhile to defend him a bit. 'Scratched and clawed' is transparently petty on your part, as I made some fairly clear comparisons which you failed to effectively counter beyond 'lol they're nothing alike.' You complained earlier that I was trying to deflate HL's Joker in order to make Kefka look good; well, I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but that's what one does in arguments in which there's two characters who you believe to be fairly comparable, and one is getting dumped on and one is getting high praise. I was quite sincere in my appraisal; while I've always loved HL's Joker as a dynamic, manipulative presence, his philosophies and lauded ability to plan don't hold up under scrutiny. Let's also not forget that you erroneously handwaved every action Kefka took prior to moving the statues as 'winging it,' and never formed a strong defense of this, to the point where I was almost convinced you forgot Kefka actually did things in the game prior to moving the statues (this of course coming on the heels of a post where you quite ironically insinuated that 'fans' of the game never remembered the plot as well as you do).


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