Current Events > So how should people respond to decades of unchecked police brutality?

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LightningAce11
05/28/20 6:57:59 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
A jury and mandatory cameras. 3 cameras per officer. Unpaid administrative leave. Consequences for all cops involved and those who refuse to speak up against their coworkers.
This plus several (5+) years of training before you are given a gun and a badge.

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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 7:02:46 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
This plus several (5+) years of training before you are given a gun and a badge.
Demilitarizing the civilian constabulary would also help out quite a bit.
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BigG777
05/28/20 7:24:15 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
A jury and mandatory cameras. 3 cameras per officer. Unpaid administrative leave. Consequences for all cops involved and those who refuse to speak up against their coworkers.


LightningAce11 posted...
This plus several (5+) years of training before you are given a gun and a badge.

Do you guys have a plan for when all the murderers and rapists go on a field day due to a majority of cops quitting or become too scared to do their jobs because of these new rules?
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cerealbox760
05/28/20 7:26:17 PM
#54:


BigG777 posted...
Do you guys have a plan for when all the murderers and rapists go on a field day due to a majority of cops quitting or become too scared to do their jobs because of these new rules?
Dammit. You got me. Let's go loot. Clearly a better plan. /s
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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 7:29:15 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
If anyone thinks police brutality isn't a big issue just because their business got burned down, that person's a piece of shit.
Because the two are not related at all? And businesses shouldnt suffer because of the former?
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WaterLink
05/28/20 7:29:53 PM
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Antifar
05/28/20 7:32:07 PM
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BigG777 posted...
Do you guys have a plan for when all the murderers and rapists go on a field day due to a majority of cops quitting or become too scared to do their jobs because of these new rules?

They do this from time to time when they get in a fit, and basically nothing happens
https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html
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Laserion
05/28/20 7:35:39 PM
#58:


mobilebloechel posted...
Do what I did. Become a cop.

So, when fellow cops are being excessively violent, do you step in and tell them "that's enough"?
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Ya_dun_goofed
05/28/20 8:13:59 PM
#59:


EffectAndCause posted...
A strongly worded letter to their congressman?
Would be better than an aimless riot...

I'm not against violence or a show of force(armed protest like the whiteys done in Michigan), but burning down a city at random achieves nothing.

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Smashingpmkns
05/28/20 8:15:57 PM
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People are saying the riots and looting aren't helping but it's making national news and now it has staying power so I dunno, seems like it actually is helping
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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 8:20:50 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
People are saying the riots and looting aren't helping but it's making national news and now it has staying power so I dunno, seems like it actually is helping
But they all look like a bunch of nitwits and criminals so it hurts the cause tremendously. Well over half the news coverage isnt even about thr man who got killed, but rather these morons going buck wild and smashing and stealing shit. People fear that behavior.
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Zeeak4444
05/28/20 8:22:51 PM
#62:


@nemu posted...
I know I for one would not give a shit about anything going on in the wider world other than maybe fucking world war 3 if my fucking house or business burned to the ground.


and now you know exactly whats happening. Just as you wouldnt give a shit about whats going on with them, they dont give a shit about the businesses.


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DarthAragorn
05/28/20 8:23:34 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
People are saying the riots and looting aren't helping but it's making national news and now it has staying power so I dunno, seems like it actually is helping

Did that help with Ferguson MO or just turn it into a shithole
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Balrog0
05/28/20 8:26:38 PM
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Antifar posted...
They do this from time to time when they get in a fit, and basically nothing happens
https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html

If anything things get better

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lv20swds
05/28/20 8:26:51 PM
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Try peacefully protesting to bring attention to it. Like maybe kneeling during the anthem or something. Surely nobody would take offense to that.
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Hinakuluiau
05/28/20 8:35:30 PM
#66:


BigG777 posted...
Become cops themselves and change it from the inside?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It's such a reductionist way to look at things.
Sure, it works for the folks who want to do that job, would be good at it, and could qualify for it. But what about the 40 year old doctor who isn't happy with what he sees? Should Philando Castile's mom sign up for the force, so she can not shoot someone? Should George Floyd's family become a cop just to not be racist?

Seriously, imagine a doctor using the same reasoning. Your mom died because I misdiagnosed her cancer? Your fault for not becoming a doctor, one better than me.
Now yes, the medical profession as a whole has not been accused of delivering substandard treatment like the police have been, but you can't use "You should just totally change your entire life in order to compensate for us doing a bad job" as an excuse for problems.

Just because you're not in a profession or directly involved doesn't mean you can't comment on things that affect all of us. That's why we have this representative system of democracy, and concepts like public accountability.

tl;dr: The fundamental point is that you shouldn't have to be a cop to criticize a cop, any more than I need to enlist in the Syrian army if I think they're committing war crimes, or any more than you need to work for New York Bankers if you get pissed off at Wall Street corruption.

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ColdOne666
05/28/20 8:35:57 PM
#67:


ChadMansplainer posted...
Yes

i would start by not totally destroying entire communities and ruining peoples lives and businesses, including widespread vandalism and looting.


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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 9:22:37 PM
#68:


Balrog0 posted...
If anything things get better
If anything most "low-level offenses" shouldn't be offenses.
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ThanksUglyGod
05/28/20 9:26:00 PM
#69:


ChadMansplainer posted...
Because the two are not related at all? And businesses shouldnt suffer because of the former?
What?
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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 9:36:42 PM
#70:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
What?
Police brutality has exactly zero to do with local businesses. Literally nothing to do with each other in terms of appropriateness of responses by criminal looters and vandals. They have no excuse
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ScazarMeltex
05/28/20 9:37:47 PM
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By licking the boot obviously. Appealing to the better nature of those who don't think of you as human is always the way to get them treat you better.

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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 9:41:57 PM
#72:


The popular "answer" since about the 50s or so has been to move out of the city.
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ThanksUglyGod
05/28/20 9:48:37 PM
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ChadMansplainer posted...
Police brutality has exactly zero to do with local businesses. Literally nothing to do with each other in terms of appropriateness of responses by criminal looters and vandals. They have no excuse
That's basically what I'm saying. Police brutality has nothing to do with local business, so why would someone losing their business cause them to drop their moral compass?
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Questionmarktarius
05/28/20 9:50:53 PM
#74:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
so why would someone losing their business cause them to drop their moral compass?
It does?
If anything, it causes a business to find an actual compass, and relocate to the suburbs.
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refmon
05/28/20 9:58:53 PM
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The mental gymnastics needed to defend the destruction and looting of a target shop in the name of "fight against the cops" is honestly mind numbing

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Rika_Furude
05/28/20 10:01:30 PM
#76:


refmon posted...
The mental gymnastics needed to defend the destruction and looting of a target shop in the name of "fight against the cops" is honestly mind numbing
The looting is obviously bad but honestly i dont care if the store is trashed. They support the police (as far as donating to them) so that has positioned them against the protestors already. On top of that they are a megacorporation and already fuck the country in many ways.
This is just for target specifically

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HiddenRoar
05/28/20 10:21:58 PM
#77:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
so why would someone losing their business cause them to drop their moral compass?

Because they've now lost their means of livelihood.

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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 10:22:55 PM
#78:


Rika_Furude posted...
The looting is obviously bad but honestly i dont care if the store is trashed. They support the police (as far as donating to them) so that has positioned them against the protestors already. On top of that they are a megacorporation and already fuck the country in many ways.
This is just for target specifically
How does target donating to police position them against the protesters who we assume Are mostly law abiding? Not quite sure i follow you.

how does target fuck the country? It provides probably a few hundred thousand jobs (just looked it up, 360,000 employees plus untold supporting jobs). How does thus fuck the country?
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Rika_Furude
05/28/20 10:25:25 PM
#79:


ChadMansplainer posted...
How does target donating to police position them against the protesters who we assume Are mostly law abiding? Not quite sure i follow you.

how does target fuck the country? It provides probably a few hundred thousand jobs (just looked it up, 360,000 employees plus untold supporting jobs). How does thus fuck the country?
The protestors are against police and the corruption that has caused the system to fail
Target supports the police
This is a quite clear case of target being an enemy
Target employing a lot of minimum wage or near minimum wage staff doesnt help the country in any way. Especially when most those employees arent permanent full time. Thats extremely damaging to the country and economy. And thats off topic for this discussion anyway, i just brought it up as i dont care about bad things happening to some evil business.

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Toedysseus
05/28/20 10:29:36 PM
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This is the natural result of people being deliberately and maliciously suppressed, dismissed, imprisoned, and killed by a system meant to care for them. This is literally the only way to be heard, because everything short of rioting has not worked. Peaceful protesting has prob even made things worse in some ways.

I'm not saying going out and stealing and destroying things is an ethical form of protest, but it's extremely easy to see why these people are where they're at
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Sphyx
05/28/20 10:30:15 PM
#81:


You have to wonder what the point of peaceful protest is when it gets no results, over and over again.

And then you get tarred with the same brush used for opportunistic rioters, all so they can dismiss the whole issue with the narrative that you're the bad guy.

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Middle hope
05/28/20 10:30:29 PM
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Decades of rioting over it and it's still the same. Maybe it's time to stop rioting and try something else.

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Sphyx
05/28/20 10:45:10 PM
#83:


Perhaps the protesters aren't the ones who need to be doing things differently.

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lv20swds
05/28/20 10:45:59 PM
#84:


Middle hope posted...
Decades of rioting over it and it's still the same. Maybe it's time to stop rioting and try something else.

Have we tried holding police accountable and not letting them get away with murdering folks yet? I suggest we try that.
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Solid Snake07
05/28/20 10:47:09 PM
#85:


Looting televisions sure as shit isn't the solution

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BlueBoy675
05/28/20 10:49:16 PM
#86:


lv20swds posted...
Have we tried holding police accountable and not letting them get away with murdering folks yet? I suggest we try that.
But wait! The people in power wont allow that.

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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 10:57:09 PM
#87:


Toedysseus posted...
This is the natural result of people being deliberately and maliciously suppressed, dismissed, imprisoned, and killed by a system meant to care for them. This is literally the only way to be heard, because everything short of rioting has not worked. Peaceful protesting has prob even made things worse in some ways.

I'm not saying going out and stealing and destroying things is an ethical form of protest, but it's extremely easy to see why these people are where they're at
Frankly its digesting to hear people making excuses like this for he literal criminal behavior that has gone on for three days now. Literal destruction of dozens of blocks of an entire community, that will probably not recover for a long time, if ever. An affordable housing development was destroyed by these criminals.

there is no excuse for destroying your own community. None. There are other ways to be heard that dont involve ruining thousands of peoples lives and jobs because you get mad and want to break And steal stuff.

stop making excuses for criminals. They have no excuse for destroying this community. None at all.
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Toedysseus
05/28/20 10:59:43 PM
#88:


ChadMansplainer posted...
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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 11:03:08 PM
#89:


Rika_Furude posted...
The protestors are against police and the corruption that has caused the system to fail
Target supports the police
This is a quite clear case of target being an enemy
Target employing a lot of minimum wage or near minimum wage staff doesnt help the country in any way. Especially when most those employees arent permanent full time. Thats extremely damaging to the country and economy. And thats off topic for this discussion anyway, i just brought it up as i dont care about bad things happening to some evil business.
This sounds like some commie tripe, but Ill try to respond. If you think target is an enemy, because it supports local law enforcement, I dont even know how to respond. Im assuming you are some sort of fuck all cops anarchist, but you would be in a lot of trouble if there were no police around.

I find it laughable that providing literally hundreds of thousands of jobs doesnt help the country in any way. Much less being damaging to the country? No one is forced to work there. I looked it up, and their average cashier salary is $12.27, whuch is well above the national rate.

I just dont know where you get off calling target evil. What companies are not evil in your option?
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ChadMansplainer
05/28/20 11:03:43 PM
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Toedysseus posted...
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Some damn good hot sauce. Available at target, I might add
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