Current Events > Systemic police racism is a myth. This is about police brutality (proof inside).

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Vindris_SNH 06/07/20 6:25:40 PM #1:	https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883 (TLDR: There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America, and we don't have enough evidence to prove Chauvin's motive was racist. This should be about police brutality alone. It has nothing to do with racism.) I encourage you to read the entire article, but here is a snippet: This charge of systemic police bias was wrong during the Obama years and remains so today. However sickening the video of Floyds arrest, it isnt representative of the 375 million annual contacts that police officers have with civilians. A solid body of evidence finds no structural bias in the criminal-justice system with regard to arrests, prosecution or sentencing. Crime and suspect behavior, not race, determine most police actions. In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines unarmed broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:940326110] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883 (TLDR: There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America, and we don't have enough evidence to prove Chauvin's motive was racist. This should be about police brutality alone. It has nothing to do with racism.) I encourage you to read the entire article, but here is a snippet: <quote> This charge of systemic police bias was wrong during the Obama years and remains so today. However sickening the video of Floyds arrest, it isnt representative of the 375 million annual contacts that police officers have with civilians. A solid body of evidence finds no structural bias in the criminal-justice system with regard to arrests, prosecution or sentencing. Crime and suspect behavior, not race, determine most police actions. In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines unarmed broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 06/07/20 6:27:16 PM #2:	Vindris_SNH posted... There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America There indisputably is. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:940326173] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted... </cite> <quote>There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America</quote> There indisputably is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/07/20 6:27:54 PM #3:	TheOtherMike posted... There indisputably is. Facts and statistics disagree with you. Please read. I'm hoping to open some eyes here. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:940326197] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>There indisputably is.</quote> Facts and statistics disagree with you. Please read. I'm hoping to open some eyes here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 06/07/20 6:29:22 PM #4:	You posted an opinion piece. Try again. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:940326260] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>You posted an opinion piece. Try again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/07/20 6:29:24 PM #5:	Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:940326262] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/07/20 6:30:12 PM #6:	TheOtherMike posted... You posted an opinion piece. Try again. There are statistics within the article. Again, read. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:940326290] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>You posted an opinion piece. Try again.</quote> There are statistics within the article. Again, read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/07/20 6:30:31 PM #7:	Webmaster4531 posted... Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization. this is a systemically racist post --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940326305] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization. </quote>this is a systemically racist post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/07/20 10:39:18 PM #8:	badump --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:940336385] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>badump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 06/07/20 11:07:28 PM #9:	https://medium.com/@bean1dt/heather-mac-donald-and-the-danger-of-academic-laziness-in-a-time-of-national-mourning-4718ec77735f Mac Donald continues to cite a report from the Community Oriented Policing Services. She points out that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. From the report, this is actually correct. However, she phrased it in a way as to make it appear as though this proves there is no systemic racism in the police force. But the study also says Our analysis shows that the suspects in officer-involved shootings were overwhelmingly Black. That same pattern was apparent in unarmed persons shot by the PPD. Our analysis also shows that threat perception failures (TPF) occur with suspects of all races. Black suspects have had the highest TPF rate (8.8 percent), more than twice the rate of White suspects (3.1 percent). It is clear that the Black community is disproportionately impacted by extreme violence involving the police. So, in fact, what she proved is not that systemic racism does not exist in the police force, but that it is actually more widespread than we usually believe. In other words, the fact that police officers of every race including African American police officers target black citizens is not proof that there is no systemic racism in the police force, it actually significantly enhances the argument. In short, stats can easily be misrepresented. Seems to be a common thing among far right "political commentators" like Mac Donald. Of course this doesn't go into the fact that poverty = increased crime. And black poverty in this country is overwhelmingly caused by past oppression and terrorism of black people (slavery, jim crow, redlining, the "war on drugs"). So yeah, systemic police racism is absolutely real. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:940337405] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>https://medium.com/@bean1dt/heather-mac-donald-and-the-danger-of-academic-laziness-in-a-time-of-national-mourning-4718ec77735f <quote>Mac Donald continues to cite a report from the Community Oriented Policing Services. She points out that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. From the report, this is actually correct. However, she phrased it in a way as to make it appear as though this proves there is no systemic racism in the police force. But the study also says Our analysis shows that the suspects in officer-involved shootings were overwhelmingly Black. That same pattern was apparent in unarmed persons shot by the PPD. Our analysis also shows that threat perception failures (TPF) occur with suspects of all races. Black suspects have had the highest TPF rate (8.8 percent), more than twice the rate of White suspects (3.1 percent). It is clear that the Black community is disproportionately impacted by extreme violence involving the police. So, in fact, what she proved is not that systemic racism does not exist in the police force, but that it is actually more widespread than we usually believe. In other words, the fact that police officers of every race including African American police officers target black citizens is not proof that there is no systemic racism in the police force, it actually significantly enhances the argument.</quote> In short, stats can easily be misrepresented. Seems to be a common thing among far right "political commentators" like Mac Donald. Of course this doesn't go into the fact that poverty = increased crime. And black poverty in this country is overwhelmingly caused by past oppression and terrorism of black people (slavery, jim crow, redlining, the "war on drugs"). So yeah, systemic police racism is absolutely real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/07/20 11:09:44 PM #10:	https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.05376.pdf We start with standard benchmark and outcome analyses of North Carolina traffic stops. Table 1 shows that the search rate for black drivers (5.4%) and Hispanic drivers (4.1%) is higher than for whites drivers (3.1%). Moreover, when searched, the rate of recovering contraband on blacks (29%) and Hispanics (19%) is lower than when searching whites (32%). Thus both the benchmark and outcome tests point to discrimination in search decisions against blacks and Hispanics. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854 The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data An analysis by the NYCLU revealed that innocent New Yorkers have been subjected to police stops and street interrogations more than 5 million times since 2002, and that Black and Latinx communities continue to be the overwhelming target of these tactics. At the height of stop-and-frisk in 2011 under the Bloomberg administration, over 685,000 people were stopped. Nearly *9 out of 10 stopped-and-frisked New Yorkers have been completely innocent.* https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2017/05/30/1702413114.full.pdf We find that officers speak with consistently less respect toward black versus white community members, even after controlling for the race of the officer, the severity of the infraction, the location of the stop, and the outcome of the stop. Such disparities in common, everyday interactions between police and the communities they serve have important implications for procedural justice and the building of policecommunity trust. https://bit.ly/3cGiOO7 cross the city, black people were arrested on low-level marijuana charges at eight times the rate of white, non-Hispanic people over the past three years, The New York Times found. Hispanic people were arrested at five times the rate of white people. In Manhattan, the gap is even starker: Black people there were arrested at 15 times the rate of white people. An analysis by The Times found that fact did not fully explain the racial disparity. Instead, among neighborhoods where people called about marijuana at the same rate, the police almost always made arrests at a higher rate in the area with more black residents, The Times found. https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/jus14-warcomeshome-report-web-rel1.pdf The numbers become even more troubling when examining the racial breakdowns for search warrants. Of the deployments in which all of the people impacted were minorities, the deployment was for the purpose of executing a search warrant in 80 percent of cases, and where the people impacted were a mix of white people and minorities, the deployment was for the purpose of executing a search warrant in 84 percent of cases. In contrast, when all of the people impacted were white, the purpose was to execute a search warrant in 65 percent of cases. When the number of people impacted by a deployment was known, 42 percent of people impacted by a SWAT deployment to execute a search warrant were Black and 12 percent were Latino. So overall, of the people impacted by deployments for warrants, 54 percent were minorities. In contrast, nearly half of the people impacted by deployments involving hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios were white, whereas only 22 percent were minorities (the rest were people who were known to have been impacted by hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios but whose race was not known, so the difference could be even greater). https://www.aclu.org/report/report-war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=criminal-law-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white Marijuana use is roughly equal among Blacks and whites, yet Blacks are 3.73 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. http://faculty.cwsl.edu/benner/aaRacialDisparityinNarcoticsSearchWarrants.pdf As seen in Table 29 below, Whites were significantly underrepresented while Hispanics and Blacks were significantly over-represented as targets of narcotics search warrants issued in the county as a whole. http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf The best national evidence on drug use shows that African Americans and whites use illegal drugs at about the same rate. Nonetheless, African Americans are about five times as likely to go to prison for drug possession as whitesand judging from exonerations, innocent black people are about 12 times more likely to be convicted of drug crimes than innocent white people. Now go away, It's well past your bedtime, and that's an actual "fact" --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940337491] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.05376.pdf We start with standard benchmark and outcome analyses of North Carolina traffic stops. Table 1 shows that the search rate for black drivers (5.4%) and Hispanic drivers (4.1%) is higher than for whites drivers (3.1%). Moreover, when searched, the rate of recovering contraband on blacks (29%) and Hispanics (19%) is lower than when searching whites (32%). Thus both the benchmark and outcome tests point to discrimination in search decisions against blacks and Hispanics. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854 The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data An analysis by the NYCLU revealed that innocent New Yorkers have been subjected to police stops and street interrogations more than 5 million times since 2002, and that Black and Latinx communities continue to be the overwhelming target of these tactics. At the height of stop-and-frisk in 2011 under the Bloomberg administration, over 685,000 people were stopped. Nearly 9 out of 10 stopped-and-frisked New Yorkers have been completely innocent. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2017/05/30/1702413114.full.pdf We find that officers speak with consistently less respect toward black versus white community members, even after controlling for the race of the officer, the severity of the infraction, the location of the stop, and the outcome of the stop. Such disparities in common, everyday interactions between police and the communities they serve have important implications for procedural justice and the building of policecommunity trust. https://bit.ly/3cGiOO7 cross the city, black people were arrested on low-level marijuana charges at eight times the rate of white, non-Hispanic people over the past three years, The New York Times found. Hispanic people were arrested at five times the rate of white people. In Manhattan, the gap is even starker: Black people there were arrested at 15 times the rate of white people. An analysis by The Times found that fact did not fully explain the racial disparity. Instead, among neighborhoods where people called about marijuana at the same rate, the police almost always made arrests at a higher rate in the area with more black residents, The Times found. https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/jus14-warcomeshome-report-web-rel1.pdf The numbers become even more troubling when examining the racial breakdowns for search warrants. Of the deployments in which all of the people impacted were minorities, the deployment was for the purpose of executing a search warrant in 80 percent of cases, and where the people impacted were a mix of white people and minorities, the deployment was for the purpose of executing a search warrant in 84 percent of cases. In contrast, when all of the people impacted were white, the purpose was to execute a search warrant in 65 percent of cases. When the number of people impacted by a deployment was known, 42 percent of people impacted by a SWAT deployment to execute a search warrant were Black and 12 percent were Latino. So overall, of the people impacted by deployments for warrants, 54 percent were minorities. In contrast, nearly half of the people impacted by deployments involving hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios were white, whereas only 22 percent were minorities (the rest were people who were known to have been impacted by hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios but whose race was not known, so the difference could be even greater). https://www.aclu.org/report/report-war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=criminal-law-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white Marijuana use is roughly equal among Blacks and whites, yet Blacks are 3.73 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. http://faculty.cwsl.edu/benner/aaRacialDisparityinNarcoticsSearchWarrants.pdf As seen in Table 29 below, Whites were significantly underrepresented while Hispanics and Blacks were significantly over-represented as targets of narcotics search warrants issued in the county as a whole. http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf The best national evidence on drug use shows that African Americans and whites use illegal drugs at about the same rate. Nonetheless, African Americans are about five times as likely to go to prison for drug possession as whitesand judging from exonerations, innocent black people are about 12 times more likely to be convicted of drug crimes than innocent white people. Now go away, It's well past your bedtime, and that's an actual "fact" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Odoylerules 06/07/20 11:11:33 PM #11:	damn tc got fucking murked! <cite>Odoylerules posted [p:940337551] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>damn tc got fucking murked! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MwarriorHiei 06/07/20 11:16:09 PM #12:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States --- https://imgur.com/QkFxs3C <cite>MwarriorHiei posted [p:940337712] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 06/07/20 11:19:30 PM #13:	This is just straight up not credible if you know the first thing about American history or the criminal justice system. By even trying to push such a narrative, you discredit yourself. It's on the level of posting an anti-vax "study" --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:940337829] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>This is just straight up not credible if you know the first thing about American history or the criminal justice system. By even trying to push such a narrative, you discredit yourself. It's on the level of posting an anti-vax "study" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/07/20 11:34:24 PM #14:	I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940338289] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 06/07/20 11:35:55 PM #15:	I have tc tagged as makes blatantly ignorant topics that also show his racist beliefs, and then a cop shitposter will come and back him up glad to see it holds up --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:940338338] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>I have tc tagged as makes blatantly ignorant topics that also show his racist beliefs, and then a cop shitposter will come and back him up glad to see it holds up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sirius 06/07/20 11:37:24 PM #16:	Vindris_SNH posted... Facts and statistics disagree with you. Please read. I'm hoping to open some eyes here. You think they want to hear about facts? This is 2020, feelings are all that matters. --- You'll laugh, you'll cry and you will never want to go to sleep again. --jollzoffire about Dragon Quest VII <cite>Sirius posted [p:940338381] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted... </cite> <quote>Facts and statistics disagree with you. Please read. I'm hoping to open some eyes here.</quote> You think they want to hear about facts? This is 2020, feelings are all that matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/07/20 11:37:50 PM #17:	darkprince45 posted... I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now NYPD is systemically racist = systemic racism isn't a myth. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:940338397] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now</quote>NYPD is systemically racist = systemic racism isn't a myth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/07/20 11:38:40 PM #18:	darkprince45 posted... I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now whoa meaningless shitposting from darkprince45, what a shock. kick me, i must be dreaming, dawg --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940338421] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>I guess we base all policing stats off NYPD now</quote> whoa meaningless shitposting from darkprince45, what a shock. kick me, i must be dreaming, dawg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 06/07/20 11:39:29 PM #19:	I always thought the issue should focus on police reform, bringing race into is a red herring. --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:940338447] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>I always thought the issue should focus on police reform, bringing race into is a red herring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/07/20 11:41:00 PM #20:	Yes, so meaningless that we base off an entire countries police over NYPD statistics. Whats next, are you going to show me how da police like low iq and post the 1 article from 2000 with one department and one officer and how cops actually have a higher than average iq from that same study everyone omits. or the 40 percent are domestic abusers! Which is from the 80s again from one department --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940338492] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Yes, so meaningless that we base off an entire countries police over NYPD statistics. Whats next, are you going to show me how da police like low iq and post the 1 article from 2000 with one department and one officer and how cops actually have a higher than average iq from that same study everyone omits. or the 40 percent are domestic abusers! Which is from the 80s again from one department </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/07/20 11:42:30 PM #21:	darkprince45 posted... Yes, so meaningless that we base off an entire countries police over NYPD statistics. Who ITT has done that, champ? --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940338539] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, so meaningless that we base off an entire countries police over NYPD statistics.</quote> Who ITT has done that, champ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrimis 06/07/20 11:44:06 PM #22:	Bananana posted... I have tc tagged as makes blatantly ignorant topics that also show his racist beliefs, and then a cop shitposter will come and back him up glad to see it holds up lies! you cant have that many characters! --- Wave. PSN: WaveyyyA <cite>Fenrimis posted [p:940338585] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Bananana posted... </cite> <quote>I have tc tagged as makes blatantly ignorant topics that also show his racist beliefs, and then a cop shitposter will come and back him up glad to see it holds up</quote>lies! you cant have that many characters! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/07/20 11:45:42 PM #23:	Frolex posted... Who ITT has done that, champ? i think all of your links but one show New York, champ. Imagine if I said, all McDonalds cashier steal money from the register. We surveyed a McDonalds in New York and almost their cashiers said they have stolen money before. All McDonalds cashiers in the world bad now --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940338647] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Frolex posted... </cite> <quote>Who ITT has done that, champ?</quote>i think all of your links but one show New York, champ. Imagine if I said, all McDonalds cashier steal money from the register. We surveyed a McDonalds in New York and almost their cashiers said they have stolen money before. All McDonalds cashiers in the world bad now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 06/07/20 11:51:04 PM #24:	Dathrowed1 posted... I always thought the issue should focus on police reform, bringing race into is a red herring. Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:940338833] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>I always thought the issue should focus on police reform, bringing race into is a red herring.</quote> Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/07/20 11:51:41 PM #25:	darkprince45 posted... i think all of your links but one show New York, champ. Ah I see, the problem here seems to be that you actually can't read. Go over those studies again, and come back to me when you get to a word that you have trouble with, and we can go through it together. I know we all need a little helping hand sometimes, and I'm a patient person when it comes to the needs of others. --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940338856] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>i think all of your links but one show New York, champ.</quote> Ah I see, the problem here seems to be that you actually can't read. Go over those studies again, and come back to me when you get to a word that you have trouble with, and we can go through it together. I know we all need a little helping hand sometimes, and I'm a patient person when it comes to the needs of others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli 06/07/20 11:53:19 PM #26:	Racism in policing is a problem. Just look at the social distancing arrest stats in NYC Statisticulation from WSJ doesnt change the facts --- https://youtu.be/8Cvjr2zDvYU - 24/7 Farrakhan Radio Fearlessness looks like insanity to a coward - The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan <cite>2Pacavelli posted [p:940338896] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Racism in policing is a problem. Just look at the social distancing arrest stats in NYC Statisticulation from WSJ doesnt change the facts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/07/20 11:54:13 PM #27:	Arrests towards black people have gone down each year while white people increasing --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940338918] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Arrests towards black people have gone down each year while white people increasing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 06/07/20 11:55:35 PM #28:	Webmaster4531 posted... Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization. Not only that, this Mac Donald woman wants police to institute stop and frisk. She's one of those right wingers that like to gaslight on issues like this, her opinion pieces are trash. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:940338967] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously a Wallstreet Journal article? It's also a systemically racist organization.</quote> Not only that, this Mac Donald woman wants police to institute stop and frisk. She's one of those right wingers that like to gaslight on issues like this, her opinion pieces are trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/07/20 11:58:06 PM #29:	darkprince45 posted... Arrests towards black people have gone down each year while white people increasing How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet? --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940339044] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Arrests towards black people have gone down each year while white people increasing</quote> How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/07/20 11:58:28 PM #30:	Taharqa_ posted... Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police. in fact I heard a claim recently that some of the earliest forms American cops took was that of slave catching patrols, that hunted escaped slaves <cite>Zikten posted [p:940339057] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote> Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police. </quote> in fact I heard a claim recently that some of the earliest forms American cops took was that of slave catching patrols, that hunted escaped slaves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/20 12:00:10 AM #31:	Frolex posted... How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet? Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940339112] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Frolex posted... </cite> <quote>How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet?</quote>Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/20 12:01:15 AM #32:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States maybe someone should research the crime stats and see if theres any correlation. How we can improve those numbers while likewise training police to better de escalate and not do what chauvin did --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940339147] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States maybe someone should research the crime stats and see if theres any correlation. How we can improve those numbers while likewise training police to better de escalate and not do what chauvin did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 06/08/20 12:01:17 AM #33:	Frolex posted... How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet? The dude literally gets his news from Andy Ngo, I don't think you should worry about his opinion. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:940339149] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Frolex posted... </cite> <quote>How you coming along with those articles btw sport? come across a word you need my help sounding out yet?</quote> The dude literally gets his news from Andy Ngo, I don't think you should worry about his opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/08/20 12:01:17 AM #34:	Vindris_SNH posted... There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America https://i.imgur.com/b6rXVaY.gif --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:940339150] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote> There is no evidence of systemic police racism in America</quote> https://i.imgur.com/b6rXVaY.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/08/20 12:01:21 AM #35:	darkprince45 posted... Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say A word you don't want to say, or a word that's difficult for you to pronounce? --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940339154] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say</quote> A word you don't want to say, or a word that's difficult for you to pronounce? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 06/08/20 12:01:45 AM #36:	darkprince45 posted... Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:940339168] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Im not responding to someone with a keyboard warrior attitude. Shave your neck beard and learn to talk to someone in a tone that doesnt make you sound like a word I dont want to say</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 06/08/20 12:01:49 AM #37:	lol he stopped responding. dont fucking post here again --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:940339170] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>lol he stopped responding. dont fucking post here again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/20 12:02:02 AM #38:	Frolex posted... A word you don't want to say, or a word that's difficult for you to pronounce? Nah Ill call you a douche --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940339180] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Frolex posted... </cite> <quote>A word you don't want to say, or a word that's difficult for you to pronounce?</quote>Nah Ill call you a douche </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/08/20 12:02:28 AM #39:	darkprince45 posted... How we can improve those numbers while likewise training police to better de escalate and not do what chauvin did "Don't kneel a dude's head for 8 minutes" isn't something that should require training... Guy was a 19 year veteran too. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:940339189] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>How we can improve those numbers while likewise training police to better de escalate and not do what chauvin did </quote> "Don't kneel a dude's head for 8 minutes" isn't something that should require training... Guy was a 19 year veteran too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 06/08/20 12:03:12 AM #40:	Taharqa_ posted... Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police. focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform. I mean when police kill unarmed white guys and get away with it what's your response? --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:940339209] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>Race has been intertwined with policing from the beginning. It has always been tempestuous between communities of color and police.</quote>focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform. I mean when police kill unarmed white guys and get away with it what's your response? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/08/20 12:03:15 AM #41:	whoa, why am I being flamed for being helpful? --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940339211] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>whoa, why am I being flamed for being helpful? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/20 12:03:20 AM #42:	Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is and resort to being toxic immediately --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940339215] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is and resort to being toxic immediately </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 06/08/20 12:03:28 AM #43:	Sirius posted... You think they want to hear about facts? This is 2020, feelings are all that matters. I love when some dumbass comes in like this after the original post has already been refuted with facts and statistics. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:940339216] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Sirius posted... </cite> <quote> You think they want to hear about facts? This is 2020, feelings are all that matters.</quote> I love when some dumbass comes in like this after the original post has already been refuted with facts and statistics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 06/08/20 12:04:43 AM #44:	Dathrowed1 posted... focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform. That's on them, not me. Don't get your feelings hurt over historical fact. Dathrowed1 posted... I mean when police kill unarmed white guys what's your response? That police brutality is a major problem that has to be addressed. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:940339246] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform.</quote> That's on them, not me. Don't get your feelings hurt over historical fact. Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean when police kill unarmed white guys what's your response?</quote> That police brutality is a major problem that has to be addressed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 06/08/20 12:05:08 AM #45:	darkprince45 posted... Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is despite and resort to being toxic immediately No need to get overdramatic about just because you're getting frustrated now. Would you like me to show you how to use this thing called "context clues" to get through things easier? --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:940339255] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is despite and resort to being toxic immediately</quote> No need to get overdramatic about just because you're getting frustrated now. Would you like me to show you how to use this thing called "context clues" to get through things easier? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 06/08/20 12:06:14 AM #46:	Dathrowed1 posted... focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform. I mean when police kill unarmed white guys and get away with it what's your response? That a system that was created to control and brutalize poor and brown people often does it to others as well, and that's also bad? And that if police can't get away with abusing even black people, then they definitely won't be able to get away with abusing white people? Hence, BLM? --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:940339285] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>focusing on race is going to lose you people that simply would have stuck around if you stayed to reform. I mean when police kill unarmed white guys and get away with it what's your response?</quote> That a system that was created to control and brutalize poor and brown people often does it to others as well, and that's also bad? And that if police can't get away with abusing even black people, then they definitely won't be able to get away with abusing white people? Hence, BLM? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 06/08/20 12:08:46 AM #47:	darkprince45 posted... Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is and resort to being toxic immediately Dude you got proven wrong and now you're the one being toxic about it. Maybe you're the one who needs to change their perspective and drink a bit of humble tea. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:940339358] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Another great gatekeeper of the left. To join the like minded aggressive minds of hairistotle, MFKbass, and vipas. Never actually discuss anything, just say how awful everyone is and resort to being toxic immediately</quote>Dude you got proven wrong and now you're the one being toxic about it. Maybe you're the one who needs to change their perspective and drink a bit of humble tea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 06/08/20 12:09:08 AM #48:	IMNOTRAGED posted... That police brutality is a major problem that has to be addressed. Agreed, let's stick with that legendary_zell posted... That a system that was created to control and brutalize poor and brown people often does it to others as well, and that's also bad? And that if police can't get away with abusing even black people, then they definitely won't be able to get away with abusing white people? Hence, BLM? It be easier and more direct to show that yes brutality directly affects white people instead of some trickle down effect. Showing images of police gunning down white people and getting away with it would be much easier. --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:940339375] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>That police brutality is a major problem that has to be addressed.</quote>Agreed, let's stick with that legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>That a system that was created to control and brutalize poor and brown people often does it to others as well, and that's also bad? And that if police can't get away with abusing even black people, then they definitely won't be able to get away with abusing white people? Hence, BLM?</quote>It be easier and more direct to show that yes brutality directly affects white people instead of some trickle down effect. Showing images of police gunning down white people and getting away with it would be much easier. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 06/08/20 12:09:41 AM #49:	Its funny that dp45 is crying about a hive mind when the guy just wants an echo chamber. Started blocking people so they couldnt respond to his topic anymore. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:940339389] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>Its funny that dp45 is crying about a hive mind when the guy just wants an echo chamber. Started blocking people so they couldnt respond to his topic anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/20 12:09:46 AM #50:	im not frustrated at all btw, Im not one resorting to being sarcastic and insulting. Also, the origins of police is not slavery. A little after its conception, some southern states had begun to conduct slave patrols. But thats a completely different argument about the south thats just another false talking point this board used --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:940339395] in Systemic p... [t:78753655]...</cite> <quote>im not frustrated at all btw, Im not one resorting to being sarcastic and insulting. Also, the origins of police is not slavery. A little after its conception, some southern states had begun to conduct slave patrols. But thats a completely different argument about the south thats just another false talking point this board used </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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