Current Events > Do you truly believe Joe Biden is a racist?

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I did this one last week for Trump, it's only fair to do it with Biden. "You ain't black if you vote for Trump!" "Poor kids are just as bright as white kids!"

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https://twitter.com/aturtlenamedbo1/status/1264570189506646017
"Our culture....it's not imported from some African nation, or some Asian nation. It's our English jurisprudential culture; our European culture..."
Sounds like he could be making a vid for PragerU there.

He has no malicious intent against people based on race, if that's what you're asking. Doubt he would try to keep black people from moving into an apartment he owned, for example.

But yes, he obviously has some biases in there.

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At an absolute baseline, I think he's less of a piece of shit than Trump is. Including his stupid, shitty racist slip-ups. I still think it's horseshit that this asshole gets the attention as the only viable contender against Trump, with Bernie Sanders having a support base that crosses a broad swathe of the political spectrum - from far left progressives to economic conservatives, at least in the lower end of the age brackets of which a slight majority of voters preside in - but frankly, even if Joe Biden is a racist asshole, it's hard to believe that he's an even bigger one than Donald "far left protestors are as bad as swastika-waving neo-nazis" Trump.

It shouldn't come down to that, but it does.

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Absolutely

Not as racist as Trump

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SauI_Goodman posted...

"Poor kids are just as bright as white kids!"

Lmao, did he actually say this?

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Turbam posted...

Lmao, did he actually say this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qYckI0YV-0 what's worse the fact he said it or the clapping lol

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He's an old white man politician, of course he's racist.

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*checks his quotes*

yep

Hes not aggressively racist but he certainly says some softly racist things. I dont think he hates anyone, hes just a bit out of touch.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

This is a good way to put it. Biden is racist in an out of touch way. Trump is racist in a malicious, believes white people are superior way.

Probably this. Biden is a weird guy in general, so I can chalk a lot of his actions up to that.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

"Poor kids are just as bright as white kids!"

I don't understand how this gaff even can be considered racist tbh. Like, even if we interpret the gaff as some secret window into his mind.

Like, poverty is a minority issue.

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COVxy posted...

I don't understand how this gaff even can be considered racist tbh. Like, even if we interpret the gaff as some secret window into his mind.

Like, poverty is a minority issue.

So you openly admit you are also racist

If you say so, lmao. Golly gee, i better keep my mouth shut before i get labeled a racist by a trump supporter.

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COVxy posted...

If you say so, lmao. Golly gee, i better keep my mouth shut before i get labeled a racist by a trump supporter.

If you think only minorities deal with poverty, i dont know what else to tell you bud.

ohiostate124 posted...

If you think only minorities deal with poverty, i dont know what else to tell you bud.

I definitely said that.

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Some of the shit he's said in the senate, the people he still speaks fondly of and worked with that were only 1 tiny deviation from literal slave owners, the crime bill, the Trumpian way he dismisses any criticism of this by saying you have to vote for him because he actually has the best record of all time, etc etc

Idk how you can say he's not maliciously racist, even if he doesn't understand that he is. Obama picking him as his racist white friend to balance the ticket doesn't make all of this ok. Being the only alternative to Trump doesn't make him not racist either. We're just picking the racist that'll likely do less harm because of the structures around him. That's Biden.

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COVxy posted...

I definitely said that.

Yes you did.

dunno if he's racist but he irradiates that creepy molesty uncle type of energy...

I think this article is a good way to think about Biden on race:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/opinion/biden-busing-integration.html

As a senator from Delaware, Biden understood himself as a staunch defender of Middle American interests.

But those interests were racialized, which is how a younger Biden could at once be a committed liberal and an ardent opponent of busing to desegregate his states public schools. As an article in The Washington Post last week demonstrated, Biden was at the forefront of opposition to busing in Delaware. The rhetoric he deployed in defense of his position channeled the visceral hostility of suburban (and urban) whites whose children were bused or whose schools took in bused children.
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Biden made a straightforward defense of white racial advantage aimed at those communities that viewed integration with suspicion and hostility. He articulated their anger. And while Biden tried to distance himself from outright demagogues like George Wallace, the former governor of Alabama and presidential candidate, his rhetoric was on the same wavelength.
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Bidens sensitivity to the fears and anxieties of his white constituents helps explain his positions on drugs and crime in the 1980s and 1990s. He was an ardent drug warrior and tough on crime Democrat who hoped to outflank the Republican Party on those issues, winning ground from worried white voters. One of my objectives, quite frankly, is to lock Willie Horton up in jail, he said in 1990 when he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

That line, which refers to a notorious political ad from the 1988 presidential election, gets to the heart of Bidens appeal in that era. He was working for voters who viewed cities and their denizens as carriers of crime and disorder who should be controlled if they couldnt be isolated. His central work on the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, like President Bill Clintons later support for welfare reform, was part of a larger effort to position the Democratic Party as both a defender of white middle-class interests and as a disciplinarian in clamping down on assumed black pathologies of criminality, promiscuity and dependency.
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For decades Biden gave liberal cover to white backlash. He wasnt an incidental opponent of busing; he was a leader who helped derail integration. He didnt just vote for punitive legislation on crime and drugs; he wrote it.

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ohiostate124 posted...

Yes you did.

No, I said it was a minority issue. Because it disproportionately affects minorities, due to an interaction between racist policy and our economic system across time. Not that it only affects minorities, just that it is a problem for minorities in particular.

But there's no reason to pretend to have this discussion with you. It's not like you are attempting to have a discussion.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

Because your qualifier is exactly the quality needed to be maliciously racist. He's ignorantly racist. Whereas Trump purposely discriminates and glorifies those who do. He genuinely believes white people to be superior to others.

Lol no he doesnt

Bullet_Wing posted...

Because your qualifier is exactly the quality needed to be maliciously racist. He's ignorantly racist. Whereas Trump purposely discriminates and glorifies those who do. He genuinely believes white people to be superior to others.

I thought about how that could be confusing, but no. And Biden to this day still glorifies his old friends that would've been slave owners if they were allowed.

What I mean is he's the type of dude to author the racist policy that intentionally attacked the black community but has the ego, the political sociopathy, and lost enough of his fast ball to be legitimately confused these days as to why people care about the racist things he's done when theres a cheeto in the white house.

You can't do the things he's done and still gloat about some of the friends he's kept without being maliciously racist to an extreme degree at some point.

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I don't know if Donnie thinks white people are better, I just know he didn't want black people renting his property, and told a Puerto Rican to go back to her country.

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He doesn't see African American people as subhuman like Trump does

Evening_Dragon posted...

He has no malicious intent against people based on race, if that's what you're asking. Doubt he would try to keep black people from moving into an apartment he owned, for example.

But yes, he obviously has some biases in there.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

This is a good way to put it. Biden is racist in an out of touch way. Trump is racist in a malicious, believes white people are superior way.

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Imagine hand waving the legislation Biden has written and company he kept as simply being out of touch. Oof.

Absolutely

He said a lot of racist things. But the "poor kids are just as smart as white kids" one is both racist and Moronic. As if he was saying that there is no poor white people.

EricDraven59 posted...

He said a lot of racist things. But the "poor kids are just as smart as white kids" one is both racist and Moronic. As if he was saying that there is no poor white people.

Trump literally worked his ass off to send 5 innocent people to prison based on the color of their skin

Sending people to prison isn't a metric isn't a metric that works out in Biden's favor.

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you should have asked if people thought trump was more racist etc..........?

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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...

Imagine hand waving the legislation Biden has written and company he kept as simply being out of touch. Oof.

Yeah, it requires some mental gymnastics to conclude that Joe Biden repeatedly, over a course of 30+ years, just completely accidentally gave consistent support to legislation which caused disproportionate harm to African Americans and people of color.

Oh, here's a doozy:
"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this."
-Joe Biden, 1977, on school integration

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-said-desegregation-would-create-a-racial-jungle-2019-7
This article talks a lot more about his opposition to busing, which also exposes how limited his thinking is
For example, he concern-trolls about the quality of majority-black schools, as though them being worse is an inherent law of reality and not something that could be fixed.

Over and beyond that, this guy loved openly-racist segregationists like James Eastland, Jesse Helms, and Strom Thurmond, though of course he wasn't alone in that.

JebronLames posted...

you should have asked if people thought trump was more racist etc..........?

surprisingly it's about the same. 70-30.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

He said it and then corrected himself immediately before anyone said anything. Lends credence to him being racist in an out of touch way rather than Trump's malicious way.

When you white knight a racist because he's not trump

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"He said it and then corrected himself immediatelyHe said it and then corrected himself immediately" you mean the part where he said "no i really mean it!"

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It's nice seeing Republicans pretend to care about racism for once

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"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this." - Joe Biden on busing and desegregation

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Yes

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ElatedVenusaur posted...

https://twitter.com/aturtlenamedbo1/status/1264570189506646017
"Our culture....it's not imported from some African nation, or some Asian nation. It's our English jurisprudential culture; our European culture..."
Sounds like he could be making a vid for PragerU there.

Yikes

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Instead of focusing on his comments look at the 90s crime bill
Actually had impact

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onedarksoul posted...

Instead of focusing on his comments look at the 90s crime bill
Actually had impact

didn't the african american community support the crime bill originally

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Doom_Art posted...

It's nice seeing Republicans pretend to care about racism for once

This

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